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I'm going by the Paul Lucas article on Hurricane intruders in MAM January 2008 (Vol.7 Issue 1) but I haven't looked elsewhere. RDM2/RDM2a were the two formulae of Special Night intended to correct the problem you refer to which was associated with the first introduction of Special Night (which flaked off). Before that it was the smooth Night (blue black) that was said to cause the problems with searchlights. Confused yet? I am!
Special Night (chimney soot) was pure carbon black pigment, referred to as plain old matt black in some instructions. Night (smooth) was a mix of carbon black and ultramarine pigments to create a very dark blue black, hence the name. Some writers describe the result as a very dark grey but if you try it for yourself, with proper carbon black and ultramarine (a very strong blue), you will discover that it isn't really! The exact same mix of pigments was used by the IJN on the cowlings of Zeros which gives a better clue to its appearance.
Nick,
I'm going by Michael Bowyer, he quotes DH hated the RDM2/a finish that took 15mph off the top speed of the Mosquito and replace it with Night i.e. Matt Black in mid summer 1942. 486 cetainly used Night on the underside of their Nightfigther Typhoons.
Hopefully someone wiser than me will be able to give chapter and verse
Andy
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As I understand it the RDM2 Special Night (chimney soot) replaced the smooth Night (blue black) not t'other way around. I agree that the spinner could be black though.
You may well be right but I thought that the RDM2 had an adverse affect on performance and was did not adhere well to the pre prepared surfaces. It also din't stop searchlights reflecting of it . Therefore it was decided to revert back to Night this time Smooth Night before the nightfighters went into grey/green.
Happy to learn more.
Apparently Harvey Sweetman was consulted over the paintings, but of course many years had passed.....
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Hi Nick
I saw your post after sending mine. :-(
Thanks for your comments. I think that we will paint the spinner in Red but I am not sure about the code letter.
Cheers
Santiago
The aircraft in the the picture is a Mk IIb of 486(NZ) Sqaudron dated around June 1942 when 486 were practising interceptions in conjuction with a Turbinlite Flight. There are two colour paintings in the RNZAF Museum of Z3029 SA R which Harvey Sweetman used to shoot down a Do 217 of 5/KG40 on the night of 23/24 July 1942. He shot this machine down using MK 1 eyeball not in conjunction with a Turbinelite. These show the codes and serials in Dull Red and the Spinner Black. Around this time the RDM2 was changed to Smooth Night.
Hope this is of some use.
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[ Is there any hope ?? will the urge to build return ? will the day come when my patience returns or is that it. Have i finally ( after 49 years) grown up.
Sadly for both of us the answers are:
No.
Yes.
No
No.
I'm 54 and you sound just like me.
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None left in Sheffield, Meadowhall, but plenty of F-105Gs and F-86D(Early)s. I'd never seen the early Dog at full retail so it was a nice suprise to get one at a bargain price.
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I know times is hard everywhere around the hobby, but it strikes me as strange that after six months or so on the market, the only after-market decals that seem to be available for the (IMHO) superb 1:32 Hasegawa P-40E, are from Techmod, for Russian flown aircraft. Not decrying Techmod, you understand just very surprised and disappointed (perhaps a wee bit whiney too
), that the likes of Lifelike, Aeromaster, Eagle Strike, Eagle Cals and the rest seem to have overlooked the poor old War/Kitty Hawk.Perhaps the decal companies are waiting for the long tail F/M/N's to come onto the market, then release multi version sheets..... we (I) can hope; So, anybody have any thoughts or opinions ?? (just wondering)
TiA
Ian
Well, Aeromaster and Eagle Strike are basically defunct, just issuing tie-ins with Squadron Books. As they were so prolific in the past I think we got used to having things on tap and the others mentionedonly issued the odd sheet as and when. I remember eagerly awaiting the next release from Modeldecals and being disappointed for months at a time.
Sorry I know this is no help
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Fabulous model, you have produced a really convincing paint job. I wish mine was as good.
