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  1. Thanks Ant - I realised that after I had posted, and deleted the text of the post!
  2. https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_King_George_V_(41)#/media/Файл:King_George_V_class_battleship_1945.jpg
  3. Covered missiles on a Seacat launcher is perfectly OK - the cover was left on if the weather was bad - the missile would break through the covering if fired.
  4. The inboard Type 45 is D34 - HMS Diamond.
  5. I think P9767 was coded C8B, although how (and how much of) this was worn on the airframe isn't clear. Her second aircraft was P4192 (coded C8A). That said, one website has the codes the other way around (ie P9767 was C8A).
  6. Thanks Dennis - note that the pod in the first photo is a TVAT (TV Acquisition (or Airborne) Trainer) pod, not a data link pod, as used for training sorties. The "business end" of the pod contains a TV camera, so that the observer can practice directing the missile as the carrier aircraft continues towards/over the target. The datalink pod had the business end pointing aft, as, once the missile(s) left the aircraft, the Buccaneer would bravely run away, and so the pod faced aft in order to "link with" the missile(s) as the aircraft left the scene.
  7. The data link pod was for controlling the TV-guided Martel (AJ.168) - which had a rounded nose. The radar-homing variant (AS.37) was autonomous and did not require use of the data link pod. AS.37 had a pointed nose as seen in this painting. Edit: Oops - got the designations back to front - AS.37 was the TV-guided one, AJ.168 the radar-homing sort.
  8. I hate to point out a minor error in the otherwise very impressive reproduction of the rigging of Colombo's mainmast, but the following may be of interest. Each arm of the mainmast starfish carried an upright rectangular semi-directional array for Outfit FV1, a radar direction-finder (what would today be called ESM - electronic support measures). FV1's omni-directional antennas are the hourglass-shaped aerials on the spurs pointing forwards from the topmast (Part PE20). The stays for the topmast are attached to each starfish arm inboard of the FV1 arrays. This arrangement is just about discernable in the port quarter and starboard bow views posted above on 31 August.
  9. That'd be quite a challenge! Shorten the hull amidships. Reduce the rake of the stem, and reshape the foc's'le bulwark to match, add port anchor. Reduce size of flight deck and amend supporting structure. Lower hangar roof by one deck level. Amend funnel shape and add new Olympus exhausts to top. Omit 4.5" gun, remove supporting structure and replace with four Exocet launchers. Lower forward Seawolf launcher to shelter deck level. Omit Goalkeeper mounting and Harpoon launchers from superstructure. Replace Seawolf directors (Type 911 radar) with earlier version (Type 910). Sundry other aerial changes. Different boat outfit, davits etc.
  10. For British and Commonwealth ships, try Richard Osborne et al Armed Merchant Cruisers 1878-1945 (Windsor: World Ship Society 2007) ‐ lots of information and photos, but few plans (and no detailed ones).
  11. "... the picture in question." - this one perhaps: https://www.worldnavalships.com/ship_photo.php?ProdID=114736?
  12. As ever, the answer depends upon the level of accuracy required. The best would be the kit of HMS Cornwall - amongst the changes are: Cut down the quarterdeck by one deck level. Revise shape of 4" gundeck and boatdeck, to reposition twin 4" mountings and boat stowage. Replace upper part of bridge structure. Replace Main armament fire control director. Replace octuple 2pdr pompom mountings with quadruple mountings. Add Type 279 RDF (radar) antennae to fore and main topmasts. Different camouflage scheme. As usual, study of available photographs would be beneficial - also, if available, Alan Raven & John Roberts Man o' War Number 1, County Class Cruisers (Arms & Armour Press, 1978) (now long out of print) or Les Brown Shipcraft No 19 County Class Cruisers (Barnsley: Seaforth Publishing, 2011).
  13. First, Type 273 was fitted in the same location, and in a similar radome, as Type 271 - therefore ships carried was one or the other, not both. You asked about painting - I always paint decks and superstructre separately before assembly. Lastly, a copy of the photo you posted is in the Imperial War Museum collection (reference number A27322; apparently not available online), but study of a better copy shows that the pendant number is faintly visible, as is what looks like a Type 291 RDF aerial at the foremasthead. It was taken (according to a caption) on 15 February 1945 at Harwich (the same as the one on Page 39 in the Man 'o War book). The censor stamp was merely to say that the photograph could be published in the condition shown - it gives no indication as to whether the photograph had been censored or not.
