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    I don't know how to say this without upsetting some people but the record needs to be put straight. R6690 is not PR-Q, it never was. Someone saw a photo of R6637 PR-Q and thought it was R6690. R6637 PR-Q was Appleby's machine. R6690 was PR-A. All you have to do to fix the model above is paint the serial number to R6637. I have evidence to back up my claim. You can easily look this evidence up yourself online. The facts are we know Dundas was flying R6690 on the 13th August 1940. What is in dispute is what squadron code that plane bore. Look up a photo of the 609 blackboard that recorded all the 609 pilot claims that was taken on the 13 August after the battle. The plane squadron code is writen before the pilots name. an "A" is recorded before Dundas name. If you disregard this then why is the reproduction Spitfire of Dundas plane outside Yorkshire Aircraft Museum sporting a PR-A? The correct information needs to be preserved for properity. If you wish to contact me about this matter or discuss my evidence please email me at [email protected]

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    If you look at this photo of Spitfire Mk I L1065 which my grandfather flew on 13th August 1940 during one of the most epic dogfights of the Battle of Britain, Adlertag (Eagle Day) where while over Lyme Bay he claimed his 2nd confirmed Destroyed shooting down a Junkers 87B and Damaging a Me 110C and again flying L1065 PR-E the following day the 14th August 1940 he claimed his 3rd confirmed Destroyed shooting down a Junkers 88A over Boscombe Down. Notice the light coloured square patch near the the starboard wing tip. That is a gas detection panel and they were normally painted yellow. On latter Spitfire models the gas detection panel moved much closer to the fuselage, was more central and was diamond shaped. But on earlier models was situated where you can clearly see it in this picture.

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  3. I've just finished these, the second trio of Airfix's Spitfire I's from my stash built to utilise a couple of the schemes on the new Xtradecal Battle of Britain 75th Anniversary Spitfires transfer sheet X72224 here and one from the Southern Expo 70th Anniversary sheet.

    The first is a Spitfire I, L1027 LOoA of 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron - as you can tell from the serial the aircraft is an early one, but I believe that (at least some and probably all of) the original 602 Squadron Spitfires were refitted to 1a standards in May 1940 - L1027 is portrayed in August when they were based at Westhampnett, one of Tangmere's satellite stations. L1027 carried a cartoon of a flying toilet as its nose art (and had an unflattering nickname to match... there is a fine photo of the artwork and a brief story of L1027 in Douglas McRoberts' book on 602 Squadron "Lions Rampant"). Ellis Aries flew it to shoot down a Do17 on 26 August and Nigel Rose was shot down and wounded by a Bf110 while flying it on 11 September. It was subsequently repaired/rebuilt and went to 53 OTU, stalled and crash-landed at Llandow on 28 September 1941 and was struck off charge a few days later. Anyway here is my representation of "The Flying Outhouse"*

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    ... and here is a close-up - or at least as close as I could get - of the flying toilet cartoon with the motto "Izal get you!" on the scroll beneath...

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    * Yes, the nickname wasn't actually 'The Flying Outhouse', I leave it to your imagination to guess what the correct word was.

    The second is a Spitfire Ia R6835 of 603 (City of Edinburgh) Squadron flown by Flying Officer Brian Carbury from RAF Hornchurch in August 1940 - on 31st August he was flying this aircraft when over the course of three flights he claimed two He111s and three Bf109s before being wounded by splinters when R6835 took a cannon shell in the oxygen tank which exploded. FO Carbury managed to nurse it back to Hornchurch and landed without further damage. R6835 was repaired and served with a series of training units, ending its days (as far as I can tell) at Henstridge, Somerset, in July 1944. Here is my representation of R6835 during her own 'Finest Hour' in August 1940...