Not intended as any form of criticism of you or your model but Airfix missed out providing the Loran 'towel rail' aerial carried by all the RNZAF B(12)s on the top of the starboard wing root. It was part of the standard fit and there from delivery onwards.
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Just a quick word of advise to anyone who may be tackling one of these in the future (& it would be useful to know if anyone who has already built this kit noticed this). The tail booms are in two halves with the instructions stating that parts 21 & 22 should be on the insides when the completed booms are offered up. If you do this, the tailplane will NOT fit between them. On each side of each fin, there are flanges for attaching the tailplane & the short outer extensions. Examining the parts reveals that on parts 21&22, these flanges are wider than they are on parts 20&23. It is necessary to install the booms with parts 20 & 23 innermost. This way the tailplane fits without forcing the booms apart. Other than that, this is a nice little kit.
BTW, this relates to the FB4 I am building. I haven't checked the FB1 with it's differently styled tail but will remember to look out for it. As the Sea Venom has FB4 style booms, it may apply there (when it arrives!)
I had the same problem with the tailplane on my FB.1. Good spot, I never thought that the booms could be reversed.
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Hope that is the case as I really miss them.
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Either of the Hasegawa or Tamiya kits are good starting points.
The Tamiya is almost a "shake the box and out comes a model" though the parts are a little less refined than the Hasegawa which has a nasty wing to fuselage rear joint. Once painted it is hard to tell them appart.
Both were upgraded in the late 1990's so any new boxing will be fine.
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For me,the B(I)12 is a fabulous kit much easier to build that the Classic Airframe. The only problem area is the bomb bay door, which are designed to be open and area horrible fit it you decide to close them.
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ICM make a good accurate Spit Mk IX out of the box, just don't add the engine if you want the cowls closed.
The Hasegawa is a fabulous piece of engineering but looks too short, the Aeroclub replacement Fuselage really makes a difference. Currently the Haswgawa kit is avialable in a Revell of Germany box with really nice markings and is much cheaper over here than the Hasegawa boxing.
Hope this helps
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These are RNZAF Venoms (circa Malaya Emergency) on hire from the RAF (60 Sqn I believe) with Kiwi markings (photo courtesy of MJ Mine)
These are actually 14 Squadron RNZAF machines. They were leased and never went to NZ, remaining behind in Singapore when 75 Sqaudron RNZAF replaced them with leased Canberra B.2s. Fabulous photo, thanks for sharing.
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And it looks a beauty. Plastic wings and fuselage, white metal details including rexhaust pipes and option brass etch struts. A quantum leap over their original vac form.
Now all I need is a set of floats.
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I have the MDC set, so I'm a bit curious as to what the difficulties were and how you managed them. I also have the Falcon Clear-Vax canopy set Prt 5, wich has the early rear 2 gun canopy, and also has the front canopy framing around the front gun better represented. This canopy was retrofitted to the A-1 and standard on the early A-5. One could, with some careful hacking and gouging, produce an early A-1 canopy from this set.
The difficulties start with the original kit as its multi-variant options make it a bit of a tough build.
The MDC fin didn't fit very well, the locating slot was full of rubber from a perished mould and clearing it damaged the whole piece. The Engines didn't match up to the plastic wing parts at all and basically nothing fitted anything else. I overcame this through lots of time, filler, sanding and plastic card. My experience with other MDC stufff has been very positive so maybe I just got a rogue set.
I think the Falcon canopy set is going to make your life a lot eaier than trying to modify the kit parts.
Good luck
Andy
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A 1/48 Sea Venom is one I'm waiting to add to my stash.
I wouldn't mind this one or the Aeroclub kit, if I could find one.
Just missed out on picking up the Aeroclub kit for £10 a couple of years back at Hinckly
Karl
I've got an Aeroclub one I'll not build in the foreseeable future, let me know if you want it £18 plus postage etc.
