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  1. I have a sneaking suspicion that you could very well be right. At a guess they could very well have been black or a similarly dark colour- the last 2 photos in my previous post seem to show the rail as darker than the 1st photo in that post. I'll keep digging for more evidence. Interestingly, from 52:50 onwards in this colour footage, it appears to show the parachute pack rising above the frame of the seat pan. Might it be possible that the parachute pack is resting on a cushion? The initial photo on the post that's linked below seems to show a cushion as well: Best wishes, Sam Edit: Additional photos can be found on this site which point to light coloured/yellow handrails (in particular the colour image 2/3rds of the way down the page with the flight engineer leaning backwards): https://www.ordinarycrew.co.uk/the-avro-lancaster
  2. Hi Pete, Many thanks for the observations- I really appreciate it! The fire extinguishers should be an easy fix, so I can get those done relatively quickly. As for the seat pack, I suspect this might be more challenging to address. The Blu Tack used to make up the bulk of the pack has been superglued into the seat and the belts added on top. To remove the pack would involve scraping away at the seat to dig out the Blu Tack and I have a feeling the seat may get rather damaged in the process (likely from handling alone). I'm afraid I will have to keep that as it is. I have been digging through a few references with regards to the handrail, and I've come across some sources that seem to show the handrail in place during wartime operations. From "Lancaster" by M. Garbett and B. Goulding: The above photos (albeit only one is dated- 1944) suggest the presence of the handrail leading down into the bomb aimer's position. I'm very amenable if there are photos or additional evidence suggesting it wasn't present earlier in its service life. There's a good thread here with some photos (one from 1943, I gather) showing the handrail in place: Best wishes, Sam
  3. And there's plenty more detail to come! Today it's the turn of the nose area to get some more detail: That's pretty much all of the major wiring looms added onto the starboard wall, forward of the main spar. The flight engineer's headrest and mounting has been added (made from plasticard and wire), along with a few more wires. I'm very happy with how this is turning out- the port fuselage wall. I couldn't resist adding the navigator's and pilot's seats. Also of note are the electrical equipment boxes underneath the navigator's table. While I'm not sure what exactly they are for, once I'd noticed them they had to be added! (Whoops, just noticed a bit of wet glue still on the pilot's raised flooring. That needs clearing up) Just in case a reminder was needed of the scale that we're working with... That's it for now- progress continues! Best wishes, Sam
  4. Hi everyone, Finally, we're not that far away from the point where the fuselage can be closed up! The main tasks to get done will be adding in the final details/wiring, maybe getting the mid-upper turret built and test-fitted, removing the interior window masks, taking some last reference photos of the interior, and finally closing up. But for now, here are some photos of the interior so far: You can see the engineer's seat having been folded up against the starboard wall (needs a gloss coat to represent the leather material). The bomb aimer's parachute pack, the bomb camera, the bombing computer, cushion, and bomb sight have all been added in. So that's it for now, thanks for having a look! See you soon, Sam
  5. Morning all! Another short update from me. More progress has been made on the fuselage walls and I have been adding the various wiring bundles that crisscross the aircraft. The hand-rail leading down into the bomb aimer's position from Eduard just wasn't up to scratch, so I've had a go at making it with sections of wiring. (Note the bomb aimer's cushion) I also replaced the rather "blocky" bomb sight's mounting brackets, that were found on the kit part, with some thin sections of plasticard. Short sections of wire were used to build up the mount for the camera. Until next time! Sam
  6. Morning all! Just another update from me. To have bit of a break from detailing the fuselage sides, I have had a go at adding a bit of colour to some of the more prominent items: First, the tiny F24 bomb camera: (Some fantastic information (and images) of the bomb aimer's position and the F24 camera can be found in this video) Next, the crew rest bed: (A coat of gloss varnish was used on the dark green aspect to make it appear a bit more like leather) Then onto the wireless operator/navigator's table: (Note the morse key) And the navigator's seat: Talking of seats.... : The yellow circle was exceptionally fiddly, and had to be sprayed on. I drilled a suitably sized hole in a thin piece of plasticard, and superglued this to the headrest. After spraying, the plasticard was removed and the "damage" painted over with black- I think it's turned out surprisingly well. And finally, a little bit more work on the wireless operator's position: So that's it for now. Broadly, the next steps are going to be detailing up the fuselage sides further until they can be sprayed with green. Only then will I look at picking out details and adding in the larger coloured photo-etch parts. There's a way to go but we're making progress! Thanks for dropping by, Sam
