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  1. Hi, Whilst building the Airfix kit, another query cropped up. I'm relatively certain that ED412 was unlikely to have carried either the H2S radar, nor the FN-64 mid-lower turret, and so Airfix have helpfully provided a blanking plate/plug to fill the space that was left. On images of the BBMF Lancaster (PA474) it is easy to see the presence of said blanking plate- as can be seen here. However, I'm unsure as to whether this space, and indeed the blanking plate, would have been provided right from when production began. I only ask because some rather excellent builds of relatively new Lancaster kits show an absence of the space and any corresponding blanking plate- as evidenced here. Would ED412's fuselage likely have had a blanking plate, or would it have been a smooth rear fuselage? (Contemporary photographs of sufficient detail have so far made it a bit of a struggle trying to pin this down). Edit: There is this image from 1942 of R5689 (courtesy of Etienne du Plessis), which looks like it might have a blanking plate? (Although it is hard to tell): Thank you ever so much Jari for your help with clarifying the payload, and for linking to the telegram- it certainly makes for very interesting reading, and I really appreciate the time that you put into digging it out! Many thanks, and best wishes, Sam
  2. Apologies for the previous link, here is the link to your post about Vallejo --> I used the more expensive mixing options for Dark Earth and Dark Green, and they certainly look the part! Thank you so much for the mixing guides
  3. Hi everyone, As it turned out, the ClearFix did end up arriving (despite the shipping date having been pushed back to the end of this week- but still, I'm not complaining!). So with the help of the ClearFix, some superglue, and a splash of paint, the rear and nose turrets have finally been fully assembled: (The black dots on the rear of the turret are from dry-fitting the nose section together- these will be well hidden) I'll have to wait until the model is near the end stages to get a sense of whether the weathering effects "fit" the model or not. But for now, I'm happy with how they have both turned out. Also of note, the dark earth colour was custom-mixed based on the fantastic Vallejo mixing guides provided by @Casey -(link to guides here) Edit: Here is the link for the Vallejo guides, the above refers to Tamiya and Golden paints Thank you very much! It certainly looks that way- almost every photo I can find of a Lancaster around that time has a noticeable amount of chipping on the nose turret too. I have to confess that I'm somewhat nervous about the prospect of weathering the final model! Best wishes, Sam
  4. Hi everyone, After a bit of deliberation, and doing a bit of research into the photos of the rear turret linked to in my previous post, I've decided on the way to go. With the nose turret likely having unpainted/aluminium framing, and with previously linked photos (showing the rear turret's armour plating- now believed to be of R5740) showing such framing being present at least during September 1942, I will be trying to replicate that in this build. But before that, we need to add some framing. Many of the photos that I came across showed the FN-120 turret design. While this isn't too dissimilar to the FN-20 model that would have been used on this aircraft, there seem to be some differences that can be used to differentiate some references from each other. Armed with a few (hopefully) reliable references, work begins! As always, plasticard and wire used to add some detail to the turret. It wouldn't be an FN-20 turret if we didn't add the doors! And the pieces all ready to go- note the armour plate. All fitting together quite nicely. I have yet to glue the parts in place, and will have to add some of the support framing for the armour plate, but I'm very pleased with how it is coming together. As it turns out, the ClearFix will take another week to arrive so final assembly of the turrets will have to be paused slightly. However, there is one more turret to get started on in the meantime! This photo of R5740 was taken in September 1942, some 2 months after it was first delivered to 44 squadron (link to source). ED412 was delivered first to 57 squadron in December 1942 (link to source). While I can't be sure that ED412 would have had aluminium framing or armour plating (I'm very happy to be corrected if anyone has any information), I feel that at least when delivered she may very well have had this fitted. As for whether they would still be on the aircraft by July 1943... I am less sure. But in the absence of contrary information, I feel that this adds an extra level of interest to the build anyway. So that's it for now- thank you as always for dropping by. Best wishes, Sam
