Dave Fleming
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And that answers a question we first looked at in 2011!!
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18 hours ago, viscount806x said:
Incidentally, WM167 the now grounded but recent flyer NF11/TT20 has the air intakes but unsure when it acquired them. I can’t see any other -20s with them fitted.
That's an interesting one, it certainly had them as early as 1976 (having been sold in 1975) - it might be an addition during her MOD(PE) service
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haha! I had the NF11 kit in front of me and didn't notice them!
Oh well, that solves that problem - get the NF14 kit and use the intakes from the HF11!
Thanks all!
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23 hours ago, 72modeler said:
Not much of an authority on Meatboxes, single or two-seat, but I do have some references that are considered to be pretty good- SAM Modelers Datafile 8 and Valiant Wings Airframe Allbum 15 on the Meteor. Both monographs mention that the NF13 was built as a tropical version with a cold air conditioning unit that had an intake on each side of the rear fuselage above the trailing edge at the wing root; both books also include a drawing that showed the intakes. There was nothing I could find in either reference, either in the text, photos, or drawings that showed air conditioning system intakes for the NF14.
That being said, I did see photos and a color profile of No. 60 Sq. NF14's that showed a small curved intake on top of the rear fuselage that might have been for an air air conditioning system. See the linked illustration below.
I am guessing that maybe all NF14's had an air conditioning system as standard equipment, and not just for tropical regions- perhaps a welcome feature in view of that big bubble canopy that really soaked up the sun, but I didn't see any evidence of intakes for it in any of the references I have on the Meteor. Maybe our resident RAF jet savante, John, alias @canberra kid, might be able to help you more than I.
I do have the SH NF14 kit, and I can get up to the hobby room/kit mausoleum tomorrow and check out what's on the sprues- I will report what I find here.
Mike
The curved intake on the upper rear fuselage of this profile might be for the air conditioning system.
https://www.deviantart.com/claveworks/art/Meteor-NF14-GB-60-Sqn-1-594977183
You can just see one of the small curved intakes behind the canopy in this NF 14 photo; I haven't seen any intakes under the fuselage in any of the photos I have seen. BTW, I checked my SH NF 14 kit, and on the D sprue, there are two small curved intakes, labeled part 27 that are shown to be mounted on the upper fuselage behind the canopy.
https://www.nationalcoldwarexhibition.org/research/collections/armstrong-whitworth-meteor-nf14/
I have NF 14 articles in two different Air Enthusiast Quarterlies, Airpower, three volumes of Scale Aircraft Modelling, and none of them showed any intakes except those on top of the rear fuselage; there was on e photo in AEQ 25 that showed two No, 60 Sq. NF14's in formation, but only the upper fuselage intakes were visible.
Didn't Haynes, Warpaint, and 4+ Publications do monographs on the Meteor? Maybe there is some mention or photographs of intakes on the lower fuselage.
The intakes sit below the cockpit just forward of the fuel tank. As noted, they were introduced in the NF13 and added to the NF14s that served in the Far East. You can see them on this shot of the NF13 in the IAF Museum. They are quite obvious on all the 60 Sqn 14s. Not too difficult to scratch build.
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1 hour ago, 72modeler said:
Were they above or below the fuselage, Selwyn? I guess that's why you see them mostly on No. 60 Sq. NF14's.
Mike
Underneath, directly under the cockpit
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13 hours ago, sloegin57 said:
No it doesn't Dave.
Both intakes are missing despite there being 60Sqdn markings on the decal sheet. The small intake on the roof of the rear fuselage is there (Part D27).
I've only just opened the 14 kit, I will have to open the others and see what else is wrong/missing.
Dennis
Thanks Dennis, I've got the NF11 and 12 kits, and couldn't see anything that could be them. need to see what the NF13 has...
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14 hours ago, Violet Club said:
Regarding Meteors, I have the two Dragon kits. They look nice at first sight, but are they accurate ?
I’ve never seen any adverse comment on them. (Other than the price of the original release!)
EDIT: Just remembered they got the elevators wrong. They should have a horn balance on the end, but Dragon modelled them inset, with the end of the tail plane fixed. Not a difficult correction!
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Does anyone know if the SH NF14 kit has the air conditioning intakes that were fitted under the fuselage of the 60 Squadron aircraft?
Had a look at the review, but they aren't apparent
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Best I've seen were a set that was produced by someone in IPMS Canada, I had a set years ago but not sure where they are now
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On 15/01/2022 at 17:09, Richard Humm said:
The AC-47 wasn't anything to do with Palitoy - Airfix modified the mould in 1974, seven years before Palitoy took over. It wasn't the only tooling Airfix modified permanently - the Hart to the Demon and three (or possibly four) of the modern car range to custom versions come to mind.
Ah, true, i must have been getting my ACs confused.
