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4 hours ago, HOUSTON said:
Nearing the end ?
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On 07/09/2022 at 21:21, hendie said:
I thought my threads were long but this must be the only thread on BM where length is measured not by pages but by the number of Prime Ministerial changes.
In Australia that’s now a widely recognised standard measurement of time; useful as it fills the large gap between ‘day’ and ‘year’.
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Great work once again Heather.

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That’s a ripper mate!
She’s going to love this!
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Xantho’s doing fine thanks but -once again- since I’m spending all day at work on a computer, my motivation to sit in the study and post updates here is flagging behind actual progress. The basic hull is almost complete now but there have been some tricky bits….
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Great job Jeff! I think that might be your best yet.
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Outstanding!
I want to do something similar myself one day but doubt that it will come out this well.
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What a great thread!


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57 minutes ago, ColonelKrypton said:
So easily distracted; so many shiny objects, so many rabbits and squirrels to chase - oh look, there goes a rabbit now ........
cheers, Graham
Like I say… ‘Weirdo!’
(just kidding of course!)
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Actually I try my best to keep the workbench clean as I work but - unlike some weirdos - it does not come naturally to me.
The mess in this case is mostly the model itself. Some folks seem to manage to keep their projects looking ‘precise and crisp and engineered’ thoughout the build. I almost always end up with a stage where the model looks like it’s a cultivated fungus. Without bulk fillers and sanding and yet more fillers and sanding I doubt I would ever finish anything .
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Catching Up - Part 3. A messy bit.
I've just been through a stage in this build where everything has been a bit messy. Some modelers seem to be able avoid making a mess when building but I've never been able to. I work on the principle that you can make as much mess as you like / need to make as long as you can tidy it up at some stage before the model is finished. Consequently, my projects tend to have a few 'messy bits' in them. This is such a 'bit'.
Firstly the work on the bow was very ugly. These are some blocks of - otherwise absolutely beautiful - bass wood stuck on in a most unattractive hodge-podge waiting to be carved and sanded to something resembling the correct shape.
For example, after some very rough handling, I had this.
Which demanded a tonne of bog-filler to cover the gaps and holes and so-forth.
Then I moved to the stern where I glued on the quarter-deck, before…
Hacking away at the stern area and gluing on some strategically placed brass sheet to try to preserve some of the sharp angles in the counter.
And then beefing up the relevant bits and pieces with more blocks of Paulownia wood.
And then hacking them into shape with chisels, files and sanding paper.
Not content with that amount of mess I sprayed the whole thing (except the decks) with another coat of high-build automotive primer paint, inspected the result then filled the many large imperfections with 'multifill wood-filler' (basically plastic wood), and sanded, sanded, sanded to make this mess.
After another couple of prime, inspect, fill, sand sequences I got right down to this...
Which is still looking pretty messy.
After yet another coat of primer I felt that the hull was smooth enough to change to 'Vallejo' putty and then proceeded to make… yet another mess.
Which after a more thorough clean up, and yet another layer of primer, left this...
Actually I lie! Now that I look at this photo I notice that there's still some quite rough spots here and there so this particular photo was taken prior to the final sanding. The actual thing looks quite a bit smoother than this I promise.
Anyway, in reality it is starting to look a little bit less like a complete mess and more like a proper little ship. I promise that the next post will send us back deep in the direction of 'mess'.
Till then,
Stay safe.
Bandsaw Steve!
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Wow! Thanks! That’s a great answer. I have definitely hit my ‘learn something every day’ target today.
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She’s looking great!
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5 hours ago, ShipbuilderMN said:
As for the funnel grill, I doubt very much if the Knight Templar had one. It seemed to be a fitting confined to warships, and I have no idea what its purpose was. It would certainly not stop a bomb or a shell going down! I sailed in 19 merchant ships and none of them had funnel grills, and I have never seen any on detailed plans of merchant ships.
Interesting!
I too have often wondered what they are for. They must be useful for something as nearly every warship seems to have one. If anyone knows please sing out.
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I Love what you are doing on this one!
I particularly like what you have done with the plating. I have to make a similar ‘to plate or not to plate’ decision on Xantho soon and you are pushing me in the ‘have a crack at it’ direction.
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Hang on….
Woodwork? One of the the little tags on this thread’s heading reads ‘oob’
What’s going on?
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Indeed I would be!

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Yes it has.
My old shed used to leak a lot and tended to be a little dank so some of my older tools started to get a bit of surface discolouration. Then they spent six months on the patio under a tarpaulin while the new shed was built. Several of them came out looking much worse. I’m slowly going through the collection and repairing or replacing as required.
New Stanley blades just jumped to the top of the list.
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Catching up - Part 2
I'm still making pretty good progress on this project but must admit that I'm failing somewhat in my promise to keep this thread up to date, mostly because I'm really enjoying my time in the shed at the moment and am sinking any spare time into building Xantho rather than updating this narrative. Sorry about that folks.
Anyway - this should be quick. There's nothing fancy to write about here, its all fairly straightforward stuff. The main thing to note is that there is no way that I'm brave enough to try to 'plank on frame' this hull and besides, since Xantho was made of iron, there's absolutely no requirement anyway.
Here's where we were at the end of the last construction post.
I spent some money on a balsa plank (it's not cheap) and have started filling in the gaps between the paulonia skeleton. It's a pretty simple process and being so soft the balsa just squeezes into place and sits there with a nice friction fit. The blue goo is not really doing much in reality. I used to shun balsa, but now I'm finding more and more uses for the stuff.
Any surplus balsa gets trimmed off and re-used. Like I say, it's expensive.
Whittle any surplus off.
More whittling - this time around the bow.
Use the pre-cut decking (and of course the skeleton itself) to ensure that the balsa is whittled back close to the correct profile.
Use a scoop chisel to get into some of the trickier bits where the shape is changing quickly.
Trim any excessively high bits off the top of the decks.
Use a rasp to start working toward the final profile. At this point I realized that I should have painted the outside edges of the skeletal frame red so as to be sure that I was not rasping away any of the basic structural frame. I will know for next time.
Very coarse sandpaper - about 120 grit - can also be used to shape balsa quite effectively.
And here is the hull that results.
As you can see nothing much has been done with the bow or the stern yet. That can be the next post.
Stay safe and best regards,
Bandsaw Steve
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That’s exquisite!
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Beautiful!

In my opinion the best looking car ever made.I really enjoyed seeing this. Thanks for posting.
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Thank you!
Unfortunately my knowledge of German is practically nil. I studied it once at University but did not do well, so I greatly appreciate your summary.
It’s really interesting to get a more in-depth view of the engineering details that make this system so well regarded. The air gun ‘shooting’ the ammunition into place is fascinating as is seeing the action of the automatic loader.
I’ve heard that even quite recently the Australian gunners preferred PZH 2000 above any other SPG but the government chose the K9 Thunder, presumably for political and cost reasons.
BTW - I was interested to see someone has an even bigger PZH 2000 model than mine!
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Looking good. With the single tall red funnel she reminds me a lot of my Carpathia project.
Happy days.
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That’s a good point you make about the somewhat variable quality of small sea-going vessels, even in the modern era. It make’s me even more comfortable with the idea of a mis-sized prop.
As for the 1.83cm; that’s a six foot propellor as represented in 1/100 scale. Not the actual size of the propellor itself.
Am I going to make one? Not sure. I’m certainly going to need one. So I’ll either make it by hand somehow, buy one or 3D print. Time will tell.
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Halcyon Alien Space Jockey TheB version
in Work In Progress - SF & RealSpace
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Looks ambitious!