  5. Thank you @Wicksy and @TeaWeasel for your kind words! Work has begun (while awaiting the elusive bottle of Clearfix) on the FN-20 rear turret. Again, the kit parts form a good canvas on which to build upon: Not being one to shy away from scratchbuilding, I cut away the rear aspect of the turret glazing to make way for some scratchbuilt doors! Now, I come across a bit of a dilemma. The Airfix transparency has a hole on the front aspect of the glazing. While I'm sure this was present for some Lancasters, I'm less sure as to whether ED412 would have had a similar arrangement. Some of the reference photos show slight differences. For example, this photo from ~1943: (Source: Etienne du Plessis on Flickr) -This shows what appears to be a panel covering the hole which (slides/rotates???) upwards. -Note the tail warning radar(?) Or this photo from 1944: Edit: I'm not convinced this was from 1944. Information points to this being R5740, which was downed on 26th June 1943. (Source: Etienne du Plessis of Flickr) -This shows the opening, but now with armour plates below it Further, would the turret framing of the rear turret be similar to that of the nose FN-5 turret- in terms of colour? The images above suggest it to be painted, with other such images from earlier dates (~1942) show an unpainted/aluminium colour: (Source: Lancaster: Picture archive) -Although showing R5727, the pattern aircraft for Mk.X Lancasters, the framing of the rear turret does appear to be unpainted/aluminium in colour. On the subject of turrets, looking back at photos of FN-5 nose turrets, I can't now help but notice how the rear structure of said turrets appear to be painted brown (at least up to a certain level): (Source: Etienne du Plessis on Flickr) As such, I will be painting this onto the rear of the turret when it's finally glued together. Thanks for dropping by! Sam
  6. Hi, The front turret is really coming along now, as a splash of paint has been applied and we are almost ready to close up the turret behind its glazing/coaming. Ammo boxes on either side made from plasticard, as was the gunner's seat (which is swiveled rearwards and painted in green- although it's hard to pick out in this photo). Eduard masks helped for the turret coaming a great deal! Although, sadly, it's not the clearest transparency that I've come across... A dry fit of the turret coaming/glazing A dry fit of the turret parts, as they stand. So now, unless I discover some catastrophic error with the paintwork, I'll be gluing the parts together tomorrow- just awaiting on an order of Humrol Clearfix (which I must confess that I haven't used before). Many thanks for your kind comments, and for the invite! I suspect it might be best to keep this thread in one place, as though I would like to be finished by the end of June, I can't guarantee that'll be the case (keeping it here would prevent any potential bouncing between the two). Best wishes, Sam
  7. Hi everyone, Finally, it's time to start gluing some plastic! But before that, this is what I'll be using throughout this build: Firstly, the base kit- a 1:72 Airfix Lancaster courtesy of their BBMF boxing. A myriad of aftermarket pieces. The "Cookie" and assorted diorama pieces should come in very handy! As well as this tremendous book, which was very kindly suggested by @Troy Smith. To get back into the swing of things, and to refresh myself in working with PE and scratchbuilding, I decided to have a go at the FN-5 nose turret first. The kit parts make a good rendition of the turret but it's crying out for some extra scratchbuilding to make it more lively. Also note the resin gun barrels courtesy of QuickBoost. The result of a few hours working with Tamiya tape, plasticard, Eduard photo-etch parts, cut sections of wiring, and a lot of superglue! (A 2p coin for reference) There is plenty more detailing work that needs to be done prior to painting, yet it seems to be coming on nicely. I should add that some of the detailing is not 100% accurate (for example, there should be a raised inner "step" towards the inside of the turret base, however I felt this would have been slightly beyond my reach). I have yet to find many images of the rear of an FN-5 turret- that is, images looking from within towards the inside of the rear turret casing. However, I shall keep trying! Thanks again for dropping by, Sam
  8. Thank you for your kind comments! It will definitely be something that I will have to pay attention to and decide which direction I want to go down. From the comments (and photos) in this thread, it seems that having the engine worked on while bombing up was a rarity but not an impossibility. However, I would agree that having the crew ready and waiting might be a bit of a push. As I have yet to buy any figures or a base, there's still time to decide and we'll see how the build progresses! Many thanks, and all the best,
