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Hullo, and what about tactical markings in "sicilly operation"... its D5, too? What is the way to fild "record of events" from 807 FAA? (very easy for RAF, bu greet web silence for FAA!) Thanks for all. Pierre from france

Thank you Seahawk. You give me elements i have no collected... But "how is possible to see document of Sicily opetation losses?"

Thanks for the document... very interestiing! For the two aircraft carriers, I have no research problems and have found everything I need. For the operational lives of the 4 French 807 sq. Pilots too! I'm just trying to determine which are the 4 seafires they were flying on the INDOMITABLE: the serial number and the operational codes. I already know that they had the FNFL bowsprit painted under the windshield!

One of the 3.. no more DFL141-A DFL141-B DFL141-C

Very nice box... and great aircraft... Old thing but very usefull!

Hullo friends At nationalarchives.gov.uk its possible to download summary and records of events for RAF WW2 sqadron. Here is a few document i cant download from france! Did you Know the way for down lios? Did one of you have it in is computer? Did a brittish citizen is able to down load it! It will be very important for my work about Free french FAFL! AIR81/9511 Multiple casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel, September 1940 to August 1941. C16997758 AIR81/4982 Multiple casualties: RAF Middle East Command Free French Personnel, 1941. Note: Related files: 4952, 4956 C16689080 AIR81/9512 Multiple Casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel; various dates and locations. C16997759 AIR81/9513 Multiple Casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel; various dates and locations. C16997760 AIR81/9514 Free French Air Force: Prisoners of war or interned during 1941. C16997761 Thanks for all. Pierre

Hello.. twice for today 1/ Do you have any items, such as log books or RAF form540 and 541 equivalents for the FAA (807Sq)? 4 free French (FNFL) fought on the BATTLER and the INDOMITABLE (July to October 43). I try to find the registrations of their planes (serial and code ops). And if not, do you know where we can find this information? Thank you in advance! Pilots are Roland CLAUDE 807Sq HMS Indomitable ou Battler. MIA 14.07.43 Pierre BERGEROT alias BILLART de NORBERT 807Sq HMS Indomitable ou Battler KIA 14-08-1943 Francis DELERY 807 Squadron Hms BATTLER jusqu'en OCT43 Gaston KERLAN 807 Squadron Hms BATTLER jusqu'en OCT43 Auguste Simon et Alfred Le Saint, were two mechanics assigned to French planes on the carrier. for DELERY and KERLAN they flew after 611 Squadron... and i look for their action in this squadron! There were 2/ I look for serialsand markings for Edward BRET (great french pilot)... on seafire at DDAY! (and lots of other stuff in a R-NAVY squadron) Arrived among the Free French after "TORCH" and in September 43 at Lee-on-Solent, HMS Daedalus within the 781 Southern Communications Squadron (SAR DUTIES), piloting Sea Hurricane Ib and Swordfish A great moment was the DADY, which saw Bret recognize Normandy in Seafire Ib. One of the tasks of the 781 Sq was to provide transport for Admiral Bertram Ramsey, the commander of the Allied naval forces. A special 781X Flight was created for this purpose, whose commander was the French Bret, appointed in August, probably unique in history at such a level! NOTA: BRET is 4,058 flight hours on 148 different types, for a total of 12,376 landings. If you find anything or if you know where I could go for help, you will save me! Thanks a lot! Now at the good place!

Can a staff member make the transfer or must I retype my message in the right place! Thanks for all!

Hello.. twice for today 1/ Do you have any items, such as log books or RAF form540 and 541 equivalents for the FAA (807Sq)? 4 free French (FNFL) fought on the BATTLER and the INDOMITABLE (July to October 43). I try to find the registrations of their planes (serial and code ops). And if not, do you know where we can find this information? Thank you in advance! Pilots are Roland CLAUDE 807Sq HMS Indomitable ou Battler. MIA 14.07.43 Pierre BERGEROT alias BILLART de NORBERT 807Sq HMS Indomitable ou Battler KIA 14-08-1943 Francis DELERY 807 Squadron Hms BATTLER jusqu'en OCT43 Gaston KERLAN 807 Squadron Hms BATTLER jusqu'en OCT43 Auguste Simon et Alfred Le Saint, were two mechanics assigned to French planes on the carrier. for DELERY and KERLAN they flew after 611 Squadron... and i look for their action in this squadron! There were 2/ I look for serialsand markings for Edward BRET (great french pilot)... on seafire at DDAY! (and lots of other stuff in a R-NAVY squadron) Arrived among the Free French after "TORCH" and in September 43 at Lee-on-Solent, HMS Daedalus within the 781 Southern Communications Squadron (SAR DUTIES), piloting Sea Hurricane Ib and Swordfish A great moment was the DADY, which saw Bret recognize Normandy in Seafire Ib. One of the tasks of the 781 Sq was to provide transport for Admiral Bertram Ramsey, the commander of the Allied naval forces. A special 781X Flight was created for this purpose, whose commander was the French Bret, appointed in August, probably unique in history at such a level! NOTA: BRET is 4,058 flight hours on 148 different types, for a total of 12,376 landings. If you find anything or if you know where I could go for help, you will save me! Thanks a lot!