  7. Just a bit of an update... I've been working on the pilot's seat (and have decided on going for the black seat/armour, and the black fuselage in front of the navigator's position, combination)... it was all going so well. After using Blu Tack to build up the pan and back portion, I tried to use the Kits World seat belt decals: Clearly the belt is way too big for the seat. Either Eduard has made a catastrophic error with the seat dimensions (unlikely), either I have made a terrible mistake (quite possible), or the decals are sized incorrectly. Based on my experience, it seems as though despite being advertised as 1:72 scale (see below), the Kits World decals would be best suited on a 1:48 model perhaps? Has anyone had similar experiences? The kit seat is almost the same size as Eduard's in terms of height, it would seem. Still, I tried to cut, chop, and change the decals and ended with something that could be passable: (?) (Apologies for the lighting- having to rely on artificial light) Best wishes, Sam
  8. Well it's been a jolly long time since I've provided an update- or indeed had any time to do some modelling. But, finally, progress resumes! First up (to get back into the swing of things) is the crew rest station: And the storage area just behind the rest station: Probably the most deceptively simple items to be built for this project- the rest bed, all made from plasticard. The rest bed roughly in its final position. I'll probably rotate it around by 180 degrees (not a fan of the slightly uneven supporting structure on this side). The hydraulic oil reservoir, which will be positioned on the port side, in the arch of the forward main spar (paintwork needs refining a bit too). You can get a good sense of the scale that we're working at- the two emergency air bottles to be fitted to the starboard side, just above the step leading to the radio operator's position. The pilot's seat, courtesy of Eduard photo-etch. I'm going to have to build up the arm rests, seat pan, and back rest with some Blu Tack. And, finally, some work on the starboard fuselage side- with detail being built up either side of the forward main spar. The "bottle" on the left is the Graviner hand fire extinguisher, and the "bottle" on the right is the portable oxygen bottle. That's it for now- thank you for your comments (and patience) over these past few weeks! See you soon, Sam
  9. A belated hello everyone! I really appreciate your kind comments, and thank you so much for your patience as well. The past few weeks have been a little bit hectic. Despite my initial assertions and promises, I haven't been able to move any of my modelling equipment and tools over to my current location. Alas, I also have not had the spare time to devote to this project- spending the vast majority of my time either on placement or catching up on work. With that being said, I do have a period of time available after the next 2 weeks which should allow for some good progress with the Lancaster. But apologies, nevertheless, for the radio-silence. I also could not let today go without mentioning that this evening, some 79 years ago, the Badge crew set off from Nottinghamshire, bound for Turin. Unfortunately, their mission was to end prematurely. Hopefully in the near future I'll be able to resume progress on this project. So until then, thank you for your patience. Best wishes, Sam
  10. Afternoon all, me again! I think the photos mainly speak for themselves, but plenty more detailing has been going on since my last post- with the master compass, more side panel details, wiring, piping, axe, shelving, a parachute pack, and the Elsan toilet (of course) having been fitted. The master compass is seen protected behind the yellow framing. Also of note: to the right of the door (aft) you can see the dipsticks in their rack, and to the left (forward) you can see a parachute pack, with a fire extinguisher to the left of that. Still plenty more detailing to be done, and plenty more weathering too (although this aircraft flew relatively few missions, I still want to give the impression of it being a somewhat lived-in aircraft. Also of note, the ammunition feed tracks had their links added by brushing thin lines of black along the Tamiya tape surface. At this scale it's a little bit difficult to get everything perfect, so apologies about the variations in line thickness/direction. The flooring and steps need spraying so don't worry if their colour looks a bit temporary... Talking of flooring, I've decided to remove the Tamiya tape from the floor just behind the rear bomb bay bulkhead. I have yet to decide whether to leave it bare, or whether to mask and spray some of the dark grey/black flooring in its place. This was good fun: adding wiring looms with thicker wire, and producing end connector wiring with thin pieces of thread. Some of the paintwork needs cleaning up here. ...Which brings us up to today! The notorious rest bed has been built (not pictured here), and you can just see the headrest glued to the forward face of the rear main wing spar. So that's it for now. I've come to terms with the act that even the interior won't be completed before university starts again, which I think is fine- I would hate to rush this of all builds. Thanks again for having a look! Best wishes, Sam
