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Milos Gazdic

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  1. As Mike points out that is the only real difference between H-0 & H-1 in reality too. Plus 2 small fueling points on the top of each wing that are present on H-1 and not there on H-0 (but Aoshima kit could still have it H-0! and in that case those should be filled in and sanded smooth)
  2. @stevehnz I have tried & installed the add on you suggested but it doesn't seem to work for me Thank you very much anyhow!
  3. Dear enthusiasts, modeler & researcher friends! Hope you are having a nice day & the weekend will be even nicer! I was unable to dedicate time last night to these matters. Came home too late & after spending few moments with my baby who yesterday turned 6 months exactly went for a dinner with a friend who was leaving Shanghai last night after short visit. I am aware that these were single layer paints. But still painting multiple layers in top of each other would cause some weight gain. But as I mentioned in my previous post - it is of secondary importance for this discussion but we should not ignore it completely. Why am I asking about this is because I believe that airframe arrived to the unit already camouflaged and NOT with RLM75 painted overall on the top surfaces! Especially not on the wings! And if that is the case then yes - it is a gain in weight especially with single-coat paints (which as I understand apply in ticker layer than the old style ones that demanded the primer). And if the machine arrived to unit already camouflaged (power-egg could have been painted in Junkers style as seen in Jerry's book in the video capture) and the rest of airframe would be in camo which is standard to the factory that built the airframe and that is where I say that I agree with JaPo guys! and disagree with the fact that aircraft ever looked as in the first image in the instructions which were posted above coming from Eagle Editions! Jerry just confirmed that this is the instruction for modelers in how most easily to achieve the result closest to the original airframe and not the way airframe was painted in reality. After coming in "standard" camouflage - Kommodore probably ordered for his airframe to be painted similar to it's power-egg style. As for the "neatness" of the application of the paints on the original airframe, looking at the photos for they look a bit softer than on the rebuilt machine. But those are finesse... And yes - Fw 190 D-13 "<<" WNr 836016 photos and a photo of 3rd D-13 (burnt, seen here: https://vintageeagle.com/2017/12/11/addendum-ce-vol-i-photo-46-fw-190-d-13/ ) could also help us in determining how did "Gelbe 10" look before the final camo was applied onto it, when it just left the factory. Looking forward for more thoughts and comments guys! Have a great weekend M
  4. I've posted this on TOCH but maybe it's gonna be more interesting as a discussion for you guys... Namely, I am looking at the photos of 1./JG 1 machines in JG1 & 11 books on pages 321 & 322 & in Rodeike's Fw 190 book on page 114 (same photo as on 321) and realizing that both "Weisse 6" and "Weisse 8" feature a circular shape where IV Gruppe disc was overpainted after machines were passed over to new unit (I./JG 1). All three machines have painted cowling overall white. Q1: I wonder if we could assume that "Weisse 10" photographed at the approximately the same time would feature the same thing behind the fuselage cross? Eduard's new Weekend Edition kit doesn't show this feature on their instructions. Unfortunately, all three photos on Page 322 showing "Weisse 10" do not show this area (either due to the framing or because the ground crew is covering it in a total shot). Q2: Cutting Edge Decals CED48192 features "Weisse 8" and shows it with the overpainted disc as per the above-mentioned images. It instructs that the Malteser-Kreuz should be applied to the port side of the fuselage but the only photo showing this machine is from the starboard side. I wonder if Malteser-Kreuz was applied to all the machines of 1./JG 1 or not? Q3: The same decal sheet shows the under-cowling area to be painted red! I am not a believer in red cowlings (although I have seen few color shots showing them) and wonder it there is any reason for this to be so? Q4: Is there any more photos of these three machines published anywhere else? I am mostly interested in the port side shot of Weisse 8 and the starboard shot of Weisse 10. Any pointer would be greatly appreciated!} Best, Milos
