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Hello Phone Phixer, Fritag and Aarkvark Thank you all for your information and thoughts. Great information. I will do some more pictorial research based on your information now I have slightly better understanding on the possibilities. The GR1A fitted with ECM & Phimat pods sound interesting. Cheers Anthony

Hello Phone Phixer, Selwyn and Des Thank you all for your observations and very comprehensive replies. Your information confirms my fears. The Eilson picture is great and very interesting. I was surprised to learn that RAF Jags did not have the capacity as you pointed out it had been developed for the Jaguar International begun in 1974, and displayed at Farnborough from 1976 onwards. These images had stuck in my mind (I was still at primary school) and This photo from 1978 shows Jaguar XX766 from 226OCU was painted with Jaguar International titles for Farnborough Air Show. It is fitted with a Magic Overwing. https://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/Sepecat-Jaguar-GR1/1339646/L Sepecat Jaguar GR1 XX747 Paris Le Bourget June 16, 1979 https://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/Sepecat-Jaguar-GR1/575860/L This photo is from 1993 shows a white Sidewinder fitted to the overwing launcher. 6 Squadron Jaguar GR1A Royal Air Force RAF Mildenhall Air Fete - 1993 https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1276964 Phone Fixer, as an armourer you are surely best qualified to suggest a load out scheme for a 1970's -80's tactical scheme. A UK based squadron Jag carrying a commonly carried load, but interesting, for a low level training sortie. Please could you make some suggestions? What stores would you like to see under the wings? Many thanks to you all.

Hello Julien and jure I suspect you are right generally but there are a few photographs existing. It certainly seems to be uncommon which has made me look at alternative load outs. Here is one example. https://www.airliners.net/photo/UK-Air-Force/Sepecat-Jaguar-GR1/2633593?qsp=eJwtjT0OwlAMg6%2BCMrNVYugGFygDF4gSq/y/KAmCp6p3p6%2Bw2f4seyIpz8QnT9VAPQXY5UxbMnZ%2BBPUT3VDfxTVWahDOzZXHF/vSiuJ5qAtRTuxFYAn954MrvCGErINjO9g1CT/%2BXNesXsLu3FaEXWmevwjKMYo%3D Personally I think a few flew in this configuration even though they may not have been capable of fifing the missile. Jure is correct in that there is a picture captioned as described in the Squadron book. I am now looking at removing the overawing pylons and sourcing some practice bomb carriers for the outer pylons. Best regards A

Hello Jabba Thank you to the XZ109 info. Yes this is one of the airshow photos I think. Very helpful. I have now found two photographs of 41 Sqn with the overwing launcher. One is of XZ107H at Gilze Rijen AB May 1995. The second is unidentified. https://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69025 I believe most of the artic scheme photos are white paint over what was a completely grey camouflage, but to the previous tactical pattern. Cheers Anthony

Hello Jabba Thank you for your reply. I don't have that book yet. I have Aeroguide 31 and the Modellers Datafile, neither of which have single photo of the Dark Grey/Dark green with sidewinder overwing pylons. Please could you tell me the squadron, aircraft serial numbers and year so that I can research them specifically. If the pictures are are rare as hens teeth it make me think that it is such an unusual load out that it would not be representative of RAF usage. Best regards Anthony

Hello I would like to depict a Jaguar in the Green and Grey tactical scheme fitted with the overwing pylon with Sidewinder or practise round. However I have found only two photographs of this configuration, both from airshows in 1992 Wattisham and 1993 at Mildenhall. https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/search/270/?q=sepecat+jaguar&f=_all&exact=1&type=&registration=&operator=&code_number=&construction_number=&airport=&country=&photographer=&date_taken=&airshow=&military_unit=&information=&exact=1&search_type=simple Would this loadout be so unusual? I have seen photographs from farnborough from 1982 showing this configuration, but it may have been a dummy installation to boost sales. I don't know if any RAF squadron actually had the pylons fitted before OP GRANBY, when the all desert pink and OP Warden all grey camoflage schemes were implemented, and the Jaguars were upgraded to GR3. The photographic record would suggest that it is unusual but if anyone had any more knowledge about this subject I would be interested to hear their thoughts. Best regards A

Hello AMB I will definitely be looking out for a copy of your Warpaint book. I am always struggling to find good reference for the IR missile deflectors fitted to the Scouts, so I am hoping you have some material covering these. Here is the latest progress of my painting using the info kindly provided by dolphin38.

