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  1. 1. I was interested to see this thread revived. I meant to get involved in January but never got around to it. 2. Some years ago I did a good deal of research and writing on the RCAF Wapitis. The end result was a 40-page history with 60-plus photos which I prepared using Publisher software. I have this now which I can pass on in the shape of a compressed PDF. I feel that this may be of assistance to some people interested in the type because, even if they have no particular interest in the RCAF version, the considerable amount of detail available, particularly in the photos, might be of use. 3. At the age of 82, I am becoming increasingly keen on sharing the results of a half-century of research and photo collection. Therefore, if anybody would like to have the above history, just PM me with a email address, and I will get it off to them ASAP. Carl
  2. What a lovely model! It’s great to see an aircraft of this fascinating era modelled. To make a very long story short, until 1927 in Canada, Air Force aircraft carried G-CY**registrations and civil aircraft G-CA**. Carl
  3. Hi, Wm. B. I sent you an email with photos and a PDF on Saturday, to the address in your PM. I resent it this afternoon. I don't know if your equipment has devoured it or if it is still hurtling around in cyberspace. Try sending another PM with your email address and I will have another try. Carl
  4. Greetings! 1. To make a long story short, both of the Harvards in which you are interested are real aircraft but the depictions are quite inaccurate. 2. I have a b/w photo of AJ733 and a colour one with what may be this aircraft in the middle distance. They were sent me some time ago by a Czech friend and were taken by a Czech trainee. I am not certain whether it would be totally ethical to splatter them over the Internet, but my calloused sense of ethics would allow me to send them directly to you. 3. Incidentally, that Alberta coat of arms appears, as far as I can tell, to be a silhouette map of the province! 4. I have had a good photo of 2564 for three or four decades now, and also would willingly pass it on. 5. A few years ago I did a little photo essay on RCAF Camouflaged Harvards for the enjoyment of myself and a few of my friends. Far from comprehensive – 13 pages, 13 photos. Still, I don’t think anything else has been done on the subject although, of course, a fair number of potential additions have turned up in the meantime. 6. Should you (or anybody else) be interested, simply PM me and I will shoot them off in due course. Carl
  5. I have found this thread quite interesting and I would like to shed a small ray of light on one aspect of the history. The statement that the hinges on the Bolingbroke’s hatch are on the opposite side to that of the Blenheim is only partially correct. It only refers to the Bolingbroke IV rather than the Bolingbroke I’s of the first production run and the Blenheim. This alteration is one of the myriad changes, structural and otherwise, that differentiated the Bolingbroke IV from the I and are, all too frequently, lumped by many writers into the category of “American instrumentation.” For those who, like myself, are as interested in the “why” as well as the “what”, I quote an extract from one of the reports of the committee concerned with the upgrade which gives the justification for this modification. “14. The hinges on the rear hatch [Bolingbroke I & Blenheim ] are considered to be on the wrong side. There is no hand grip when the hatch is open and consequently the frame is used as a grip. If the person inside closes the hatch when a person is climbing aboard, his hand would be seriously crushed.” Carl
  6. Hi, Jerry; There was one sheet of drawings in the pocket, which when unfolded measured 18" by 24" and printed on both sides. We were highly pleased by these drawings, drawn by the incomparable George Hopp. We were fortunately enough to obtain original Consolidated drawings, and, in addition, George and a team of helpers measured measured every inch of the Liberator in the National Capital Aviation Museum. This gave us accurate drawings of the Ford-built Liberators, which had an entirely different panel structure. Were there actual drawings in the pocket of your book? Carl
  7. Hi, Fuad: What a magnificent piece of work! It always warms my heart to see a model of a WW II RCAF aircraft, particularly one from a HWE (Home War Establishment) unit and such an excellent replica makes it even more satisfying. May I be permitted a couple of comments? Certainly, not relating to the model but to the caption. You have it as being with 167 (Comm) Squadron, 1944. In fact it appears as it did with 10 (BR) Squadron, 1940 – April 1942. The squadron codes were changed to JK in that month and eliminated in November 1942. Also it is noted as being a MK. I. The RCAF Digbys were never allotted Mark numbers. RCAF policy was not to allot Mark numbers to the initial models of aircraft acquired unless, of course, they were obtained having already been allotted these numbers by other forces e.g. the RAF. For another example, the RCAF Catalinas retained their previous RAFMark numbers but the far more numerous RCAF Cansos and Canso A’s never had Marks. Thanks again for displaying such a delightful model. Carl
