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  1. "Dunkelgelb nach Muster" did not have any RAL code (no RAL card). "nach Muster" means "according to sample" and the Wehrmacht produced (or ordered to produce) these samples (not the RAL institute).
  2. But I'd like to add that every measurement and every production has a tolerance (even in Germany or "especially in Germany!") and the art is to apply a reasonable tolerance. Compute 12 digits, measure with a laser interferometer, mark with a piece of chalk and cut with an axe. In watchmaking 1/10th of a milimeter makes a big difference, for the size of a Tiger's armor plate (cut with a cutting torch) even 1mm is more precise than needed (or achievable with a cutting torch). So with paint you have a reference card (and more than one was produced) and judge that in a certain light (and regular bulbs give a different light than the sun (with a vyraing amount of clouds) and light bulbs age within minutes (if you can measure precise enough!). LEDs were not invented yet in 1945 (AFAIK). (Metamerism) Paint is composed of pigment (maybe Ochre), binder (resin, lin seed oil, ...), and filler (and some other more or less magic additives). Sometimes the binder yellows, sometimes pigments fade, sometimes paint chalks, and so on. The pigment itself needs to come from "somewhere" or has to be produced "somehow". In case of ochre/ocher/Ocker it gets dug from the "dirt" in special places. Still ochre is not "uniform" check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sentier_des_ocres_1.JPG All in all I think there was an intended standard and it did include some tolerance in the first place. Some variation in the color is OK without violating the purpose of the paint. We are talking about camo not about a luxury street car. Wether the specification, the "Muster" for the Dunkelgelb was changed "on purpose" (saving material, improving camo effect, cost cutting, adaption to a differen ochre-mine, ...) or by accident or there was no change, just different aging of samples? Who knows until somebody digs up offcial documents / mails between Wehrmacht and RAL Institut? Based upon given tolerance in manufacture the paint was applied over different primer (red brown, grey, ...) by different painters and the vehicles saw different theaters and received different treatment (care, use (dirt!), abuse) and aged in different ways. So to me it would look "suspicious" if all model tanks in the shelf were painted in the same paint, taken from one 20 gallon tank of paint for a modeller's life time supply. Yes, brand new equipment should look alike and there has to be very small tolerance and the Dunkelgelb has to be according to the Muster for every piece of equipment. So there is a starting point (and maybe even different starting points according to the time of production or the regional paint supplier).
  3. The milk dealer purchased a used grey Tempo Dreirad and took it to a paint shop for a new exterior paint job. The rubber pads on the pedals wore off fast (and so on and so on). Does it look good the way you did it? _ yes / _ no (I think it does, so dont let people like me derail your build!)
  4. It doesn't help or do any good, but I thought I'll drop these links anyway: https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/chronologie/Wie-und-wo-damals-bei-Tempo-gearbeitet-wird,tempowerk212.html https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/chronologie/Tempo-Auf-drei-Raedern-durch-die-Zeit-des-Aufbruchs,tempowerk100.html#tempowerk104 https://www.ndr.de/geschichte/chronologie/Tempo-und-seine-Fahrzeuge,tempowerk104.html NDR is Northern German Broadcasting and in a way it is connected to British history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norddeutscher_Rundfunk
  5. A joke isn't funny anymore once somebody tried to explain it, I'll try it anyway: Part 1: Hooker was an artist, but not eveybody thinks all hookers [more American than British English] are artists, so who knows what an internet search for "hooker(s) green" may come up with? https://www.oldholland.com/de/academy/prof-theo-de-beer-about-hookers-green/?cn-reloaded=1 Part 2: In the aircraft section RLM 83 is subject to discussion (along with RLM 81 and 82) and some believe it was dark green, others believe it was dark blue and tempestfan will have observed some of us (includig me) having participated in these discussions (one way or the other). Ask four experts, get five answers.