  5. Will try to do that Steve as soon as I arrive home tonite! thanks for the pointer!
  6. Dear Rolls-Royce & Flying Doctor! I agree with you - Nobody has spent more time from all the researchers next to that "sexy lady" than our dear Jerry! And don't understand me wrong - since the days when I have started being interested into these sexy birds (about 25 years ago) I always looked at him with huge admiration. No wonder I have 50 or so Eagle Cals Decals & all the publications they ever published (except the recent zines which I miss a few). As painting of the real thing goes - it is great he painted it I guess all of us would have loved to be in his spot, but I personally believe that the softer edges of all the applied colors could heve been a bit more "realistic". Now - question that bothers me is: Was "Gelbe 10" painted as we know it: (a) in the front line unite when it was accepted in service? or (b) did it arrive like that from the factory? Jerry himself is showing us a power egg of the D-13 as a still capture from the video in his book. Power egg is camouflaged in very similar manner to "Gelbe 10"! But at the rear end of it - there is big surface of "light green" patch (I forgot what it is stated to be at this moment & I don't have the book here next to me in the office). But if the power eggs were coming pre-painted from the Junkers factory as it is shown there - how is it possible that whole airframe was RLM 75 on top surfaces at any given moment? Further - if we know that by the end of war paint was applied in very thin layers for each of the color straight on metal airframe in most of the cases - why would they paint whole airframe with the single RLM75 color on top surfaces? On top of it all it would also add some weight to airframe with multiple layers applied but let's not worry about it for such "Hot Rod". So, once I am back home - I will put my nose in those books (both Jerry's & JaPo's) & see if what are the things I forgot & if my memory plays with me... A thought of mine was: Junkers' power-egg comes to factory, new airframe built is mated with all the components from subcontractors (tail, horizontal surfaces... canopy) in their own colors and most probably machine leaves the factory in such "mix & match" camouflage... I have to check books and see what both authors (group of authors) suggest that happened afterwards to the complete airframe! BUT to be precise of what I meant when I said I choose JaPo's side when I wrote it above is that I believe that each factory was having some kind of standards & that these standards can be applied to (certain batches of) airframes built at those specific locations! More from me when I arrive home... Time to work
  7. Hello T-Bolt et al, while searching for subjects for my Fw 190 A-3 build, during last 2-3 weeks, I've spent over the secondary references available to me and realized that many of A-3s didn't carry their outer guns! Basically most of the machines I find interesting are the ones with only cannons in the inner position! What is clear that all of them had that "flat panel" fitted there (which in fact is not completely flat but for some reason still has a tiny bulge present, unlike later jabo versions of Fw 190s which had it completely flat). I am not sure if this decision was coming from above, where RLM maybe realized that these machines are underpowered to carry extra 2 cannons or it was personal preference of the pilots but I see it in some images as a practice of the whole unit! Just my 2 cents, since this is something I have not paid attention before...
  8. Dear Smeosky, how I approach my selection for the subjects of my models is by going through decals available to me & trying to match them with the references, predominantly photographs & texts, followed by the profiles! Profiles can often be misleading even if done by the best aviation artists. There are so many interesting a/c which are quite well covered in photographs & even profiles that don't have decals made for them by any of the companies... and on the other hand - there are so many a/c which have been covered by multiple decal companies in the same (or all) scale(s). I quite trust to JaPo's approach in which they match the WNr. & style applied to that WNr. and factory that build it as Troy already mentioned above but each airframe could have some special traits only applicable to that airframe and such things cannot be known without photos... so I restrain myself from building machines that are not (clearly) documented at least with one photo. Educated guesses are great but references are there to (often) prove us wrong
  9. I still have quite a few 1/72 models back home in Serbia and many of those cool conversions for them but in the meantime I have moved fully to 1/48 due to my eyesight. I never did any of those Zvezda Fw190s nor held them in my hand but I've heard quite good comments from a friend who is building few of them at same time because of the speed of assembly & price too!
  10. Hello guys! So great to connect with some of the known people here on this forum too! I've been moving a lot & life was taking it's toll but I never stopped being into Fw 190 & aviation. From time to time I would post over on TOCH & Luftwaffe Research Group but I seem to have lost the connection with the people interested in Fw 190 Camouflage & those discussions we had dealing with some of those funky birds! Not sure which of the forums these days you consider to be best to discuss these things? Any opinions? I am currently building Fw 190 A-3 (wanted to do Eduard kit but chose the machine that could not be done from Eduard's Weekend version so had to move to my old beloved Tamiya kit) and Fw 190 A-8 (again Tamiya). Just laid my hands on few of new Eduard Focke-Wulfs so after these two I will choose some other scheme appropriate to Eduard's box and do another A-3 and possibly A-4 (somehow I tend to find more interesting A-4s than A-3s).
  11. Is it possible to receive the second photo posted by Jes in a PM by anyone having it? TIA M
  12. I have to agree with @Troy Smith and the source he mentioned here: JaPo books! I believe this airframe like all the others started life with standard camouflage and not with single color on the upper surfaces... from there it "developed" into one of the most interesting Fw 190s ever by overpainting on the field. I love both Jerry's books & JaPo crew's books and use both as references (cross-referencing) when I model Fw 190s, but in this case I take JaPo side
  13. Vedran & DavMarx are pointing two things that are often more obvious than the repositioning of the ETC rack in the images. that & blisters on the wings are the most prominent differences...