  8. Hi, 825: 1. Thanks for your kind remarks. 2. You mentioned RCAF Sharks going to Trinidad and I am sure you will not take it amiss if I venture to correct this long-standing myth . 3. My impression is that way back in the cretinaceous age – at least 60 years back – somebody noticed that five RCAF Sharks had, at the end of their careers, being transferred to the Royal Navy as free issue. He/she immediately leapt to the conclusion that they had gone to Trinidad although (I believe) that establishment had just ceased to use Sharks. Since then, this assumption has pretty well been cast in concrete despite abundant evidence to the contrary. 4. In fact these Sharks – one II and four III Can’s were transferred to the RN for use in deck and hangar handling training on five RN escort carriers that were completing on the US North Pacific Coast. Somewhere on their passage to the UK (never anywhere near Trinidad) before their deck cargo or operational aircraft were taken on board the Sharks were ditched over the side. 5. I have some excellent photos of the Shark on HMS Puncher and a few years back there was a series of photos somewhere on the Internet showing the Shark on HMS Thane, including a couple showing it being given the deep six. Carl
  9. 1. I have not contributed to this thread because I really have very little to say. 2. Judging by my own not-particularly-exhaustive investigation, it seems extremely probable, however, that all of the official CCF Hurricane production photos which exist in various institutions across Canada and which have been referred to by various contributors to the thread are all reproduced from hard-copy images which seem to have been fairly widely distributed. Therefore, finding the precise point in time on the production line will be fortuitous. Nevertheless, stranger things have happened! 3. One institution that does not appear to have been mentioned is the Archives of Ontario. This institution does have a collection of CCF official photos. There are not a great number of Hurricane photos but there are quite a few showing details of production. Fortunately, their index photos can be downloaded at a comparatively usable resolution. 4. The photo of the production line – the one showing AF984 in the foreground – shows in the original print a WRF negative number. This indicates that it is a National Film Board image from a series of about 5000 or so produced for the Wartime Information Board covering all aspects of Canadian war production. The negatives for this series are held by Library and Archives Canada. The images are theoretically available on a fairly unwieldy online finding aid. Indeed, the whole Archives online indexing has produced a deafening volume of complaints! And, of course, as I have already remarked somewhere, the actual physical archives is locked down tighter than the proverbial. 5. Good hunting, Geoffrey! Carl
  10. 1. In the interests of accuracy, this aircraft is Saro London K6525 of 240 Squadron and the encounter took place on 19 December 1939. 2. This photo and a reasonably full account of the incident is found on pages 143-44 of Fledgling Eagles, Christopher Shores et al., Grub Street, 1991. Carl
  11. I really admired Tony’s magnificent miniature Mohawk when it was first posted. I am interested to see renewed interest in the topic. As far as references are concerned, back in 1985 my little publishing company, Canada’s Wings, published a book by my friend Gerry Beauchamp entitled Mohawks over Burma. It had many photos and drawings as well as a lot of details and reminiscences of its operational career. Midland Publications in the UK asked for a piece of the action so we ran off another 1000 copies under their imprimatur and I believe they did quite well with it. Both editions are long out of print but I am immodest enough to say that if one could be tracked down, it would be an excellent reference for the modeller. Carl
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    Saintly Fiat

