Our Ned
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Depending on the level of accuracy you're after, you may wish to consider replacing the motor boats provided in the Trumpeter Eskimo kit (parts E8 and B14 - which are copies of German ones!) with others which more resemble the Royal Navy boats she actually carried.
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RN destroyer flotillas of the period were divided into divisions, and the senior ship (the one with the most senior commanding officer) of the division was the division leader, colloquially known as the half-leader. She would wear a thin horizontal band around the forefunnel (if a two-funnelled ship) or a short vertical stripe below the flotilla band(s) (if a one-funnelled ship).
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Acasta has the half-leader's band around the forefunnel (both she and Eclipse have the H-shaped top to the galley exhaust protruding above the funnel). The railings around Eclipse's searchlight platform (with canvas laced to them in this photo) were vertical; Acasta's were splayed outwards, like those in the photo posted earlier.
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I believe the photo shows HMS Acasta. The camouflage pattern is a close (but not exact) match for that shown here: http://www.glarac.co.uk/node/2276; she is wearing a divisional, leader's band ("half-leader") on the forefunnel, and the railing around the searchlight platform between the torpedo tubes matches that on the "A" class, which differed from that on the "E" class ships.
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The Ship Strutter's cabane struts weren't as broad as the interplane ones, and are less clear in photos (eg here). There is a clearer version of the Repilse photo in Dick Cronin Royal Navy Shipboard Aircraft Developments, 1912-31 (Air Britain, 1990) in which I THINK I can make out the sloping struts.
That book also notes aircraft allocated to Repulse; is shows the following: Pup, Camel, Ship Strutter and Panther.
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I think the aircraft on "B" turret is a 1½ Strutter (both wings have the same dihedral - and it looks too large for a Pup or Camel). Difficult to tell, but the one on "Y" turret appear to have no dihedral on the upper wings, but dihedral on the lower ones - so looks like it's a Camel.
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Yes. See here (note other reference say the flying-off platform (not usually called a flight deck because landing on was impossible) was fitted in 1917): https://www.bridgemanimages.com/en/noartistknown/british-navy-aircraft-carriers-stern-view-of-hms-repulse-showing-sopwith-pup-on-a-turret-1916-cuig/photograph/asset/5446779
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Renown wore the camouflage scheme shown from the end of her 1943 refit (which took place from February until June). Prior to the refit she wore an Admiralty First Disruptive scheme (https://www.naval-encyclopedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Renown-camo-BW.jpg).
Modifications during the refit included removal of catapult and aircraft equipment, revision of boat stowage (many were moved to the former catapult deck), addition of light AA weapons (thirteen twin and thee single 20mm Oerlikons) and repositioning of some other light AA.
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Beefy queried the way the anchor cables appeared in a photo(s) found online. If referring, for example, to the heading photo on this page: https://www.world-war.co.uk/York/york.php , then what is asked about is the setup when a ship is moored to two anchors, to reduce the swinging room needed in a crowded anchorage. EJFoeth has discussed this in a post of 1 January 2020 (https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235057680-hms-hood/page/3/#comment-3539829 - scroll down).
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Study of John Roberts Destroyer Cossack: Detailed in Original Builders' Plans (Barnsley: Seaforth Publishing, 2020) shows the area to port of the pelorus was the secondary Asdic control position, located in a recess projecting into the upper part of the wheelhouse. The view-plot trunk to port of the binnacle did indeed allow those on the bridge to observe the ARL Mk VA plotting table in the plotting office below.
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HMS Hereward had a bridge with a raised, angled, section containing the wheelhouse, so that the helmsman could see ahead over the top of the experimental twin 4.7" mounting fitted in "B" position; Hero was built by the same shipyard, and, presumably to ease the drawing/design work there, had a similar bridge. Hereward reverted to the standard armament of two single 4.7" guns for'd in 1937, but both ships retained the new bridge shape thereafter.
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To be honest, I'm not sure! Away from references at the moment, but, if you're referring to the large dial to the right of the chap with the white collar, it may well be a bearing indicator for the Asdic transducer. The narrow pyramid with the short cylinder on top, behind that chap, may be a viewing port to the a/s plot in the compartment below, which I think was the chartroom.
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No definite evidence that I know of, but she was based in Gibraltar at that time, and (I think) was in the 13th Destroyer Flotilla, whose funnel bands were white over two red.
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No. The Fulmar's wings folded aft, with a vertical pivot towards the rear of the wing root (after a section including the flap had been folded 180 degrees upwards to lie on top of the wing surface). The Firefly's wings folded on a pivot set at an angle further out on the wing centre section, so that the folded with lay alongside the fuselage in a nearly-vertical position. See, for example, https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/7536084 and http://plane-crazy.k-hosting.co.uk/Aircraft/WW2-Planes/Firefly/fairey_firefly.htm
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Oops - my mistake
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The photo posted by junglierating shows the hangars looking forward from the after lift well.
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Bootneck's photos appear to show the model of Fencer in the Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton, also shown in the photo at the link posted by Tincan Warspite on 2 January at 2053.
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The drawings of Euryalus in Alan Raven & John Roberts British Cruisers of World War Two (Arms & Armour Press, 1980) are a pretty good match for those of Naiad in the Profile Morskie publication, except that the deckhouse atop the after shelter deck is wider, and the platforms for the quadruple 0.5" guns have more rounded corners. Note that Naiad carried AW.RDF Tyoe 279 at the mastheads, but no other RDF, whilst Euryalus had SR.RDF Type 284 on the LA.DCT and AR.RDF Type 285 on the after HA.DCT (but not the for'd one), as well as Type 279. Good luck with replicating the multi-coloured camouflage scheme!
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3.51 HMS Redoubt
3.53 HMS Racehorse
11.54 HMS Royal Sovereign (?)
12.06 HMS Ramillies
14.40 HMS Revenge
18.38 HMAS Nizam
19.04 HMS Sufgfolk
22.05 HMS Sussex23.55 HMS Renown
24.11 HMS Illustrious (?)
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I think the box covers a deck clench, to hold a link to the end of the sheet anchor's cable (although no such link is visible in the photo). The sheet anchor was there (a) in case the bower anchor was lost or slipped, or (b) in case an anchor was needed when the starboard cable had been broken to moor ship. The sheet anchor had no cable-holder; the short length of anchor cable would have been shackled to the main cable (or what was left of it after it had been slipped/broken, and hauled or veered using the starboard cable-holder.
Lots of nautical terminology there:
Cable - the "anchor chain"
Cable-holder - the round thing which the cable went round between hawsepipe and navel pipe, used to haul in or veer the cable
Navel pipe - the fitting in the deck through which the cable goes down through the deck to the cable locker
Bower anchor - main anchor
Moor ship - using the bower anchors' cables to secure the ship to a bouy
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HMS Wellington Camouflage Colours
in Maritime WWII
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Another photo of Wellington in this scheme is on the IWM webvsite at https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205121648. The first two photos in the original post are versions of the same photo with different processing - https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205151088. A port bow view, taken at Moville in 1942, can be found in Arnold Hague Sloops 1926-1946 (Kendal: World Ship Society, 1993).
In 1942 she did indeed carry a single 20mm Oerlikon in each bridge wing, as well as two quadruple 0.5" mountings; one on each side just abaft the break of the foc's'le.