  11. Hi everyone, Finally, we're at the stage where we can start adding some paint! You can see the turret ammunition tracks running just below the door, and the heating ducting pipe running above it. Tamiya tape has been used to mimic the .303 ammunition belts, and will be painted/scribed to further replicate the appearance of the real tracks. The flare chute, looking a bit better with some paint, alongside the grey rudder/elevator controls. And if you happen to be wondering if I went to the effort of cutting out the windows in the two doors and adding in transparencies with Clearfix... I'm afraid I did! Quite a tight fit- the width and height of the rear fuselage at this point would comfortably fit in the footprint of a 2 pence piece. And so, the work continues... The plasticard structure in the middle of the photo (with yellow wiring in the middle of it) is meant to represent the flap hydraulic jack. So that's it for now, and as always, thanks for dropping by! Best wishes, Sam
  12. Hi everyone, A bit of a short update from me, it's been a busy few days and it's very clear that I won't be able to get this build done before heading back to university. However, I will be taking some supplies with me to ensure that I can keep on working on this project! This is an attempt at the rear gunner's parachute mounted to the starboard fuselage wall- about 5.5mm in width at this scale! Next to it will be a portable oxygen bottle. The green horizontal wiring is meant to be the rudder and elevator controls. The thicker yellow wiring closer to the camera is a Graviner hand fire extinguisher. The body of the flare chute was made hollow, allowing depth to be provided when looking in from the outside. More updates to come over the remaining few days, but until then- have a great weekend! Best wishes, Sam
  13. Just a quick update today, with some work on the interior: The flare chute opening needs a bit of cleaning up but I'm very happy with its positioning. And every self respecting flare chute opening needs a flare chute, of course! The main chute body is made from plasticard, with the "cap" made from Blu Tack shaped and superglued in place. The base of the chute might look simple but it required a little of planning to get it right- the assembly leans forward (easy enough to do), but you then have to account for the interior vertical curve of the fuselage wall (a little bit trickier). Thankfully it fits quite nicely. Yes of course! Using the kit panel lines as a guide, I measured and marked on the positions of the rivet lines onto the fuselage sides. The rivet discs are from the Trumpeter riveting tool but the handle itself isn't great and leaves the disc wandering all over the place. So I take strips of Tamiya tape and "join the dots" to create the lines (ensuring there aren't any inappropriate bends in the tape). There are now 2 schools of thought (both of which I used): -1: draw a pencil line along the tape edge, remove the tape, and follow the line with the disc -2: follow the tape edge with the disc (a bit riskier but much quicker) For example, on a test piece that I'll be using to test the stressed skin techniques: Note: The lines on here aren't straight, only one line was done with the tape and the rest were done very quickly freehand. Also of note, the clear plastic circular piece underneath is purely for the test piece to give it a curved shape, normally I would be riveting straight onto the plastic. I hope that helps! Best wishes, Sam
  14. Hi everyone! Out of all the tasks planned for this build, adding the various "ribs" to the interior is not one that filled me with wild enthusiasm. And yet, some approximately ~900 ribs later, the fuselage ribbing has now been completed! A little bit of interior work has already been started on- with the floors, spar sections and wiring/cables on the walls being the initial targets. To aid with this I will be using the port fuselage half as the main canvas to which the floors, etc, will be attached to. As such, I've riveted and glued in place the port horizontal stabiliser. I couldn't resist a little bit of dry-fitting.... Note the bomb bay inspection windows in the rear bomb bay bulkhead- these will be filled with Clearfix when complete. Starting back and working forwards, I couldn't help but notice the flare chute assembly and the corresponding hole in the rear port fuselage (something which I hadn't noticed before but is now glaringly