    I am pleased that my Saintly Fiat post via Chris has interested so many. I was also interested in Hornet133’s remark on DH Clarke’s service with 260/250 Squadron rather than 450. While I have little interest in the man except for his adoption of the Saint emblem, because my assumption of 450 was based on recollection and, as an “octogeranium”, I am always on the lookout for senile memory deterioration, I was near-miraculously able to locate and disinter my copy of his book What were they like to fly? [Ian Allen, 1964] and attempt to either confirm or demolish this recollection. On his remarks concerning his Kittyhawk time [pp 77-83] he continually refers to 450 Squadron and remarks on his being “the only Pommy in an otherwise all-Australian squadron – 450 RAAF”. Thus, you can understand my assumption that his unit was 450. In the same book, the chapter concerning his flight in the Fiat G-50 [pp 87-89] he identifies the location as Castel Benito and the date as January 23/24 1943. If this date is accurate, the aircraft would have been in Allied hands for quite long enough to have the additional embellishments added to the paint scheme. Carl
  13. Thanks, Chris for doing that posting for me. This is in response to Graham’s query “Why?” anent the black camouflage. At that period, some, at least, considered the best nighttime camouflage to be overall black and the great majority of 415’s operations were nocturnal. For example, during the E-boat hunts, the Albacores would be vectored onto the target by coastal radar until they could pick it up on their own ASV sets, follow up to visual contact and then, following up the wake, attack from astern, usually using shallow-setting depth charges which were deemed to be more effective on such small craft than taking a chance on hitting it with a conventional bomb. Certainly, it made sense to indulge in night operations when this is when most German shipping made passage and when one considers how hideously vulnerable the Albacores would be to fighters and particularly flak at that stage of the war, so that some kind of night camouflage was logical. Carl.
  14. What a fantabulous model! Ionospherically above the highest standard I ever reached during my model making days way back in the cretinaceous era. I would not know if it would be possible at this stage of the game, but, if so, the substitution of red/blue B-type roundels for the current A-type would enhance the accuracy. I am delighted to see such an excellent model of the grotesque and ghastly Goblin which is, to my mind, the most useless and certainly the most reluctantly acquired RCAF aircraft. A brief historical summary is that CC & F had 16 left on their hands that could not be delivered to Republican Spain and spent the next year and a half trying to flog them to various potential buyers. The RCAF, by an enormous amount of bobbing, ducking and weaving managed to avoid being saddled with them until the summer of 1940 when political pressure compelled their purchase. Even then, having been parked outside for a couple of years, it took the better part of another year to make them fit for operational service. They only served with 118 (F) for a few months until replaced by Kittyhawks. Nobody seems to have taken them seriously except, possibly, the CC & F directors who probably laughed all the way to the bank! The squadron personnel dubbed the type “the Pregnant Frog”, an obvious reference to its markedly gravid contours. I did a tremendous amount of research on this story four decades ago and I would love to share it with anybody interested. Carl
  15. V Line: Thanks for the informative post. May I say how impressed I was by the fact that you both recognized the marking and were able to recall where you encountered it! I do not know why I did not pick up on the fact that is a meticulously accurate rendition of the Pontiac trademark that was used 1930-59. It seems a nearfetched assumption that it was the personal marking of a pilot who flew Gladiators in Greece and Tomahawks in North Africa and who was probably of North American antecedents as it was unlikely that others would be familiar with that logo. I checked the provenance of the first three photos and find that the original prints were borrowed from LL Bartley in 1980. I believe that he is the pilot in the second photo. He was a CAN/RAF pilot but, as he became a POW while escaping from Crete in May 1941, he would not have flown Tomahawks. As far as LG Schwab is concerned, he is a stronger contender, but as he was posted away from 112 at the end of June 1941 and the 112 site says that the film clips were taken in October 1941, that appears to rule him out, unless, of course, his aircraft remained and retained his markings. Who knows? It would be great to get serials for either or both the Gladiator or Tomahawk as they would make a superb pair of profiles or models, particularly as they might depict the aircraft of a Canadian Ace. Should you or anybody else ever come up with something I would be tremendously grateful to hear of it. While my primary interest in Tomahawks is in regard to those which served with the RCAF squadrons in the UK 1941-43, any of this type with a Canadian connection is of interest. Carl
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