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Very interesting discussion, but it IMO lacks a starting point, which is just where and when was RLM 83 "blue" ordered to be used. I have read (eg here https://penelope.uchicago.edu/~grout/encyclopaedia_romana/luftwaffe/colors.html ) the RLM 83 had a relatively short life and was not used in the late war 81/82 schemes. My impression has been, although uncertain, that RLM 83 could/was substituted for 81 or82 in late war schemes. It seems this wasn't the case ? Is the conclusion that RLM 83 was a maritime colour used in the med (I have also come across a suggestion of a Blue 83 used in Norway in 44/45 for anti-shipping aircraft somewhere) and thats's it. Personally, I'm feel happy that the standard late war 76/81/82 schemes varied in colour due to paint batch composition or application (probably with the thing agent) differences combined with weathering. Thanks Nick
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HMS Exeter, Battle of the River Plate, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to Marco1965's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
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HMS Calcutta, C Class Cruiser 1941 - 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Ready for Inspection - Maritime
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HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
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HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Rob thanks. It certainly makes a lot of sense on the smaller vessels. I don't know if you're interested in (and therefore seen) Mike Starmer's self published series on UK Army vehicle camo schemes in WW2. Its surprising, but early war UK camo schemes were given a lot of thought and counter shading was frequently used as well (although there aren't a lot of photos which survived). I suspect if it was included as Admiralty standard practice (or in the painting contract for each vessel) its likely to be very common early on in schemes during in the war. Perhaps less so where commercial yards were involved. -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Tom Thanks, but would you be able to see that from any distance ? Nick -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Thanks Ned When I read this statement : Underside - Pom-Pom decks, other gun platforms and other horizontal projections. What I mean to understand ? I assume it means that in the shadowed area (below the Pom-Pom mounting deck), all of the vertical surfaces are painted white (instead of 507c say) all the way down to the deck to lighten the shadowed area in a sit on view. Is my understanding correct or am I reading too much into this. Cheers Nick -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Rob When I read the painting guidance I often see the use of white counter shading described. I understand that in reference to the underside of the main gun barrels, but what about elsewhere ? Thanks Nick -
1/350 HMS Kent County Class Cruiser 1941
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Two fantastic builds. The picture of Berwick at anchor, converted to black and white and an old camera, could easily look like a real wartime picture. -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Thanks Rob I know I lack the skills set to even attempt something as straight forward as this conversion unaided. I hope someone does do a resin "correction" set though as I'd rather like to build a near WW1 version. You can get a 6 inch Mark XII single mount sold by Shapeways from Micro Master (7 for £13), which solves the artillery problem. I'll continue to keep my eyes open in hope. Cheers Nick -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Yes I did miss out the very obvious one. Seriously though, that list doesn't sound like a major corrections project. Any have any resin I can buy ? -
HMS Calcutta - C Class Cruiser, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to robgizlu's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
This probably isn't the right place to ask this (but I cant see any better or wiser modellers to ask), but how difficult might it be to convert this model back to the original 1920 late C class ship ? Does the sprue layout suggests Trumpeter will issue an early version as well ? From what I can see, the main difference is the torpedo tubes, the aft mast and the aft superstructure. -
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HMS Exeter, Battle of the River Plate, Trumpeter 1/350
Nick B replied to Marco1965's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Unless someone knows better....and post sit here- 130 replies
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Nick B replied to Marco1965's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
Tom. These deck boats do seem to rest on a metal frame. There is an image here, from a model build shows it well (http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/ca/hms/Exeter-350-dh/index.htm ). You would certainly see the deck below through it. I'd certainly go with that idea, except the light coloured contrast lines (there are 8 or 9) seem to imply that the large frame has quite a number of thinner "cables" or rope (?) joining the frame together. That might make sense to help the deck boat crew get on board.- 130 replies
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Nick B replied to Marco1965's topic in Work in Progress - Maritime
I suppose we could be seeing a metal support frame for the Canvas to be tied down to.- 130 replies
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