obvious!). As I'm slightly cautious about copyright with more recent photos, I will try to describe where the chute seems to be in each photo: Photo 1: Rear of the H2S blanking plate are the 3 identification lights. Slightly rear of the last light, and towards the port side of the fuselage is a rectangular hole- presumably this is the opening for the flare chute. Photo 2: Much clearer to see, the rectangular hole can easily be seen between the blanking plate and tail wheel, offset to the port side. Photo 3: The same opening can be seen just forward of the tail wheel. The kit parts show no such opening (or even the suggestion of one): Clearly the next job is to create an opening for the flare tube assembly! (Don't worry about the 3 black holes, seemingly drilled out. They're shallow depressions for the dipole aerial(?)) Talking of which, does anyone happen to have any clear photos of this ventral aerial assembly? Thanks again for dropping by! Best wishes, Sam
  15. I really appreciate those comments, and am glad to have helped out a tiny bit! I'll be eagerly following along and I am really looking forward to seeing more of your own fantastic work Best wishes, Sam
  16. Thank you everyone for your generous words! I can't say that any particularly exciting progress has happened in the past 3 days, but I have been working on the internal structure somewhat: The vertical "ribs" are all single strips of thicker plasticard, with each of the horizontal ribs being made individually from a thinner plasticard. At least with riveting there is some variation, but sadly not with this task. I would estimate this fuselage half has had approximately 500 of the horizontal ribs cut and glued in. I can't in all good faith suggest that the number of ribs is 100% accurate to the real thing (for example, I know there are fewer horizontal ribs in the rear fuselage than are represented here). But once all the internal detail, wiring, fixtures and fittings have been added, I hope that it shouldn't matter too much. It's not likely that the overwhelming majority of this will be seen when sealed-up anyway. Now for the other side.... Until next time! Best wishes, Sam
  17. Evening all! It's been a few days since the last update, and this build has been moving on in the background. With the rear and front turrets done for the time being, work started on the fuselage. As alluded to previously, the current plan will be to replicate the stressed skin appearance by scribing on panel lines, adding lines of rivets, then filling in the spaces with Mr Surfacer- (something which is demonstrated exceptionally well here by "viper_models"). However, I also plan to fully detail the interior. I figured that adding rivet lines on the fuselage and bending the parts as I went would disturb any interior detailing- so I resolved myself to cracking on with the task of riveting before even starting to detail the interior. (Note: the bomb bay, mid-lower blanking plate, and the formation lights are glued into one fuselage half- allowing the other to be removed while the interior is being built) (Note: the aperture for the bomb camera has also been drilled out- this will be filled in with ClearFix a finishing touch to the build) So with the rivets done for now, I moved onto the interior. Adding windows into the fuselage after all the detailing/painting had been finished would risk damage to the detailing and to the paintwork. Hence, the widows were added in quite early on at this stage. To prevent any paint over-spray, they've been masked from the outside with Eduard masks and from the inside with strips of Tamiya tape. The bomb bay was added in, alongside the cockpit flooring courtesy of Eduard, and a section of plasticard (appropriately riveted) for additional flooring. (Note: the green colour is just for the window framing, before the windows went in. I suspect it's a little too light so will use a slightly darker green when the time comes- although it will be rather dark in there anyway when it's all closed up) (Note: the inspection holes in the aft bomb-bay wall were drilled out- these will be filled with ClearFix as well) Now that the slightly mundane task of riveting (at least for the fuselage) has been done, I can now move onto detailing the interior! But it is at this point where I'm faced with a bit of a problem. There are many threads on Britmodeller questioning the interior colour of the Lancaster, its cockpit, and the bomb aimer's position. The consensus seems to be that early Lancasters had an entirely green interior, with some saying later Lancasters having the cockpit and bomb aimer's position painted black, and others saying everything in front of the forward wing spar was painted black. I'm torn between something along the lines of "Just Jane's" (NX611) interior (although she is a very late Lancaster indeed): link to 360 degree views of interior: the interior shots suggests black from the navigator's position onwards, or another option is to have just the bomb aimer's position black. On the question of the interior, although I've yet to find photographs confirming this, from the 1:48 Hong Kong Models Lancaster kit it would seem that there was a bed of some description between the front and rear wing spars (just beneath the foremost of the two ditching/escape hatches). Is there any veracity to this suggestion- as indicated with this build linked here ? Edit (1.6.22): Photo evidence of said bed here But until then, thanks for dropping by! Best wishes, Sam
