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Well the good news is that I managed to recover the lost work...but only after I'd spent about 3 hours yesterday trying to recreate it. So this is what she now looks like:
The plan is to build in 1/350 and I've got a couple of options. I can either print the whole hull in 5 main sections - my printer can't cope with any more than that - or just print the fore and aft ends which are for me at least the hardest parts to build from styrene sheet but scratch build the centre section.
I have got copies of Profile 23 and 24 which @S-boat 55 kindly sent me last year.
I'm acutely aware that this is taking over the ARK ROYAL thread so perhaps I should start a separate 3D-build WIP thread? I was loathe to do so just yet because this is a long term project and the frequency of updates will be sparse!
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Fascinating thread this. Thanks to all contributors.
On 08/04/2022 at 10:28, iang said:On 7 June Ark Royal embarked 5 Walrus from 701 Squadron from Harstad for return passage and 1 Walrus from Glorious on 8 June. Two of these were ex-HMS Effingham (P5662 and P5663). The others serials were P5656 , P5697, P5707, P5711 (all to Harstad via HMS Glorious on 9 May).
I have a photograph of a Walrus on Ark Royal, in high demarcation camouflage, which I had assumed was one of these (I can't read the serial), but looking at it again it does not have a fin flash, so it is before 7 June Harstad embarkation. The Admiralty mandated marking a fin flash and yellow concentric to the fuselage roundel of FAA aircraft on 30 May.
Just a thought. Notwithstanding the fact that the Admiralty may have mandated something on 30 May, 701 Sqn were IIRC ashore in Norway and from what I have read about the Norwegian campaign stores support ashore was sparse so I would put money on a bet that paint supplies were not amongst their spares and I would suspect there is every possibility that they may have been unable to comply with the directive by the time they embarked. I'm sure that ARK would have had the paint on board but would the tempo of operations have permitted the repainting? I don't know.
On 15/09/2022 at 10:49, iang said:I thought about a Trumpeter Repulse conversion to Glorious and it might be a good route. Instead, I used the Lindberg 1/400 Hood. It's a truly appalling kit, but other than bow and stern matches the dimensions of Furious/Glorious in 1/350 quite well. It can also be found very cheap, so suitable for batch production. I modified the hulls to represent Furious 1918, Furious 1939, Glorious 1936, and Courageous 1916. I had plans for each enlarged to 1/350 and they match the hulls pretty well. The bulges on the Lindberg Hood are non-existent, so the hulls can be modified depending on ship/date. The project stalled through a lack of time (I really need to retire) and absence of suitable detailed plans. I was hoping for one of the three ships to feature as a volume in the Seaforth original builders plans series. but this series seems to have stalled, as there have been no new volumes since Cossack.
I'd be interested in any information that you did have pertaining to FURIOUS in 1939/1940. In the assumption that there were no suitable kits that could be converted, I have started drawing her in CAD and plan at some point in the future to 3D print her but owing to paucity of information it is proceeding somewhat slowly. This is a render of progress to date although somewhat annoyingly we had a power cut about a week or so ago and my PC crashed. Even though I know I had saved it, Fusion 360 seems to have gone back to a much earlier version of this. I had also drawn all of the supports for the 8 barrelled pom-poms, opened up the covered fo'c'sle, added the hawse pipes and whole raft more. No idea what's happened to them. I will be starting a WIP thread at some point to chart progress on this but it is a long term project.
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On 15/09/2022 at 19:27, Rob 1 said:
This could inspire me to get an Atlantic kit of a Cold War subject and have a go at one.
Thanks. They're definitely worth it.
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Superb work as ever Rob. I note your point about rigging the foremast before you fit it. I will give that a try on my next one. I find rigging so frustrating!
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I'm sure you'll be fine. These Atlantic Modles kit go together pretty well out of the box and you should be able to get something that looks accurate without the extra stuff I went into for PUMA.
Don't forget though that if your dad was on board '59-'63, it will be before the solid mainmast and type 965 radar was fitted so you will need to revert back to the early configuration. The PE in this kit does include a lattice mainmast but without checking my references I'm not sure what other changes were made when they were modified.
Do let us know how you get on. We need more modellers building these cold war icons.
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That's a great rendition of a ship that is often overlooked but paid such a critical role in safeguarding Malta. I've studied Op Pedestal in the past as part of an analysis between that convoy and the disaster that was PQ-17 so it was fascinating to read your grandfather's words - thank you. You must be very proud of him.
With regards to the weathering, when I looked at the model, it didn't look overdone at all - it looks like a well used WW2 convoy escort! It was only when I then looked at the first photo of the ship herself in the Clyde that I saw what you meant in that actually BRAMHAM was very clean by comparison. But it's certainly not excessive.
@ArnoldAmbrose's comment about the guardrails is unfortunately, something I think about all 1/700 scale ships. Not that we shouldn't use PE guardrails but that they always look overscale. And I think the issue is simply that PE technology can only go so far. A realistic scale guardrail stanchion in 1/700 is 0.04 mm diameter; the wire rope connecting the stanchions about 0.01 mm. I'm not sure my eyesight is even up to seeing that without an optivisor let alone trying to attach them to a model. But I would still encourage the use of guardrails even if they are overscale.