  14. The "non-descript thingy" ahead of the bridge on the first photo posted of Talybont is a combination of the MF/DF aerial on its projecting spur and a couple of angled brackets stretching upwards and backwards from the short platform one deck above the foc's'le. (Edit - other photos of the ship in this camouflage scheme don't show these brackets.) The third twin 20mm Oerlikon mounting was on the quarterdeck - the drawing of Eskdale shows a single 20mm mounting in the same position. The photo of Talybont "at the end of the war" on Page 39 of the Man o' War book is held by the Imperial War Museum (although apparently a digital version is not available) and is captioned as being taken on 15 February 1945. It shows her still fitted with twin 20mm mountings (the starboard one and the one on the quarterdeck can be seen), but with a Type 273 RDF (radar) aft of the torpedo tubes; the Type 273 was probably not fitted until her damage repairs after the November 1944 collision (Edit - she had Type 271 RDF in October 1943 - my assumption that 273 was fitted the following year may be wrong). I suspect that the two single 40mm Bofors replaced the 20mm mountings in her Malta refit (mid/late 1945). If converting a Type 2 kit, the after superstructure would need to be moved aft, to clear the torpedo tubes, the funnel altered and the bridge modified.
  15. The rather blurry representation of the port whaler in the image of an IWM photo (https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205185308), when zoomed in, could be interpreted as a boat with canvas cover, dark hull and lighter (white?) underside. The underside of the launch abreast the after funnel is obscured, but it also appears to be covered.
  16. Certainly done in trials and training - for war, it would depend upon (a) system switch settings ("Salvo" or "Single-shot") and (b) computer assessment of the threat (and whether time allowed a "shoot look shoot" approach). See, for example, https://www.defencetalk.com/hms-chatham-successfully-test-fires-sea-wolf-missiles-11773/
  17. I hate to contradict ex-FAAWAFU, but GWS25 could fire two missiles in salvo at the same target - hence the two command link transmission dishes to the left of the main tracking aerial on the director. The launcher doors for the second missile would not open until the first missile was clear of the launcher to prevent damage to the missile from rocket efflux.
  18. 899 NAS had XW927, a "borrowed" RAF Harrier T4 (not T4N) in 1981 (LRMTS nose, short fin, RWR housings on fin and tailboom, still in 233 OCU markings). (https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=186660)
  19. Google is your friend! This photo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Antelope_(F170)#/media/File:HMS_Antelope_1982.jpg) was taken in San Carlos Water, on 23 May 1982, a few hours before one of the two 1000lb unexploded bombs detonated whilst an attempt to defuse it was being made.
  20. A warning if you intend to model Belfast as she is now: she underwent a major modernisation in the late 1950s, which included, amongst other things, a completely new bridge, new AA directors, new light/medium AA, rearranged boat stowage, removal of Carley floats and fitting of inflatable liferafts, repositioned boat crane, plating in of the upper deck abreast the forefunnel and new radars - in addition to the lattice masts provided by Atlantic Models. Lots of work!
  21. Additionally, the hull would need amendment - Portland's fo'c'sle break was level with the after end of the bridge structure, whereas Indianapolis had hers aft of the funnel.
  22. Is Alan Raven's "Elite booklet" the same as Alan Raven Ensign 1: King George the Fifth Class Battleships (London: Bivouac Books, 1972)?
  23. As a leader, ONSLOW had a wider after deckhouse, and therefore there wasn't room for throwers abreast it - notwithstanding some references, she had one thrower each side, just forward of the deckhouse. Plenty of references around - eg http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/books-plans/ship-craft/21-rndd/z-06.jpg. Each thrower had stands for three charges in their arbors ready for reloading.
  24. (Serious thread drift here! ) As well as Fearless' and Intrepid's operation of Sea Harriers, Atlantic Conveyer had an armed Sea Harrier on the "flight deck" ready for a VTOL air defence sortie when she sailed south from Ascension Island in 1982. It had an AAR probe fitted, and, if launched, it would have needed fuel from a Victor tanker before very long.
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