  14. Pozdrav svima! Hello Turkish Fw 190s were always my passion for two reasons First - Fw 190 is my favorite aircraft ever & Second - Turkey is one of the favorite countries I lived so far in (10 so far) Unfortunately, nobody ever wrote or researched these birds in details! And most of the texts you will find online are rewritten from site to site, from blog to modelers post... As Mr Jure notices well these airframes were delivered mid 1943 to Turkey. By that time early war colors were outdated already! BUT By that time Fw 190 A-1s (on which Fw 190 Aa-3 frames were based on) were outdated too! By the time these airframes were getting ready for Turkey - FuG 16z started entering the production of Fw 190s for Germany. And when you look at it - Germany didn't pass to Turkey - neither Fw 190 A-3 (but old airframes update to close to that standard with the omission of the 20mm cannons on top of it all)... ... so it leaves me wonder - would they pass over the airframes painted in their standard camouflage too? Don't forget that camo is as important secret as anything else from the equipment! So, yes, pattern could have been same or similar to German one - but were the paints same - it remains the question until someone who really spent time digging in the archives can tell us! One of the earlier images of Turkish Fw 190s is the one where Black 12 is in the foreground. No modification to the camouflage is visible and based on my personal opinion these machines look like painted in 02 / 71 / 65 scheme. Interesting thing with that Black 12's photo is that machine looks like NOT having inner wing armament at all! Like there is no hole in the wing root. A-2/A-3 style grills are visible on the side overpainted with black. All spinners in the photo seem to be same color and that color matches the prop color (we know props were painted RLM 70 on Fw 190s by German standards, but I wonder if they were painted maybe black for Turkey... since their spinners were black in the beginning according to rare authors writing about them). Özkan Türker in one of the articles also points out early war Luftwaffe camo. Props later received the yellow tips according to TuAF standards & also different color spinners!. Famous is the photo of "Red? 39" showing the light spinner and prop tips (yellow for both). Basically there were 4 Regiments: Akbaş, Sarıbaş, Albaş & Karabaş - and each had the spinners repainted accordingly. I never managed to find photos proving this 100%! Another thing I failed to locate is CLEAR image showing the covers of the inner wing armament! Considering that they Machine Guns were sent to Turkey in this position & that the airframes were in fact A-1s - would it mean that these should be same as in A-1s (flat completely?) or maybe similar to those few prototypes that had very elongated blisters there? Or were they really brought to A-3's standards bottom some of Turkish modelers building TuAF Fw 190 Aa-3s show them (IMHO wrongly!) There is a photo of "Black 27" showing this area but I never found high res photo which will be clear about it! Also same photo features a very dark Fw 190 that obviously has very different camo than all the others!!! So... we need someone to bite on this & deliver some great research about these amazing aircraft!! Sorry for reviving the subject that was sitting still for ages! Regards from Shanghai! Miško PS Oh! Yes! British colors could have been easily used later on! Apparently Turkey had quite a bit of those in stock!
  15. Mr Hornet - unfortunately, I email them only this morning after similar solution was offered by another forum member via PM. BUT I have solved the issue! Obviously guys from the LifeLike decals have added additional reference in the list of the references after mentioning them by number in the descriptions! So #5 mentioned next to machine mentioned by FalkeEins above is in fact reference #6, so I realized that reference #6 mentioned next to Yellow 28 is in fact Reference #7 which is "Jet & Prop Foto Archiv #7" which I luckily own! And yes - there is the photo of it on the page 40. Only one shot - showing the machine from rear starboard side quite widely. Starboard side of the fuselage shown & starboard wing clearly shown. In the background there is one more machine looking very similar to this one. Seems to be 26 but I cannot be certain. Propeller tips of "28" are clearly weathered & machine looks very weathered, used & abused... Port wing is not clearly visible pass wing cross. Port side of the fuselage & most of the port wing camo will be guestimated based on standards & standards we all know (which this machine obviously doesn't follow much). It is not clear from the photos if the machine used 2 cannon or 4 cannon wing. I will go with the 4 cannon wing (and probably will move to Tamiya model instead of originally planned Eduard since I have more of those in the stash). Description under the photo reads: Now I have to try and find the other A-3 that I would love to build at the same time: Red 7 / Blue 1!