  9. Good evening! Many thanks, as always, to everyone for their invaluable support and help in answering some of these dilemmas. As I now have some free time, I have created a build thread (which can be found here): I did come across the "loss card" for ED412, shown below: In terms of payload, it shows: -1x 4,000 H.C (presumably the "Cookie") -2x90x4 I.B (incendiaries) -3x8x30 I.B (incendiaries) Now, the 4000lbs "Cookie" I can understand, but I am having a spot of difficulty working out how the number of incendiaries that were carried. Would the above combinations have been solely contained within SBC's (small bomb containers)? And if so, how many would have been carried- the card seems to suggest 5 containers in total (but I could be wrong)? Best wishes, Sam
  10. "Semper Paratus" Remembering the "Badge crew" Lancaster B.1 - ED412 - EM-Q (12/13th July 1943) Crew of ED412 (Left to right) (Photos courtesy of Jim Wright, Drew MacIntyre and Mark Chandler) (Top row) Sgt Robert Wood- Flight Engineer- RAF(VR)- Age 21 F/S Ronald Oswald Charles ("Roc") Brett- RAAF- Age 27 Sgt James Arthur Spence- RAF(VR)- Age 21 Sgt Edward Higgins- Wireless Operator- RAF(VR)- Age 24 (Bottom row) Sgt Arthur Charles Wright- Observer (Air Bomber)- RAF(VR)- Age 32 P/O Horace Badge- Pilot- RAF(VR)- Age 20 Flt Lt Arthur Charles Jepps- Observer (Navigator)- RAF- Age 29 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi everyone, With the exams over, and the summer months providing a brief period of time in which I can resume a spot of modelling, I have decided to have a go at starting this long term project. Many years ago I picked up a 1:72 Airfix BBMF Collection set and built the two Spitfires that came with it. However, I never got around to building the Lancaster. Over a period of years and through my family becoming interested in researching our family history, I became more aware of my great uncle Horace Badge. And over recent weeks I started to delve more into the events of the 12th and 13th of July 1943, and the loss of the crew of Lancaster ED412. At the end of this project I would like to have made a suitably accurate representation of Lancaster ED412 alongside a written collection of Horace Badge's life, his service in the RAF, and the loss of the Badge crew over Switzerland in 1943. The 207 Squadron RAF History site (linked here) has provided a comprehensive account of the events surrounding the events of that evening, and I would suggest that anyone interested have a read of their information first. Lancaster ED412 and its crew set off from RAF Langar at 22:35 on Monday 12th July 1943 on a night raid to attack Turin, Italy. ED412 carried a 4000lbs "Cookie" alongside incendiary munitions. Following a route that took them over Lake Annecy in France, the formation encountered poor weather and some 100 aircraft crossed over into Swiss territory. Whether ED412 was hit by Swiss anti aircraft fire, or whether the aircraft fell victim to the poor weather encountered that night, is still up for debate. Regardless of the cause, the aircraft was seen to break through the clouds North of Lake Geneva and circle twice, before finally impacting Le Grammont at approximately one o'clock in the morning on the 13th of July 1943. One day I would like to visit the area and see both Le Grammont and the CWGC cemetery of St Martin's in Vevey. In the meantime, however, we were able to visit the International Bomber Command Centre in Lincoln, and locate Horace Badge's name on their wall of names (a surprisingly moving experience, and a place which I will happily encourage you to visit if you're in the area). Based on this, you might be able to get a sense of why I want to model Lancaster ED412. As a tribute to the Badge crew, and in a larger part as a tribute to the crews of Bomber Command, some 57,000 of which would never return from operations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Build Based on the documentation that has been unearthed regarding ED412, I intend to model the aircraft on the ground at RAF Langar as she would have been before her final mission. A variety of aftermarket additions will be added, including (but not limited to): -Eduard photo-etch interior -Kits-World lettering decals -Quickboost gun barrels -Quickboost air intakes -Eduard resin wheels -AIM (Transport Wings) crew ladder -Eduard canopy masks -Kits-World seatbelts -CMK engine -Belcher Bits small bomb containers (SBC's) -Airfix bomber resupply set I am currently aiming to have the crew door open, with one engine being worked on (cowlings removed), with part of the payload on it relevant trolley, and (maybe) the crew members waiting nearby prior to boarding. We will see how it goes but first things first is the Lancaster. For the exterior of the Lancaster I would like to use the technique used by "viper_models" on Instagram (an example of whose technique can be seen here)- this seems to involve making lines of rivets and then filling in the panels with Mr Surfacer to create a stressed skin appearance. While I appreciate this might not be an entirely authentic addition (especially for a Lancaster with relatively few flying hours) I feel that it would provide a nice visual addition to the aircraft. (For those following along with the Midlands Air Ambulance EC-135 build, I will be working alongside that at the same time!) