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  1. How about "Lady be Good"? Pretty simple scheme and would be a great tribute to some courageous men.
  2. Finally had chance to review the SAM article. Paul Lucas clearly had done a lot of deep research on the origins and trials of the scheme but the article ends with the Singapore Vildebeests being marked in accordance with AMO A.154/39: Type B roundels on upper wings and fuselage, Type A roundels under the wings and MSG code letters on the fuselage. The article fails to address the different camouflage schemes we've discussed (at length/ad nauseam) on this thread. I'm also confused about the scope of this article. The title reads "The Tropical Sea Scheme and the Vildebeest 1935-1942". This article appears to cover the period 1935-1939 and yet it's identified as "Part 2". Was there a "Part 1" and what did it cover? Also, anyone know if there's a planned "Part 3"?
  3. Dear Mr Haselden - hope you don't mind me contacting you, but a while back I messaged you about pilots that may have flown a particular Buffalo (W8198) NF-U of 488 Squadron, and I cannot find the post any more, which is a pity.  I do know that John Mackenzie and Jim MacIntosh flew this aircraft, but was wondering if you knew of any other pilots that flew this particular a/c?  Unfortunately (and understandably!) the ORBS of 488 Squadron appear to have gone AWOL for that particular time period.


    Any help much appreciated.


    Kind regards


    Jonathan Hall

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    2. mhaselden




      Belay my last.  I found an old hard drive that has my Buffalo research on it.  I can't get to it until the weekend but I'll ping you once I've accessed it and confirmed that my data is present.


      Kind regards,



    3. mhaselden




      Apologies for the delay but here's the info I have about W8198:


      Joined 67 Sqn from 151 MU on 23 May 1941.  67 Sqn pilots who flew her included:

      Sgt Christiansen

      Sgt Beable

      Plt Off Simpson


      Transferred to 488 Sqn on 8 Oct 41.  488 Sqn pilots who flew her included:

      Flt Lt MacKenzie

      Sgt Clow

      Plt Off Farr

      Flt Lt Hutcheson

      Plt Off Oakden


      Hope this helps a little.

      Kind regards,


    4. Jonathan Hall

      Jonathan Hall

      Hi Mr Haselden


      Thank you very much - this helps a lot!  Don't know whether you remember, but I did contact you once to say that the BBMF Spitfire (P7530) was once flown by Colin Pinckney - the ORB for 603 Squadron (September 1940, I believe) does confirm this - if interested, you can access this online, but the online copy is pixelated - you would need to pay £3.50 for a clear copy to be e-mailed to you if you are a member.