Hullo friends At nationalarchives.gov.uk its possible to download summary and records of events for RAF WW2 sqadron. Here is a few document i cant download from france! Did you Know the way for down lios? Did one of you have it in is computer? Did a brittish citizen is able to down load it! It will be very important for my work about Free french FAFL! AIR81/9511 Multiple casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel, September 1940 to August 1941. C16997758 AIR81/4982 Multiple casualties: RAF Middle East Command Free French Personnel, 1941. Note: Related files: 4952, 4956 C16689080 AIR81/9512 Multiple Casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel; various dates and locations. C16997759 AIR81/9513 Multiple Casualties: Free French Air Force Personnel; various dates and locations. C16997760 AIR81/9514 Free French Air Force: Prisoners of war or interned during 1941. C16997761 Thanks for all. Pierre

Frends, for the HAWK... we know it was repainted in "light blue"... for free french service! Now my problem in about the MAGISTER R1973 of the FREE FRENCH FLIGHT in 40... Is it possible with the painting rules for RAF in Egypt a BLUE MAGISTER?? . . . NOTA: For the aeroclub oh Damascus, it was there a few planes F-AOPG Caudron C.272/5 Luciole F-ANFU Farman F.402 F-AREQ Miles M.2A Hawk (the Grelier plane in western desert)

For the HAWK... It is a Miles M.IIa HAWK Whitney Straight c/n 508 ex F-AREQ, from Aéroclub de Syrie et du Liban Possibly painted in AZURE BLUE!! but, what about possibiliy of Blue Magister???

Hello, my question relates to the MILES MAGISTER and in particular to those present in Egypt in 1940 and in 1942. On September 30, 1940, Sergeant G Boutitie (France), and Flight Lieutenant P J F Jacquier (France) were injured in an aircraft accident, on the Magister R1973. They are part of the "2 French Fighter Flight" “Sergeant G Boutitie (France), Flight Lieutenant P J F Jacquier (France): injured; aircraft accident, Magister R1973, 2 French Fighter Flight, 30 September 1940. »AIR81 / 3566 There is something that bothers me. A well-documented French book indicates that "MAGISTER 1973 (BLUE) is assigned to FFF2". What can this BLUE correspond to? The color of the plane? fully "AZURE BLUE"? This element is disturbing because in CIEL DE SABLE, by Claude RAOUL DUVAL tells that in May 1942, at the Fighter Group ALSACE, the Commander GRELIER (FAFL MISSION in Cairo) arrives for an important brieffing with a Miles HAWK (probably a MAGISTER) completely BLUE too, and "Bearer of cockade". It is not specified English or French. This color allows jokes to French pilots who present the planes to the "officers present", General VALIN, Colonel CARTIER. After the row of Hurries from Alsace, they signal the high stealth quality of Cdt Grelier's blue plane. "Full text translation" NOTA : We are at FUKA in February 1942. General VALIN, Colonel CARTIER, Commander GRELER are there to announce to the pilots who are volunteers for « GC Normandy » their transfer. “The atmosphere is likely to darken we have, as usual resort to the prank. Captain GRELIER came to see us aboard his plane, a small MILES HAWK, a low-wing touring monoplane, painted pretty in sky blue and adorned with a tricolor cockade. With Pouliquen's complicity, we have ours tired hurricane inspected, then we stop in front of the MILES. "You see here, my colonel, the latest addition to English technology: blue plane, therefore invisible, tiny, therefore manoeuvrable ... the Luftwaffe has only to be careful! " Colonel CARTIER, turns around the device, asks questions. GRELIER, delighted, sends us great complicit winks! " Is it possible to overall blue Miles in western desert? And of course ... TWO! Thanks for all pierre Ans sorry or th ebad inglish with help of google trad...

Deamming for T1771 special dutty!

BLUE LORRAINE CROSS... but only a few "errors" at the bigining of free french and very far zones! For LORRAINE, ALSACE... all blue... with a RAF BLUE!! Not pale french "cocarde" blue!