  6. Is it legal to build a "grey" Draken before having built the NMF and a "green" version? (I'm asking for a friend)
  7. In thoses days you could install the ETCs and open the holes for the gun and with a little luck you could "stick" the gun over the bombs and it would stay in place. Nowadays you cold install small magnets to have this option without opening the holes (but you'd still have to ignore the "wrong markings" in one of the configurations). And you could install the bombs with a sticky glue (Pattex) that would not "weld" them to the ETCs so you could actually drop them on A00717V ... emulating engine noise and everything else. Nowadays you have to ponder over the right color and markings of the bombs and wether the fuselage is 1mm too short or too long. And it is "impossible" to drop 1/72nd bombs on 1/76th Russian Infantry. Did I say that out loud?
  8. To me "late war RLM paint" is a "multi layer problem". We have regulation (LDv.521/1), observation (looking at pics contradicting the LDv and each other) and denomination (naming the colors) and representation (paint makers' opinion of how it should look or they can get away with). In theory there was some regulation regarding the camo of the He 162. And it seems there is kind of a consensus in the plastic model world regarding the basic scheme. (like this https://www.plasticplanet.cz/out/pictures/wysiwigpro/09 camo 1.png ) In real life there were two old dark green paints in use (70, 71) and later "some" new green(ish) colors appeared, and there were probably a medium, vivid green ("Hellgrün"), a really dark green (Dunkelgrün) and a kinda olive paint often referred to as "Braunviolett". And there is a mismatch with three colors and two available names for them (81 and 82). Any discussion about RLM 83 (and its blue/green nature or use in the Mediterranianm, Baltic, Black Sea, Norway and the well known secret base in Antarctica or confusion with other blue paint(s)) is nice and a good opportunity for a fight, but it would probably not help you to build a more authentic model. Your judgement and decision should circle around "Hellgrün", "late war Dunkelgrün", and "Braunviolett" and the pattern. RLM 65? Are you sure?
  9. Lovely indeed! What size are those BBS alloys suppoesd to represent? (I'm asking for a friend in need of 7x15 BBS Kreuzspeichenfelgen for his e30 BMW 325i in 1/24)
  10. Just look at all those couplings! The anteater seems to have some kind of Mittelpufferkupplung / Rangierkupplung / Straßenbahnkupplung + a trailer hitch on the front end as well. Today the Straßenbahn at Gaggenau is using the Scharfenbergkupplung. The other two show a regular rail coupling (hook) and all seem to have some kind of trailer hitch, shown way better than the trailer hitches on the rear end in other pictures. The "if I had a hammer" pic shows a larger more complex "trailer hitch", just like a Rockinger (in one pic with a WH license plate, so probably taken before 1946). So maybe this pic even does some good for the ongoing build without any rail conversion derailing. Just one more attempt to derail this: At Gaggenau (home of the anteater) is the oldest continuously used car factory of the world. Unfortunately I have not found the church on google earth yet. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz-Werk_Gaggenau or straight from the horse's mouth: "The Mercedes-Benz Gaggenau plant was founded as "Firma Bergmann’s Industriewerke in Gaggenau" in 1894, making it the oldest automotive plant in the world." https://www.daimlertruck.com/en/sustainability/environmental-statements/gaggenau
  11. The white writing on the windscreen to be read from the inside(!): "Höchstgeschwindigkeit 40 km" [probably, there are some jpg-artefacts] ("Maximum speed 40 km/h") Would make a nice detail for your build, so maybe a good excuse to prolong/derail the project via a rail conversion, just look at that nice horn on the roof!
  12. My more or less educated guess leads to a black underside not light blue for almost any operational German bomber in those days and especially for this type of mission. RLM 76 blotches on the top side and worn aircraft may be even more acurate, simple 70/71 (and 65 undersides) and an unweathered plane may show the concept better. Who knwos?
  13. It's a stain of some kind (grease or oil or water or resin seeping through). In case you build the wreck, try to mimic a glossy spot on the matt schwarzgrün paint, in case you build the plane in operational state: Do ignore the stain as much as you can.
  14. Will it turn up if I'm limited to "safe search" at work? (I'm asking for a friend)
  15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eagle_Has_Landed_(film)
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