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there is no information that you require so far
can give some names:
sgt Dube/WO Sgt Bannister- L6624 the latter wounded by return fire when 619 (NF) were scrambled during the day
John Topham that night claimed a Ju 88
probably doesn't help much-sorry
No, that is brilliant as I couldn't find the Dube/Bannister serial. Sadly it dosen't tiei-n with the serials/codes I know:
FK P L6709
FK O L6734
FK N L8685
FK M L8726
Thanks very much
Just how quick do you want the information? My reference stuff is boxed up and still in Worcestershire, but I have to go the National Archives at Kew in the next couple of weeks. I could check the squadron Operational Records Book which is there on microfilm for you.Regards
Andy
Andy,
no great rush, I'm doing the Classic Airframes kit so it will be months before I get round to painting it. Thanks very much for your kind offer.
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I guess the title says it all, I'm trying to find as serial/code tie up for a 219 Squadron Blenheim Mk1f that took part in the actions of 15th August.
I have 2 code/serials for the Squadron from 'Fighter Squadrons of the RAF' but no date and one clear photo of FK S/L1105 dated August 1940 but as she crashed and was written off in July 1940 when at an OTU I have discounted that one.
Any help would be great. Thanks
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Having watched a documentary on the RAF this morning (DVD), I'm interested in getting hold of a Hawker Hind kit, but I can't face 1/72nd!
There seems to be nothing available out there. Is this the case?
Cheers,
Nick
Has anyone heard any rumours about the Classic Airframes series of Hart/Hinds. With the AZ 172nd scale kits out, I wonder if a scale up is possible?
The Aeroclub kit is as the others have said a good start to the gentle art of vac-form building and is a good basis for most variants.
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IIRC the Frog Javelin was nearer to a Mk8 than a Mk9 as the nose is right for the shorter and fatter US radar. Sadly the best Javelin was the Heller T3 but it was a strange mark to make as there were only 13 built. If Airfix had only converted it to a Mk4 or Mk5 fighter that would have been more sensible. As it is the mould was modified and the T3 is no more.
It is time a good, injection moulded Javelin was released in 1/72nd and 1/48th
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I've been using the new Humbrol acrylic matt spray in the rattle can and it is very very flat.
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Ok, so we went and this is what I found.
Model Shops; one small part of the ToyMaster in Sandown. A reasonably eclectic selection of old and new ( Revell Gannet )with a goodish supply of paints etc. Nothing to write home about but not bad compared with my local town. We also passed a model shop in Newport but didn't stop, as it was after 6.
IOW Airport near Sandown; good viewing from the boundary road, some interesting types like a Tigher Moth, a very early Cessna and an Islander.
Bembridge; Six Islanders on the parking area, two ex-Belgian Air Force. A Steerman and a Pilatus Turbo Porter on the day I was there. A Westland Scout called in later in the week. Good viewing from the flying club better still a pub with a car park overlooking the field. And the wife drove home. Result.
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Fabulous piece of work Andy. It is an inspiration to help me finish mine.I agree with evrything you said about the kit.
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Just wondering whether to add a Blenheim IF to my build list for the BoB GB, and it got me thinking about the transition of the colour scheme from the day fighter green/brown/sky to black. Would it have been possible for the fighter variant Blenheims to have flown late BoB all in black? Any leads gents?
Regards
Andy
Apparently 'A meeting at the Air Ministry on October 30th 1940 decided that all nightfighters were to be painted 'Special Night Flying Black Dope' which would appear to be RDM2A'. Source Camouflage and Markings No2 The Battle of Britain by Paul Lucas.
If you take the 30th October to be the official end of the Battle of Britain then it looks unlikely. However maybe some Squadrons had already painted their aircraft in normal night (Black) paint. I just haven't seen one.
Hope this is of some use
), that the likes of Lifelike, Aeromaster, Eagle Strike, Eagle Cals and the rest seem to have overlooked the poor old War/Kitty Hawk.
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They certainly did, I have one built. I was a painless build and provided white metal aerials etc which was nice after all the scratch building I had to do on my Falcon Vac-form.
I think it was not that much more expensive than the Classic kit when it first came out but I don't know if they still do it. I passed on the Classic kit as I aleready had the two others in my collection.