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    The third and final model represents Spitfire Ia R6691, PRoJ of 609 (West Riding) Squadron flown by Flight Lieutenant Frank Howell based at RAF Warmwell in August 1940. On 13 August Flt Lt Howell claimed 2 Ju87s whilst flying R6691. R6691 later served with 616 (South Yorkshire) Squadron and 602 (City of Glasgow) Squadron so she was a true Auxiliary bird. She was struck off charge on 31 March 1943.

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    As noted these are all built from the Airfix 2011 tooling of the Spitfire Ia which goes together very nicely. There is a rather long and winding WiP thread here if you are interested in the details of the builds (as well as a whole bunch of unrelated trivia :D) and the RFI thread for the first three Spitfires is here...

    The kits were mostly built OOB with the following additions/replacements: Eduard micro-fabric seat harnesses and canopy mask sets and SBS Models resin Spitfire I exhausts and EZ-line aerial wire; the paints used were a custom mix of interior green and Phoenix Precision Paints Dark Earth, Dark Green and Sky - the Sky and Dark Earth applied by airbrush and the disruptive pattern of Dark Green brush-painted. The transfers as for 602 and 609 Squadrons were by Xtradecal and the 603 Squadron markings from the Southern Expo 'Hornchurch vs the Luftwaffe' set. The Xtradecal fuselage roundel centres were slightly off-register which was surprising and annoying, I have never had any issues with them before and I hope never to again, The Southern Expo decals although 5 years old now performed well.

    Um, I think that's about it. Well done if you managed to wade through that ocean of text :lol:

    Cheers,

    Stew

    My grandfather was Spitfire Ace of the Battle of Britain 609 pilot Sgt. Alan Norman FEARY (742301). I love the model you are working on in the photos, R6691 (PR-J), the work is so detailed and the look so authentic. Sgt. Alan Norman FEARY on the 25-08-40 over Wareham flying Spitfire Mk I R6691 (PR-J), Destroyed a Messerschmitt 110C and Damaged another. Although the plane was predominantly F/Lt Frank J. Howell's, the necessity of the war made it so in reality no one pilot could really have their own plane. In the photo of F/Lt Frank J. Howell, if the stars painted on the fuselage represent confirmed Destroyed then one of those stars may belong to my grandfather for his confirmed Destroyed on the 25th August 1940. Anyone interested in my grandfather's RAF service and legacy is welcome to visit his Facebook page; Sgt. Alan Norman FEARY, Spitfire Ace, RAF 609 (West Riding) Squadron...

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/alanfeary/

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  4. Hutch - yes, I saw your original request a while back but did not respond as I could not find a definite code. I don't have access to the squadron's logbooks, but I found a few excerpts from them by doing online searches.

    There is FilePhotoService in the UK that can provide you with digital copies of materials from the National Archives, but there is a fee of course. There are no guarantees, as it has been pointed out to me most time logbook entries usually just have serial codes named but not the squadron codes.

    Best I can do for you is provide my working list of 609 codes. Compare them to the aircraft flying that day (or that week?) in question and eliminate the individual codes that N3231 could not be. Another approach is to find the aircraft serial that was damaged/destroyed a day or two before N331 arrived at 609, or conversely the aircraft that replaced Staples destroyed craft. It is possible they shared the same individual code.

    regards,

    Jack

    Supermarine Spitfire MkI

    K9815 609S 13-7-40 Pilot blinded by glycol fumes crash-landed Piddlehinton Dorset 26-7-40 SOC 1-8-40 FH286.15

    K9825 609S 13-7-40 FACA 14-7-40

    K9841 PR-R 609S 18-7-40 damaged ops 12-8-40 AST 12-8-40 609S 18-8-40 616S 25-8-40

    K9997 609S 4-6-40 damaged enemy action 12-8-40 7OTU 5-10-40

    L1007 609S 18-4-40 as proto MkIB 72S Drem shot down Heinkel over Scotland 1-40 ? Landed on top of L1085 on landing Drem 15-5-40 SOC CE 28-5-40

    L1008 PR-K 609S 8-6-40 RAE 6-40 pilot F/Lt J Dundas force-landed Glastonbury Sgt Hughes-Rees safe 25-9-40 C2