Thank you for such a superb high quality scan. The extra drawing of the tail shows it is white and carries a red cross. The tail is cut off on the single photograph I have so this is very useful information to have. You have helped make my painting more accurate. Best regards alawrence

Many thanks dolphin38. You are a star.

Hello Would anyone be able to help me. Ideally I would like a scan of the instructions showing the decal position for XT794 mentioned in the Model Art decals 72/036. I am currently working on a painting of XT794 and struggling to find any reference material. As a last gasp attempt I came looking here . I am trying to find out if there were any red cross making on the tail stabiliser. All the photo are in B&W and very poor quality. If anyone could scan their instruction sheet it would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Mike I managed to pick up a second hand copy of the After the Battle Book. You picture is not in it so I think I must have seen your picture elsewhere on this forum. There are so few colour photos from the falklands that your photo is quite unique. I have done some more work on the painting and revised the tail boom titles and now consider the painting finished. I visited the Army Air Corps Museum at Middle Wallop to see what photographs they had in the archive but I found only the well used images printed in most books and nothing new to me, so your photo is special. Best regards Anthony

Hello Mike Thank you for your kind comments and photo. I believe this image is in the After the Battle Book of the Falklands War. Is this correct? Best regards Anthony

Here is a painting I am currently trying to finish of Gazelle ZA730 of A Flight 3BAS in the closing hours of the Falklands War. I really liked the unusual SNEB rocket pods that added a pugnacious quality not associated with the glamorous form of the helicopter. I am struggling to confirm whether the rocket pods had the rear fairing fitted, as I have depicted, or without. The weapon was never used in action as it was felt to be too inaccurate. The gunsight consisted of a china graph cross penciled on the canopy. If anyone has any ideas I would love to hear from them and would be greatly appreciated. Most of the pictures I have seen were taken in Ascension, and are of both with and without the rear fairing. In theatre photos are very rare. This airframe is in line to be restored to flying condition by the Gazelle Helicopter Squadron. Best regards Anthony Lawrence

Lovely drawing Jonners. The thought of doing a wasp is always really appeals but the complicated undercarriage looks really daunting. The scout is so very simple in comparison. Yours looks great by the way and thank you for giving the breakdown on the mods you have made to create the earlier mark. You obviously know your subject and have found some good reference material. For the moment a wasp painting will have to remain on my to do list. Anthony

Hello Jonners Thank you for your kind comments, particularly coming from a helicopter pilot. I did the painting after meeting Richard's brother, Chris who lives just five minutes walk from my parents. Chris, a Royal Marine and himself a pilot was involved in the recapture and defence of South Georgia in April 1982, related to me the events of the 28th May, bringing the events to life and later also provided a short précis of Richard's life and some photos of the Blue Mountains. Chris really inspired the painting and since then I have had the great honour of meeting Richards Nunn's air gunner Sgt Bill Belcher MBE RM and wingman Major Jeffrey Niblett DFC RM as well as their commanding officer Lt Col Peter Cameron MC RM and Richard's nephew Adam. We talked about the painting and I was given more insights into the events. Sgt Bill Belcher had also painted XT629 and was responsible for painting out the white R on the nose with a 4 inch brush in 1982! We compared notes on our brushstrokes. In their 100+ years of aviation history, a number of Distinguished Flying Crosses have been awarded to Royal Marines. However, the Falklands campaign was the first time British light helicopters flew in support of full combat, rather than counter-insurgency, operations. The award of two DFCs to pilots flying as a pair is unique. Richards DFC is also the first posthumous award ever made, following a review of Honours and Awards in 1977. Ultimately this provided a very fitting title of the work which was suggested by Chris Nunn. Best regards Anthony