Nobby Clarke

Hi Jun, I have been looking for BS 381C:1964 for some time now. Can you provide the remaining pages or let me know how to obtain the spec? Regards, Nobby

Does anybody have comments on the accuracy of AMMO by Mig Jiménez colours for WWII RAF aircraft? I'm fed up with buying new paint at my LMS and discovering noticeable differences when compared with the colour swatches in RAF Museum reference book British Aviation Colours of World War Two. AMMO recommends the following: Dark Earth..........................A.MIG-070 Medium Brown Dark Green.........................A.MIG-915 Dark Green Sky.....................................A.MIG-243 Sky Type S Interior Grey Green............A.MIG-219 Interior Green Ocean Grey......

I'm still looking for a good match for WWII MAP/RAF Azure Blue in water-based acrylic model paint. I recently sprayed a swatch of Mission Models MMP-092 Azure Blue RAF FS 35231. Unfortunately it's an excellent match to FS35231 but a poor match for WWII RAF Azure Blue - see below. There are other water-based acrylics not mentioned previously in this thread from Hataka, AK Interactive, AMMO by Mig, and maybe others. Does anybody have comparisons of these colours to the RAF Museum reference book? Please post your comments in this thread. Nobby

I am interested to receive your feedback and opinions on the accuracy of model paints marketed as matches for WWII RAF and FAA colours. This is a huge field of products, but I use exclusively water-based acrylics due to their low toxicity (good for indoor spraying) and easy clean up. Brands in this category include: Vallejo (Model Color, Model Air, Panzer Aces), Mission Models, LifeColor, AMMO by MiG, Citadel, AK Interactive, Mr Hobby Acrysion, and more I’m sure. For my colour standard I use the colour card in the back of the 1976 RAF Museum book “British Aviation Colours of World War Two”.

Rats! I was rather hoping you had a copy of the original MAP wartime standards.

I have never seen a copy of the original MAP wartime standards (only photos on sites like this). However, I do have a copy of the 1976 RAF Museum book titled ‘British Aviation Colours of World War Two”. Is this what you are referring to?

From reading threads on this site I learned that Dark Earth was initially numbered 450 (in 1964 edition), then renumbered to 350 (in 1980 edition). Similarly, Dark Green was initially 641 (in 1964 edition) and subsequently renumbered to 241 (1980 edition). As I understand it, the reason for this was to align the numbering with the defined colour grouping: 300 series for browns and 200 series for greens. I also read that the colour standards remained the same, just the numbering was changed. However, when I look at sites like www.e-paint.co.uk the digital data associated with 450 i

First let me say that I know that BS381c was not used as a colour standard for the paints used on RAF aircraft during WWII. The war time MAP maintained their own specs for colours with associated standards. However, Dark Earth and Dark Green were added to BS381c in 1964 if I'm not mistaken. From reading threads on this site I learned that Dark Earth was initially numbered 450 (in 1964 edition), then renumbered to 350 (in 1980 edition). Similarly, Dark Green was initially 641 (in 1964 edition) and subsequently renumbered to 241 (1980 edition). The reason for this was to align the nu

That's very interesting. I have watched this website add more content on WWII colors over the past twelve months. It's well worth the read. Nice work @Phantome.

When are you going to let us all know the purpose of this post?

Page 89 of Dr. Alfred Price's Osprey Aircraft of the Aces No. 5 book "Late Mark Spitfire Aces 1942-45" from 1995 describes Spitfire F VII MD188/PB of Wg Cdr Peter Brother, OC Culmhead Wing, June 1944 as "Wearing a two-letter code as well as the standard RAF high altitude fighter scheme of period - PR Blue upper surfaces and Deep Sky, Type S undersurfaces - this aircraft was one of the last F VIIs built." I remain confused since the Air Ministry specified Day Fighters (high flying) to be camouflaged with MSG upper surfaces and PR blue under surfaces in Air Publication 2656A Vol 1 Sect 6 is

Rolls-Royce, Thanks for your suggestion. I contacted John Miller at Model Paint Solutions https://modelpaintsol.com and he kindly recommended MMM-009 RAF High Speed Silver. Nobby

I am modeling a pair of early WWII / immediate pre-war Hurricane and Spitfires. I am using Mission Models water-based acrylics almost exclusively. They have a new metallic colour, MMM-009 RAF High Speed Silver and also several other aluminium shades, notably MMM-003 Aluminium. Does anyone have any advice or experience with which Mission Models metallic would be most appropriate for the aluminum undersurface colour? Mission Models choices are: MMM-003 Aluminum MMM-005 Duraluminum MMM-006 Silver MMM-007 Dark Aluminum MMM-008 White Aluminum MMM-009 RAF High Speed S

Olivier, Could you tell me how this chart was created? How were you able to render the exact colours from the RAF Museum book and Urban's Colour Reference Charts? Nobby

Thanks BS_w, These are great photos. Do you know where they came from? I agree that the area where the oleos retract are a lighter colour in the B&W photos, but it’s difficult to know what colour this really is - it could be a primer or could be the undersurface colour. Nobby