    L1058

    L1060

    L1063

    L1064

    L1065 PR-E and T 609S 6-9-39 7OTU 5-11-40 write-off sept.3 burst tyre on landing Ogilvie

    L1068 609S 6-9-39 FA 25-5-40

    L1069 609S 3-9-39 FTR after combat over Portland F/Lt Barran died 11-7-40

    L1071 609S 6-9-39 MMO 29-3-40

    L1081 609S 19-8-39 Missing while escorting Defiants over Dunkerque 31-5-40

    L1082 PR-A 609S 19-8-39 damaged by L1060 Drem 21-11-39 609S shot down by Bf110 nr Ryde IoW P/O Mamedoff safe 24-8-40 58OTU

    L1083 609S 29-8-39 54S 8-6-40

    L1084 609S 29-8-39 74S 9-5-40

    L1086 609S 29-8-39 crashed in bad visibility CE 30-5-40 SOC 7-6-40

    L1087 609S 27-8-39 Ditched in Channel during escort for Defiants to Dunkerque 31-5-40

    L1088 609S 29-8-39 MMO 18-9-39 610S damaged by L1074 16-10-3

    L1095 609S 6-9-39 P/O Mitchell missing into sea 11-7-40

    L1096 609S 7-9-39 AST 7-11-40 58OTU

    N3023 609S 8-9-39 shot down Weymouth Bay by Bf109 P/O Buchanan killed 27-7-40 FH219.05

    N3024 PR-H 609S 11-9-39 Missing off Sussex coast raid on Middle Wallop 14-8-40 F/O McD Goodwin missing

    N3025 609S 11-9-39 undershot landing Drem 19-3-40 SOC CE 13-5-40

    N3113 609S 10-8-40 C2 ops 30-9-40

    N3202 609S 16-4-40 FTR ops 31-5-40

    N3203 609S 25-4-40 damaged ops CB 17-7-40

    N3222 609S 25-4-40 Missing after attack on He111s nr Dunkerque 1-6-40

    N3223 PR-M 609S 25-4-40 u/c jam F/O Nowierski abandoned aircraft crashed nr Middle Wallop 5-10-40

    N3231 609S 28-9-40 shot down by Bf109 nr Sutton Waldron P/O Staples abandoned aircraft injured 7-10-40

    N3238 609S 28-9-40 shot down by Bf109 over Yeovil Sgt Feary abandoned aircraft killed 7-10-40

    N3270 609S 11-12-40 66S 'LZ-F' 24-2-41

    >N3280 234S 25-4-40 609S 5-9-40 C2 ops 25-9-40 AST 41S 20-10-40

    N3288 PR-S 609S 18-9-40 C2 ops 26-9-40

    P9322 PR-L online profile art/ 609S 8-6-40 damaged by Bf110 25-8-40 AST 61OTU 16-8-41

    P9427 609S 25-4-40 C2 ops 25-5-40 MMO 74S 21-8-40

    P9467 609S 4-6-40 C2 ops 12-7-40 1CRU 603S

    P9503 609S 26-9-40 Damaged by return fire from bomber P/O Baillon aircraft abandoned nr Upaven C3 27-10-40

    R6631 PR-Q 609S 16-8-40 Shot down by Bf109 on interception off Isle of Wight 28-11-40 FH93.10

    R6634 609S 4-6-40 Damaged by return fire from Ju88 and abandoned 5m off Swanage Dorset 18-7-40

    R6636 PR-F online profile art/ 609S 'PR-F' 4-6-40 shot down by Ju88 force-landed Studland Beach F/O Edge safe C2 18-7-40 SOC 26-7-40

    R6637 609S 'PR-Q' 4-6-40 Missing from interception off Portland Bill F/O Drummond-Hay killed 9-7-40