It's remarkable how the colour perception in a BW phot can distort the eye. Looking at the photo of BRAMHAM in the Clyde, I would have sworn that the block of WA light blue that comes up from the stem to just under the bridge and the inverted triangles underneath the seaboat/cutter were the same colour as the WA green used elsewhere.
Great build - you just need to scratch build Ohio to go with her.
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That's a cracking job. You should be very proud of her.
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That looks really nice. I'm with you on the no weathering if she's on a stand.
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BRAVE's boot topping was a slightly darker grey than weatherwork grey when she commissioned in 86. By the time I joined her in late 1990 she'd reverted to black over I think dark red
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On 22/08/2022 at 09:35, phildagreek said:
Looks very smart, the Yeoman would be proud. As an ex communicator I can tell you that the whole dress ship palava was a real pain in the proverbial.
Fortunately it was never something that I had to get hands on with. I always had a good team of communicators and it just happened!
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Stunning.
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On 12/08/2022 at 13:14, Iceman 29 said:
This is a "Normal" phenomenon, because during the diffusion of UVs through the pixels of the LCD screen, the UVs diffuse a little at the periphery in the resin. This makes the part a bit oversized.
For a simple part no problem. But for a part that has to be assembled to another one, it's a problem, on both parts
Thanks for the explanation - now you explain it like that it makes perfect sense and would explain why the spigots I printed to join HECLA's two hull halves together failed
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On 17/08/2022 at 09:19, Bertie McBoatface said:
Ah, so this is signal flags as bunting. Trust the Navy to have a sequence laid down - they think of everything.
Well the tactical comms branch were known as "bunting tossers" (hopefully that won't get me a black mark for bad language!)
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Thanks everyone. It was interesting talking to other club members on Wednesday (one of whom is a professional CAD engineer) how I might improve the hull lines to get the proper double curvatures particularly around the bow. Fortunately with HECLA its not too pronounced but I think my next 3D printed effort (not next model I stress!) will be FURIOUS set in 1942 and she will definitely need me to sort out the shape of the bow.
Still haven't decided what to start next from the stash. SWMBO has invited me to do some DIY first...
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Thanks everyone for your kind words
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Thanks everyone for your kind words.
On 14/08/2022 at 08:06, Bertie McBoatface said:I like this very much. Modern warships can be rather 'grey' in every way but you've brought this one to vivid life in a very creative way. Excellent idea and execution.
I'm curious to know what the signal flags say.
That's the whole point of dress ship in that the flags are chosen to be in an order that they very specifically do not say anything. There is a mandated order which starts at the Jack Staff up to the foremast, then from the foremast to mainmast and finally Ensign Staff up to main mast. IIRC, I published the link to the online Book of Reference (BR) in the build log.
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Thanks for our kind words
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Your skills continue to amaze/inspire me.
On 09/08/2022 at 14:39, Iceman 29 said:The clearances are increased on the parts that fit, this is due to the fact that the resin 3D printers make the parts a little larger than the design, about 0.3 mm for the Anycubic LCD printers, or on a cylinder 0.6 mm, so it is necessary to take this into account when designing.
For the Photon Ultra which does not use a screen, it is much less. I will print a prototype with this one to validate the design of these parts.That's really interesting. I must confess I haven't noticed any oversize printing on an Elegoo Mars. I will have to get the micrometer out and measure some of the parts.
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On 10/08/2022 at 10:46, Johnson said:
Hi Chewy, @Chewbacca
Now look what you've done! (with your excellent HMS HECLA as inspiration).
Airfix have re-released HMS Fearless and I've tracked down your build!
Though whether I can match your superb model is highly doubtful.
If you read this (my post here is a bit 'after the event'), can you recall which WEP kits you used? I think I need one PE 624 and one PE 625.
A superb build, I love the gentle setting with the other small ships in attendance, and the craft on the back of the flight deck.
Best regards,
Thanks for your kind words. You are indeed correct that I used 624 and 625 though as @Francis Macnaughton has pointed out, Peter now does a dedicated set which provides far more than you get in those 2 sets for less than half the price and without any risk of import tax thrown on top.
Good luck with your build. If I can help in any way please let me know though it was a long time ago that I was on board and I was only there for 2 months!
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Thanks everyone for your kind words. My challenge now though is what next. So much in the stash to choose from.
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Well despite the fact that I finished PUMA 4 months ago, I never actually found time to get the studio set up the studio to take the RFI photos. There was a more pressing need to do so to photograph HECLA before the Falklands 40 GB gallery closed yesterday so with everything set up, i thought that was a good time to bring PUMA in as well.
RFI photos can be found here:
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Better late than never I suppose. I actually finished this model back in April but never managed to get the studio set up to take the RFI photos. Prompted by the fact that I finished HECLA yesterday and had to post the photos for that today before the Falklands 40 GB closed, I thought it was as good as time as any to take PUMA's RFI photos as well.
WIP can be found here:
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Thanks Stuart. I think you're right about the length of time. The last GB I participated in was the Pacific War GB and IIRC it took me 15 months to complete BULOLO instead of the 3 months prescribed!
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HMS Glamorgan colours
in Maritime Cold War to 1990
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But that's all part of the fun Jeff! We'll have to get you using PE - the WEM 1/600 Sea Slug launcher is a thing of beauty!
How do you plan to upgrade the kit blob that purports to be a 965 radar?