  18. Hi, Whilst building the Airfix kit, another query cropped up. I'm relatively certain that ED412 was unlikely to have carried either the H2S radar, nor the FN-64 mid-lower turret, and so Airfix have helpfully provided a blanking plate/plug to fill the space that was left. On images of the BBMF Lancaster (PA474) it is easy to see the presence of said blanking plate- as can be seen here. However, I'm unsure as to whether this space, and indeed the blanking plate, would have been provided right from when production began. I only ask because some rather excellent builds of relatively new Lancaster kits show an absence of the space and any corresponding blanking plate- as evidenced here. Would ED412's fuselage likely have had a blanking plate, or would it have been a smooth rear fuselage? (Contemporary photographs of sufficient detail have so far made it a bit of a struggle trying to pin this down). Edit: There is this image from 1942 of R5689 (courtesy of Etienne du Plessis), which looks like it might have a blanking plate? (Although it is hard to tell): Thank you ever so much Jari for your help with clarifying the payload, and for linking to the telegram- it certainly makes for very interesting reading, and I really appreciate the time that you put into digging it out! Many thanks, and best wishes, Sam
  19. Apologies for the previous link, here is the link to your post about Vallejo --> I used the more expensive mixing options for Dark Earth and Dark Green, and they certainly look the part! Thank you so much for the mixing guides
  20. Hi everyone, As it turned out, the ClearFix did end up arriving (despite the shipping date having been pushed back to the end of this week- but still, I'm not complaining!). So with the help of the ClearFix, some superglue, and a splash of paint, the rear and nose turrets have finally been fully assembled: (The black dots on the rear of the turret are from dry-fitting the nose section together- these will be well hidden) I'll have to wait until the model is near the end stages to get a sense of whether the weathering effects "fit" the model or not. But for now, I'm happy with how they have both turned out. Also of note, the dark earth colour was custom-mixed based on the fantastic Vallejo mixing guides provided by @Casey -(link to guides here) Edit: Here is the link for the Vallejo guides, the above refers to Tamiya and Golden paints Thank you very much! It certainly looks that way- almost every photo I can find of a Lancaster around that time has a noticeable amount of chipping on the nose turret too. I have to confess that I'm somewhat nervous about the prospect of weathering the final model! Best wishes, Sam
  21. Hi everyone, After a bit of deliberation, and doing a bit of research into the photos of the rear turret linked to in my previous post, I've decided on the way to go. With the nose turret likely having unpainted/aluminium framing, and with previously linked photos (showing the rear turret's armour plating- now believed to be of R5740) showing such framing being present at least during September 1942, I will be trying to replicate that in this build. But before that, we need to add some framing. Many of the photos that I came across showed the FN-120 turret design. While this isn't too dissimilar to the FN-20 model that would have been used on this aircraft, there seem to be some differences that can be used to differentiate some references from each other. Armed with a few (hopefully) reliable references, work begins! As always, plasticard and wire used to add some detail to the turret. It wouldn't be an FN-20 turret if we didn't add the doors! And the pieces all ready to go- note the armour plate. All fitting together quite nicely. I have yet to glue the parts in place, and will have to add some of the support framing for the armour plate, but I'm very pleased with how it is coming together. As it turns out, the ClearFix will take another week to arrive so final assembly of the turrets will have to be paused slightly. However, there is one more turret to get started on in the meantime! This photo of R5740 was taken in September 1942, some 2 months after it was first delivered to 44 squadron (link to source). ED412 was delivered first to 57 squadron in December 1942 (link to source). While I can't be sure that ED412 would have had aluminium framing or armour plating (I'm very happy to be corrected if anyone has any information), I feel that at least when delivered she may very well have had this fitted. As for whether they would still be on the aircraft by July 1943... I am less sure. But in the absence of contrary information, I feel that this adds an extra level of interest to the build anyway. So that's it for now- thank you as always for dropping by. Best wishes, Sam