  16. Exactly! that & cool "dark" late war machine "White 20" I am not amazing modeler but I always try for my models to be the best possible interpretations of the photos as I see them rather than how decal designers & researchers do... Have to keep on looking! Will check all the other references listed on the decal sheet & see which ones I have and go on from there!
  17. Totally agree Jes! Luckily there are / were many companies giving the references some even including them in their decals like Kommandeur Limited Edition Decals did, or like Eagle Cals are doing... or ones you have mentioned above. Unfortunately, I am stuck with the decal sheet that gives that super cool aircraft as an option & I am unable to source or remember if & where I have seen the photo!
  18. Hello again, I sincerely hope you don't mind me asking two consecutive questions about similar subject but I am planing a multi build of Eduard's Fw 190 A-3 and would like to find a proper references for the decal sheets I have! This time I am looking for a photo reference (or any secondary source of info) regarding Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-3 featured on Cutting Edge Decal sheet CED48196 "Fw 190 Reich Defenders Pt2" (can be seen here: http://fineartofdecals.com/goodies/148-treasures-axis/ second decal described on the page) Decal sheet instructions are mentioning the photo but they do not list any references which we could check to make our own assumption! I somehow remember this machine from some of the discussions on some of the forums over the last 20 years and I thought I have saved the photo & even the discussion in my "archive" but I am unable to dig it out! From the decal sheet: "First is Fw 190A-3, Red 7/Blue 1 (starboard) AND Blue 1/Red 7 (port), of an unknown unit. This very interesting A-3 features a late-war ground concealment scheme consisting of RLM 82/83 over the original 74/75. It IS possible that was an eastern front aircraft and received the infamous JG 53/54 experimental schemes using Russian paint stocks. There is no evidence of a yellow stripe under the fuselage cross visible in the photo. The exact colors of the numbers is also unclear. The 7 is darker than the yellow undercowl, but much lighter than the 1. The 1 is lighter than the Swastika. We think the colors are as shown, but the one could be black, and the seven could then be yellow or blue. Since the 7 is applied in the standard number position for the Fw 190, it appears the 1 was the new number for the aircraft during its final days." Is anyone able to help me locate a photo or two of the mentioned machine... I would really appreciate it! Thank you very much in advance! PS It's the first machine from the top - in the decal instructions:
  19. Hello all, I am looking for a photo reference of the Fw 190 A-3 featured on Life Like Decal sheet 48-019 (can be seen here: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/lifelike-decals-48-019-fw-190-part-2--1072675) Decal sheet instructions are pointing towards the Le Fana de L’Aviation Hors Serie issue #28 which I finally purchased from ebay & to my disappointment - I am totally unable to find the photo of the machine in the magazine mentioned above! Is anyone able to help me locate a photo or two of the mentioned machine. Thank you very much in advance!
  20. Hello, My first post here... been lurking around as a guest for some time now and decided to join in... My name is Miloš Gazdić and I am originally from Belgrade, Serbia though I've been living in 10 countries over close to last 20 years now: Turkey, Hungary, Croatia... and now in Shanghai, China for last 3+ years. Worked in advertising for many years in creative department (designer, art director, creative director...) and after quitting continued with my first love that originally took me into advertising: photography. Currently running a photo studio & production in Shanghai & feeling very happy. I used to be involved in quite a few forums of the past: LEMB, AAW, AWF... in the times when they were active & good source of information... even took part as a moderator on some of them. My main (almost only) interest when it comes to all the things that matter to us are / is: Aviation... WWII... Camouflage... Luftwaffe... Fw 190 family. I think that's narrows it & pinpoints it to the main interest of mine. That of course doesn't excludes the remaining aircraft, air-forces, eras or aspects of aviation (since I like aircraft like: Bf 109, Me 262, F6F, F4U, MiG-3, I-16, Ar 96... and many other more obscure aircraft that are not readily available in plastic). I tend to collect as many Secondary Sources (Books & Magazines) in printed form but I am very lazy & unorganized when it comes to my digital data & info collected from the net & discussion out there. When it comes to modeling I tend to do mostly 1/48 scale, plastic kits only (have few resin ones but never had a nerve to start one). Again my models reflect my interest in aviation so you can imagine that Fw 190s are 50% of my built and unbuilt models the rest is a "Salad". I will be a boring kind and will be asking many questions about the camouflage of (mostly) Fw 190s. So be ready & patient C U around! Milos
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