  4. mhaselden

    Tse Tse Mosquito

    Maybe you just confirm to your friend that the Tse-Tse Mossie never flew with rockets. If he's still adamant that he wants the kit built with them, then proceed as instructed. However, I'd at least give him the benefit of making an informed decision first.
  5. That's exactly why I'm asking questions about the accuracy of those flight colour allocations. Available photos of 11 Sqn Brisfits aren't exactly common but it seems that the flight colour allocations described in Les Rogers' book work well for the period prior to March 1918 (ie when the Sqn was still wearing the 2 angled bar markings on the fuselage). The same cannot be said for aircraft photographed later. Some examples from the Rogers' book and online include: E2428 'Y' (Post-March 1918), light-toned wheel covers E2586 '6' (Post-March 1918), dark-toned wheel covers F6206 'X' (Post-March 1918), light-toned wheel covers Serial Not Known 'W' (Post-March 1918), light-toned wheel covers If these patterns are representative, then it appears that the colour white changed from being 1-6 to being U-Z. It's not clear how the change of flight colours (if that's what happened...I can't guarantee it from the relatively few available photos) might have impacted E2602. It is certainly possible that the wheel colours are blue (the same shade as the roundel) but it's equally possible, indeed perhaps more probable, that the wheel covers are standard PC10. Alas, I think we're in the realm of pure guesstimation...unless anyone has positive information one way or another. Kind regards, Mark
  6. Funnily enough I just ordered the Windsock Datafile Special #1, not least because it includes a photo of another Brisfit that my cousin flew. I'm definitely interested in making a model of E2602. I have the Eduard kit in the stash but it'll be at least 4 years before I get to it because the stash is in storage while I complete an overseas assignment. That said, the WNW kit does keep tempting me. I just worry that I'm not a good enough modeler to do it justice.
  7. Many thanks Paul. Since it's not visible on many photos, I wondered whether it was a sight or some other contraption (although a sight made most sense). I do appreciate your help with my seemingly endless stream of questions. Kind regards, Mark
  8. To paraphrase Monty Python,...this thread isn't dead yet!!! Thanks for the info, Ed. I'll need to look for the July 2019 SAM - that article would interest me greatly. That said, there's (sadly) still not s shred of evidence that any Far East 'Beests wore the pretty green and blue scheme on operations.
  9. Apologies for the continuing stream of questions but the first pic appears to show a dark-toned tube between the fuselage and the upper wing, just in front of the pilot's cockpit. Any thoughts on what that might be? A similar item is visible in this image: Is it a gun sight?
  10. I think what we're actually seeing is a standard Type A roundel suffering from some smoke damage (or something similar). The port underwing roundel is a standard Type A and I can't imagine a scenario where an aircraft would have a Type A roundel under the port wing but a Type B under the starboard. Note that the "grey" part of the roundel is the same shade as the wing underside. Also note that the "white" outer ring has dark areas that could easily be the remains of the original blue colour.
  11. Given the tonal similarity to the sides of the radiator, I'd suggest the brass panel is still in place. I don't see the grey fading that much even for relatively long-lived airframes like E2602. Thanks for your thoughts on the fuselage letter. I think I'll go with red just because it's more colourful (and nobody can tell me I'm wrong!). I'm guessing the serial would be repeated in white-outlined black numerals on the rudder. That certainly seems to be the case with most of the other 11 Sqn Brisfits I've seen.
  12. Ahhh...now I understand. Knowing what I'm looking for now, the dark stripe of the radiator side is visible in many Brisfit photos. The light-toned cowl front is rare, though. Like you, I'm still struggling to determine whether it's white or natural metal. Thanks for the info about the prop. Also, I fully agree with the wheels...it's really hard to tell and I'm trying very hard not to be guilty of wishful thinking...hence my preference for PC10 in the absence of compelling evidence one way or the other. Did you have any thoughts about the letter 'D'? I suspect the wartime white letter was overpainted with either red or black to provide a sort of 3D shadow effect. Any additional thoughts or ideas would be welcome. Kind regards, Mark
  13. Hi Paul, Concur the cowling ring may, indeed, be white and not natural metal. What are your thoughts about the darker stripe just aft of it? It's visible on all 3 images so I doubt that it's caused by damage from the crash. The more I look at the wheels, the more I think they're lighter-toned than the PC-10, perhaps more like the roundel blue shade. Then again, the wheel covers are a different shape to the slab-sides of the fuselage so you may be right and I could just be seeing a trick of the light. Kind regards, Mark
  14. Part of my confusion over the wheel covers lies in the contradictory info contained in "British Aviation Squadron Markings of WW1". According to the book, flight colours and individual aircraft letters/numbers were assigned as follows: A Flt: White, 1 thru 6 B Flt: Red, A thru G C Flt: Blue, U thru Z However, the book contains photos of W2428 'Y' and an unidentified airframe 'W' both with very pale wheel covers. Conversely, we have E2586 '6' with dark wheel covers. The pics that tally with the A Flt description above all show aircraft with the white bars either side of the fuselage roundel, whereas the pics of 'Y' and 'W' lack those markings. Perhaps the flight colours or individual letters/numbers changed at some time during the life of the squadron, maybe after the bar markings were removed in late March 1918?
  15. Thanks Paul. It looks like the lower cowling is a slightly different shade from the rest. Perhaps a replacement component or just a different batch of paint? Also, is the front ring of the cowl natural metal? There also appears to be a dark strip behind the "natural metal" cowl ring. Is that seen on other Brisfits? I found the bent propeller interesting. I presume it was made of laminated wood but it appears, for all the world, to be metal given the way it's bent. Finally, I'm guessing standard PC10 dope for the wheel covers. I've seen other pics of postwar 11 Sqn machines that show light-toned wheel covers (eg in "British Aviation Squadron Markings of WW1" there are pics of A7130, A7131, C4846 and E2428). Perhaps 11 Sqn used different coloured wheel covers to indicate the different flights? If so, it's possible the wheel covers on E2602 are blue but that's probably wishful thinking on my part and PC10 is more likely.
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