  22. Thank you @Wicksy and @TeaWeasel for your kind words! Work has begun (while awaiting the elusive bottle of Clearfix) on the FN-20 rear turret. Again, the kit parts form a good canvas on which to build upon: Not being one to shy away from scratchbuilding, I cut away the rear aspect of the turret glazing to make way for some scratchbuilt doors! Now, I come across a bit of a dilemma. The Airfix transparency has a hole on the front aspect of the glazing. While I'm sure this was present for some Lancasters, I'm less sure as to whether ED412 would have had a similar arrangement. Some of the reference photos show slight differences. For example, this photo from ~1943: (Source: Etienne du Plessis on Flickr) -This shows what appears to be a panel covering the hole which (slides/rotates???) upwards. -Note the tail warning radar(?) Or this photo from 1944: Edit: I'm not convinced this was from 1944. Information points to this being R5740, which was downed on 26th June 1943. (Source: Etienne du Plessis of Flickr) -This shows the opening, but now with armour plates below it Further, would the turret framing of the rear turret be similar to that of the nose FN-5 turret- in terms of colour? The images above suggest it to be painted, with other such images from earlier dates (~1942) show an unpainted/aluminium colour: (Source: Lancaster: Picture archive) -Although showing R5727, the pattern aircraft for Mk.X Lancasters, the framing of the rear turret does appear to be unpainted/aluminium in colour. On the subject of turrets, looking back at photos of FN-5 nose turrets, I can't now help but notice how the rear structure of said turrets appear to be painted brown (at least up to a certain level): (Source: Etienne du Plessis on Flickr) As such, I will be painting this onto the rear of the turret when it's finally glued together. Thanks for dropping by! Sam
  23. Hi, The front turret is really coming along now, as a splash of paint has been applied and we are almost ready to close up the turret behind its glazing/coaming. Ammo boxes on either side made from plasticard, as was the gunner's seat (which is swiveled rearwards and painted in green- although it's hard to pick out in this photo). Eduard masks helped for the turret coaming a great deal! Although, sadly, it's not the clearest transparency that I've come across... A dry fit of the turret coaming/glazing A dry fit of the turret parts, as they stand. So now, unless I discover some catastrophic error with the paintwork, I'll be gluing the parts together tomorrow- just awaiting on an order of Humrol Clearfix (which I must confess that I haven't used before). Many thanks for your kind comments, and for the invite! I suspect it might be best to keep this thread in one place, as though I would like to be finished by the end of June, I can't guarantee that'll be the case (keeping it here would prevent any potential bouncing between the two). Best wishes, Sam
  24. Hi everyone, Finally, it's time to start gluing some plastic! But before that, this is what I'll be using throughout this build: Firstly, the base kit- a 1:72 Airfix Lancaster courtesy of their BBMF boxing. A myriad of aftermarket pieces. The "Cookie" and assorted diorama pieces should come in very handy! As well as this tremendous book, which was very kindly suggested by @Troy Smith. To get back into the swing of things, and to refresh myself in working with PE and scratchbuilding, I decided to have a go at the FN-5 nose turret first. The kit parts make a good rendition of the turret but it's crying out for some extra scratchbuilding to make it more lively. Also note the resin gun barrels courtesy of QuickBoost. The result of a few hours working with Tamiya tape, plasticard, Eduard photo-etch parts, cut sections of wiring, and a lot of superglue! (A 2p coin for reference) There is plenty more detailing work that needs to be done prior to painting, yet it seems to be coming on nicely. I should add that some of the detailing is not 100% accurate (for example, there should be a raised inner "step" towards the inside of the turret base, however I felt this would have been slightly beyond my reach). I have yet to find many images of the rear of an FN-5 turret- that is, images looking from within towards the inside of the rear turret casing. However, I shall keep trying! Thanks again for dropping by, Sam
  25. Thank you for your kind comments! It will definitely be something that I will have to pay attention to and decide which direction I want to go down. From the comments (and photos) in this thread, it seems that having the engine worked on while bombing up was a rarity but not an impossibility. However, I would agree that having the crew ready and waiting might be a bit of a push. As I have yet to buy any figures or a base, there's still time to decide and we'll see how the build progresses! Many thanks, and all the best,
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