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Photo courtesy of Jim Wright and the IBCC) "A few months before he was killed Badge stood in the Quad talking to us, chuckling at the unexpected destiny which has called him from his father's Devon farm: fit, solid, unperturbed, he grinned as he recounted awkward and dangerous incidents during his flying instruction in Canada and England. In his even tones there was not the mildest hint of swagger: as in his eyes there was no hint, no shadow fear: Devon stock this. He went away to fly a Stirling; and shortly after a great flight to Turin there came the news that his aircraft, and another, had crashed near Vevey in Switzerland. He and his crew lie buried on a hill above the old church of Saint Martin that looks out over the Lake of Geneva. He was at Shebbear from 1937-1941, finishing in the Sixth; he served Shebbear faithfully, as librarian, a cadet in the A.T.C., member of the 1st XV, and not least as a member of the choir whose playing of the violin we remember. Throughout his training in the R.A.F. he kept in touch with Shebbear, though so keen about his work that the days were hardly long enough: "Although it is time for bed," he wrote, "I still have some more work to do, so I must close this letter." It was hard to believe that so much life was quenched." (Entry in the Shebbear College Roll of Honour booklet- With thanks to Amy Bernstone and Andy Bryan). So until next time, thank you ever so much for reading and following along. Best wishes, Sam "We have loved him in life, let us not forget him in death" -Epitaph of Horace Badge
  11. That's very kind of you, I really appreciate your generous words! They are quite remarkable flying machines aren't they, that sounds like quite an experience seeing them up-close. Would you be looking at 1:32 scale for the EC-135, or more of a smaller scale? I'm not sure how easy it would be to obtain now that they've stopped trading, but WhirlyBird Models did a good 1:72 add-on kit with the decals and a few resin extras. If you were looking at 1:32, I could see what I can do to help with the decals when they're done. As for future progress, it has been a slightly full-on year with limited opportunities to return home to do some modelling. With any luck I should find out my exam results next week, and (fingers crossed) will then have about 5 weeks in which to crack on with this project and others sat on the "to do" shelf. Best wishes, Sam
  12. Afternoon everyone, Thank you all again so very much for your help! And @Casey what an incredible abundance of information, which will definitely come in handy for this project, thank you! Best wishes, Sam
  13. You are quite right! Apologies, that's what late-night browsing through Britmodeller gets me... All the best, Sam
  14. Brilliant! Thank you @Troy Smith for taking the time to find these resources, they are a veritable treasure-trove of information. I will certainly be looking to get the bomber resupply set as part of this project, and likely Belcher Bits' SBC's as I suspect twice as many (12) SBC's will be needed than are included in the Airfix set (6)? A quick question about fuselage roundels again, I noticed skimming through the above resources (will have a more in-depth look tomorrow) that a photo labelled as Lancaster B1's of 207 sqn (link here) (date not specified) have A1(?) roundels and white lettering, and a photo labelled as B1's of 44sqn in 1942 (link here) have the C1 roundels. -I appreciate wikipedia is perhaps not the ideal source to go to, yet I did notice the page indicating Type C1 roundels being introduced in July 1942. With the Badge crew's last mission on 13th July 1942, is it certain that the roundels used would have been C1? All the best, and thanks again, Sam
  15. Good evening, Thank you to everyone for your helpful and comprehensive replies, it has been really beneficial and has added a great deal of food for thought. (I have added amendments below each question on the original post to collate this information together) Many thanks, and best wishes, Sam
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