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Double entry!
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17 hours ago, The wooksta V2.0 said:
Very happy to see the Basset back, although the three I already have mean I may not get one. Hopefully the decal sheet is all new design, even if it's the same aircraft.
I believe it is a new sheet.
17 hours ago, MrB17 said:Question for the Airfix historians. Did the mould get permanently changed when they released the AC-47?
Yes, Palitoy did that with several kits. C-130 to AC-130 and Canberra to B-57B are another two that spring to mind.
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12 hours ago, RidgeRunner said:
I’d be hoping for the PR nose in the F.8 box so I can make a better attempt at my Ecuadorean build
Martin
I hope they do as none of the existing 1/72 PR noses are completely accurate - they miss out the 'flat' areas around the side looking camera ports
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16 hours ago, Matt W said:
I must admit, I always liked the Airfix 1/24 Harrier, I have built a couple including the Sea Harrier version. It seems to be good in outline though the riveting on the surface is a bit over the top. It looks good when built & I would be tempted again. It’s certainly a better shape than the re-released Revell 1/32 one which is a mix of Kestrel/Harrier prototype.
Revell one is pretty close to some of the P1127 (RAF) Development Batch aircraft.
The big Airfix one is pretty good, it has one or two strange features and in modern terms is really, really basic. (Like @Colin @ Freightdog Models I still have a Woolworths Harrier and Sea Harrier in the stash).
I'm presuming they won't include the GR3 frame in this release.
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17 hours ago, IT_Man said:
Does anyone know how long the Vintage Classics stay in the range? Or it just based on how well they sell/production runs?
They treat them as a limited edition, so presumably it's only one run
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2 hours ago, tonyot said:
Good isn`t it Mike,...... I thought about doing this as a whiffer some time ago,....... where would they have gone? Probably Italy to replace the Boston`s serving over there, as the 2 Group Boston units converted to Mitchell`s?
I always saw them in SEAC instead of the Mosquito
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There were relatively few US aircraft that didn’t get at least tested by the UK - the RAF even had an early Black Widow, albeit it retained it’s US markings
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1820 Squadron used the Helldiver
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Both were used by the RN. The Dauntless was only tested, but the Helldiver served with a squadron.
52 minutes ago, Spitfires Forever said:I was going to enter a query regarding this aircraft in RAF use but somebody beat me to it. I guess the RAF tried just about every aircraft the US produced at one time or another. What about the SBD and Sb2c Helldiver? That would be interesting.
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50 minutes ago, 72modeler said:
Wow- here's one I have never seen before...how about it, @tonyot, still got some Tamiya aluminum left?
Mike
https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/a-26/invader-i-kl692-43-22604/
I have a copy of that from the Douglas archives (before the Boeing take over) and another of the port side. That one only flew in the States before the British cancelled their order.
https://napoleon130.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/faf26.jpg
They went to the US Navy as JD-1s instead, and some were initially flown in their RAF markings and serials (e.g. KL702 was photographed over LA in May 1946)
None of the ones flown to the UK had RAF markings applied, although they did get UK serials.
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None of the renders show the all-glass canopy, although one of the colour options shows it. Hope they include both intake styles too
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10 hours ago, New Tool said:
Trying to upload the new Harrier boxart (last picture on Scalemates link above).
This might fail, I'm having difficulty posting images (from a web picture upload site).
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5 hours ago, k5054nz said:
Is anyone else surprised (apologies if already mentioned) that the Rotodyne isn't back despite Airfix showing a picture of the tooling on social media last year?
No, the very fact the tooling is/was still in the Uk suggests they are not intending re-releasing it at this time. The Airfix Head of Brand said as much on a YouTube channel broadcast a couple of weeks back
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7 hours ago, keefr22 said:
Which way round were the P-51, P-40, Gnat and Tiger Moth? 72nd first and ''upscaled''?
Ye, all four were done in 1/72 first - same for Defiant and Blenheim (and Spitfire XIX)
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2022 Airfix Vintage Classics
in The Rumourmonger
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If anyone saw Dale from Airfix on the Interesting Modelling Company broadcast a few weeks back, it was clear they regard Vintage Classics as a nostalgia thing, and he was also clear that they regard them as limited edition, one run product, even if they don't class them as such. He also indicated that some tooling is in India, and some in the UK and the ones in the UK are unlikely to be used in production anytime soon (including the Rotodyne)
Separate previous conversations with other Airfix staff have indicated that they have access to pretty much all the historic Airfix tooling, with only one or two missing (SS France and SAM2 being the two acknowledged) and a couple not economic to use (1/48th Buccaneer due to all the production difficulties with warping for example). I do wonder if they have things like the old Hurricane mk IV, Westland Whirlwind fighter, Fw190D and P-38J that were replaced in the 70s