    R6690 PR-Q ? Osprey book/ PR-A.. online profile art/ALSO PR-Q 609S 'PR-A' 7-6-40 shot down by Bf110 over S London P/O Daunt killed 15-9-40

    R6691 PR-J 609S 7-6-40 C2 ops 25-9-40 AST 616S 10-11-40

    --R6692 PR-T AND K 609S 7-6-40 Overstressed attacking Ju88 CE 12-8-40 SOC 2-9-40

    R6699 PR-L 609S 7-6-40 C2 ops 25-9-40 AST

    R6706 74S 12-7-40 damaged by Bf109 28-7-40 609S 26-9-40 66S 24-2-41

    R6769 PR-D 609S 31-7-40 C2 night landing accident 2-9-40 AST

    R6915 PR-U and O 609S 'PR-U' 21-7-40 damaged by He111 force-landed White Waltham 7-9-40 damaged by He111 force-landed White Waltham 30-9-40 damaged by Bf109 force-landed F/O Dundas injured 7-10-40 602S 1-41

    R6922 PR-T 609S 15-8-40 FAC2 15-9-40 AST 92S 15-10-40

    R6961 PR-P 609S 13-8-40 61OTU 1-7-41

    R6977 PR-N 609S 22-7-40 64S 6-12-40

    R6979 609S 22-7-40 FACB 26-9-40

    R6986 PR-S 609S 28-7-40 611S 24-11-40

    X4107 PR-F 609S 16-8-40 air collision Bf110 nr Weybridge P/O R F G Miller killed C3 27-9-40

    X4165 PR-N 609S 16-8-40 66S 15-4-41

    X4173 609S 28-9-40 66S 24-2-41

    X4234 PR-B 609S 24-8-40 damaged combat P/O Staples safe 27-9-40 AST 66S 13-10-40

    X4331 609S 28-9-40 66S 24-2-41

    X4471 PR-R 609S 18-9-40 66S 24-2-41

    X4472 609S 18-9-40 C2 ops 8-10-40

    X4539 609S 29-9-40 66S 24-2-41

    X4560 PR-H 609S 2-10-40 C2 ops 8-11-40 GAL 123S 14-7-41

    X4586 609S 'PR-O' 8-10-40 Shot down by Bf109 SW of Isle of Wight 28-11-40 FH37.55 F/Lt J C Dundas DFC killed

    X4587 609S 8-10-40 66S 24-2-41

    X4588 609S 8-10-40 FAC3 2-12-40

    X4590 PR-F 609S 12-10-40 damaged 25-10-40

    X4598 609S 29-10-40 AST 2-2-41

    X4773 609S 9-1-41 57OTU 12-6-41

    X4778 609S DGRD 1-12-40 66S 24-2-41

    Supermarine Spitfire MkII

    P7292

    P7440

    P7490

    P7600

    P7625

    P7625

    P7668

    P7669

    P7671

    P7785

    P7830 / 50

    P7835

    P7835

    P7881

    P8032

    P8098 PR-Z online profile art/

    P8264 PR-H online profile art/

    I am the grandson of Spitfire Ace of the Battle of Britain, 609 Squadron Pilot Sgt. Alan Norman FEARY (742301). I am compiling a list of the 609 Squadron codes. I see how passionate you all are about this subject I was hoping for some help to discover the missing codes. The linked document lists the Serial Number of every Spitfire the 609 Squadron was issued during WWII with the corresponding known Squadron codes. The link supplied allows editing of the document so please be sure of your source before adding information to it and please don't remove information you consider incorrect, just add a comment why you think it is wrong and I will review the evidence. I am hoping with enough help to fill in the majority of missing codes. My grandfather died in Spitfire Mk IIa N3238 so I am particularly keen to learn that aircrafts Squadron code, I have been searching for it for quite a while now. Of course anyone that helps is more than welcome to use the document as a reference.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XLgwxBmu48kzU31bVP4xhbTlP7CvwLx4jWajeOEqDQQ/edit?usp=sharing .

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