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I got a set via the Aug/Sep/Oct Scale models magazines by simply buying them off ebay. I have also used the Magazine Exchange quite a lot for this sort of thing too. See below: https://www.magazineexchange.co.uk/cw/ Even with international postage, this might be a way forward for you. Cheers.

Oh dear, I was afraid of that.

Thankyou once again. I just tried an order and it went through. I just hope that the package doesn’t get waylaid by HMRC. Fingers crossed. Doesn’t help me get the 3D parts for the other kits regrettably.

Thanks, I know the reasons for it all though. Just wondered if they now accepted smaller orders from UK which wasn’t the case recently. I’m a bit late in life now to be starting an import business but cheers for the idea.

Hi Stephen, are you saying that you did an order for less than £135 and their checkout system accepted it ? Perhaps the policy has changed recently, it would be nice to know this if so.

Mine arrived this last week from my Hannants pre order. Lovely kit without a doubt. Minor disappointment was the gifted 3D parts weren’t there which they have been on previous Arma kits pre ordered this way. I would have pre ordered direct from Arma except here in the UK we have to be above £135 otherwise Arma won’t touch us for orders. Blow Brexit !!!

The ex Contrail one is very basic. The AIM issue was a bit better with a very decent BEA decal sheet and white metal props and undercarriage. The 144 Welsh models kit is around in two forms - full vac or with a resin wing, fins and tailplane and engines which I’d definitely go for if you can. Both issues have a white metal u/c which helps a lot but being to scale, it is a bit frail when you start adding resin parts and nose weight. Welsh also did white metal props as an extra, also recommended. About 12 years back I made 5 up in BKS colours for our ex BKS apprentices 60th birthdays. There were pictures in here but long gone now I think. Anyway the Welsh kit scrubs up quite well. Good hunting.

I don’t know the answer to your query but the notes which came with Modeldecal set #25 (good grief almost 50 years ago !) have this to say : ’….Inside faces of undercarriage doors, undercarriage legs and wheel hubs on some Lightning F2As are painted gold, and this may by now be the case with XN781 & XN771…..’ The two serials quoted are those provided in the set. I think you will be reasonably safe whatever you go with because the aircraft were current at the time this was written in 1974 and ambiguity is clearly indicated even then.

Can’t assist with the magazine but here’s a link to an online build : https://brexitmodeller.com/forums/topic/2892-172nd-supermarine-scimitar-f1-by-skybirds86/

Thanks, pm sent.

Were these published anywhere we might know ?

But we loved it back in 1962…..

Slightly off topic but the expression ‘train station’ gets my goat. When I were a lad, it was ‘railway station’. Even worse when it is said with the upward ending of an Australian Questioning Intonation on the ‘station’ bit. Mind you, many younger people use the AQI in every sentence…. Often with ‘yeah?’ after they've said it. Have a curmudgeonly day (?)

Cheers.

Thanks for that.

OK thank you. Actually, looking properly it is obvious that here we have 12 outlets not 6. Made for the IX kit.

Smashing, thanks very much. My own search on Hannants didn’t pick those up.

As above, the ones in the kit seem to be the later ‘fishtail’ variety rather than the more correct rounded outlets. Can any members please advise if any aftermarket replacements were ever available. A quick look didn’t show much. Thanks.

A BMW Models magazine ad for Dec. 1970 lists the following: Corsair, Skyhawk, Lightning, Mirage, MiG 19, MiG21, Fiat G91, Starfighter, SAAB J35F, Iroquois, all at 5/11 (old UK money). SAAB AV37, F4E Phantom, Intruder all at 9/11. B52F Stratofort at 79/6. (That is £3-19/6). edit: Buccaneer yet to come presumably. edit 2: John Burns’ PAK20 lists more - Bell UG-1G Huey Cobra, Boeing Vertol 107-11, F4K/M Phantom, Illyushin IL28, Bell AH-1G, MiG15 & F-86F Sabre duo, Me-262A & Me-163 duo, Sikorsky CH-54 Skycrane, Republic F-105D Thunderchief. Quite a list there isn’t it ?

By the way, Paul Lucas has also discussed this OG issue in Colour Conundrum RAF day fighter colours in SAM and reprinted in the excellent Compendium booklets, volume 2. The conclusions are slightly vague in that the MSG- Night 7-1 ratio to obtain the new colour eventually named Ocean Grey was promulgated widely, all discussed at length by PL. No variation (between the mixed version and paint factory supplied version) in the mix formula has turned up but still the ready mixed OG appears different (to some eyes) in it’s suspected two forms although bearing the same name. Worth a read anyway.

Thanks Casey, I have that book and tbh I use that chart as my go to guide.

If I read Edgar’s posting correctly, along with with the quotes from various orders at the time, the Mixed Grey was the actual colour and also it’s name, for a few days, until they renamed it Ocean Grey and included it into the supply listings.

I have one of these on the way from Hannants but I fear that I might have been better off just getting another Airfix one, the old tool version is OK too. Perhaps the best result in the longer term would be for Arma Hobby to follow their forthcoming IIc with a 1/48 Mk.I.

Well since the consensus seems to be that Ocean Grey is a 7-1 mix of MSG and Night (black) perhaps the discussion should move towards the constituent shades/hues of MSG itself….

PM sent, thanks Tony.