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  1. Hi Gonzo, I'm glad to help, though I admit there are still pieces of the story that I'd love to better understand. Thanks also for the kind comments on the Corsair books. Those are still the two most enjoyable projects I've ever worked on! Cheers, Dana
  2. On review, I think the folks at Minot did a great job matching the color, but I believe they misidentified what they found. Since no razorbacks were built after October 1944, I'm pretty sure they matched Republic's version of Dull Dark Green. "A rose by any other name..." they still did a beautiful job! Cheers, Dana
  3. Hi Tbolt, They're right that the first mention of Medium Green as an anti-glare color came in 1944, but that was in November of the year. Very few wartime production lines had switched to the color by V-J Day (older stocks of DDG had to be used up first) - but they seem to have evidence that at least one of the Republic lines made the switch. (News to me !) I'll be surprised if any earlier production used the color. Cheers, Dana
  4. Hi Gents, A bit of clarification here... In AAF tech orders, whenever two coats of zinc chromate were specified the second coat was always to be tinted. This allowed painters and inspectors to know how many coats had been applied. Erection and Maintenance manuals were written for field use, though they were frequently akso used on production lines. However, production lines really concentrated on the language of the contract, and even that could be ignored through negotiation between contractor and Wright Field. That bluish color in Republic-built P-47s w
  5. Hi ForestFan, I don't know if you found the LSP piece, but I didn't. Your cockpit color would depend on the date the original aircraft was manufactured - originally Bronze Green, with Dull Dark Green on later Grumman aircraft; originally Dull Dark Green, with Interior Green on later TBMs. All Avengers had an exterior coat of zinc chromate (yellow) before the finish coat of camouflage was applied. Cheers, Dana
  6. Hi all, Beyond the tech orders and specs, in early 1942 Wright Field gave North American Aviation an exemption from priming its California-built P-51s, AT-6s, and B-25s. The company didn't have the painting facilities to keep up with production needs. Primers served three purposes - corrosion control, static electricity reduction, surface preparation for finish coats. For P-51Bs this meant that you'd see very little interior color other than the natural (unpainted) aluminum. The cockpit was painted to reduce glare, and the faying surfaces for the fuselage structure were primed
  7. Hi Graham & all, I wish I had more evidence; I really wish I had proof, either way! This all came up years ago when the discussion pointed out that the Spits couldn't have been painted with Navy paint, since they were so much darker than the nearby Wildcats. Finding documentation that Wasp was one of two ships to experiment with Dark Blue only opened a possibility, one that I can't yet discount. Dark Blue was far more common than any of our secondary publications would suggest. Blue Gray was listed as a problem (too light) in December 1941. By the end
  8. There's a very strong possibility that the Spits that were repainted on board Wasp were repainted in US Navy paints. In early 1942 the Navy was investigating a color called Dark Blue as a replacement for its Blue Gray camouflage. The Navy was very sensitive about lighter-colored aircraft making their ships more visible to enemy aircraft - and those Spits were certainly lighter than the Navy wanted at the time. Dark Blue was an aircraft paint matched to - you guessed it - Deck Blue. Wasp was one of the two ships stocked with Dark Blue for evaluation. None of this proves that Dar
  9. Hi guys, They should have been red, but I'm sure there were exceptions. The revision to Spec 98-24105R of 20 September 1943 added the following note on radio call numbers for night fighters: "...except that the numbers for night-fighting aircraft shall be insignia red in accordance with color chip No. 45 of Bulletin No. 41." This note came into the spec at the same time that the OD scheme was approved instead of the flat black scheme. Cheers, Dana
  10. Hi Abandoned, US Senator "Scoop" Jackson (Washington state) porkbarreled a project to convert previously owned 747 airliners to military transports to be designated C-19s and assigned to the NY ANG at Stewart ANGB, New York. Jackson died before the project went too far, and the C-19 was cancelled. At the time, the unit was flying 2-seat Cessna O-2s which might have made the transition seem a bit extreme, but nearly all the pilots flew 747s for their civilian day jobs - not too much of a stretch. The unit eventually flew C-5s, so their Euro I camouflage and markings might have be
  11. Hi David, Since you specifically mentioned the 7th Phoyo Group, you might try to find a copy of their unit history: https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-Eighth-Photographic-Reconnaissance-1942-1945/dp/0964911906/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=eyes+of+the+eighth&qid=1614684590&sr=8-1 Cheers, Dana
  12. Hi Steve, I've not seen any really clear, well lit images of Streig's Corsair, but the little I've seen suggests he did fly with the 3rd camouflage variation - which is what your drawing shows. Intermediate Blue was a purple-blue color; the blue pigments faded rapidly, leading to numerous complaints from the field that the paint ended up looking pink. You've got plenty of room to plaay with the paints! Remember that the Semi-gloss Sea Blue portions of the wings would differ between the lacquers (metal skin) and dopes (fabric), and that the fabric extended all the way
  13. Hi Steve, Have you chosen which individual airframe you want to model? There are three major variations of the four-toned scheme for F4U-1As, plus a handful of minor variations - most of the schemes aren't properly identified in publications. If you post your choice here we can toss you a few hints about what you're trying to recreate. Cheers, Dana
  14. Through WW2 the US military used three different colors for radial engine crank cases. The main color was the Engine Gray noted in the previous posts. This was the Navy's 1930s color standardized as the ANA shade in 1938. In mid-1943 the ANA members also allowed manufacturers to use the Army's 3-1 color Dark Gray No.13. The third color was an earlier Army color, but just now I can't locate the memos discussing its use. I seem to recall that it was 3-1 color Blue Gray No.12, but I'd feel better recommending this if I could put my hands on the documentation. Cheers,
  15. Hi Victor, If you drop me a note at my e-mail address (danabell@earthlink.net) I'll send you some pix of Dark Gull Gray/White Kingfishers. There were plenty of them assigned to East Coast inshore patrol squadrons. Just a note - while modelers commonly refer to these schemes as "Atlantic" schemes, they were officially ASW Scheme 1 and ASW Scheme 2. While most often seen on Atlantic-based squadrons, they were also carried by a few rarely seen Pacific-based units. (Most Pacific units flew varied missions, and the schemes were not designed for use where enemy aircraft mi
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