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Mountain goat
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Hi Still having no access to books I realised Akira Watanabe, who I regard as a consistently safe and dependable source of knowledge regarding modern Japanese military aviation, and whose website is very accessible for non-Japanese speakers, explains the difference between RF-4E and RF-4EJ succinctly. If still in doubt, there's also flyteam's concise fact sheet and photos of the 15 individual RF-4EJs. Jay -
I'm a bit confused as I had always thought Japanese Phantom types were very well documented. As I understand it: - F-4EJ, interceptor, introduced in 1971. Found to be quite ineffective in some conditions during the Belenko-affair. - RF-4E, recce, introduced in 501 Sqn in 1974 to replace RF-86F. - F-4EJ Kai, interceptor and tactical fighter, modification of 90 aircraft undertaken from 1987 onwards. - RF-4EJ, 15 unmodified F-4EJs that were repurposed into recce fighters in the early 1990s to complement the dwindling RF-4E fleet in 501 Sqn. As Giorgio said earlier, their recce equipment was in pods. However: - RF-4EJ was also the unofficial designation used by McDonnel in its marketing in the early 1970s to differentiate the customer. Several American or US-centric aviation publications erroneously copied this, and I believe I have seen the designation mentioned in a Squadron book on the Phantom. I'm moving so all my books are in boxes at the mo. - RF-4E Kai and RF-4EJ Kai are unofficial designations for the aircraft that recieved some similar updates as the F-4EJ Kai, mostly RWR I believe. Happy to stand corrected as all this info comes from me brain. Books being beyond reach and all. Jay
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After their somewhat pricey F-14, perhaps FM's Phantom Phamily will be more competitively priced - one may live in hope. Meanwhile, look what I found in the attic: Hasegawa's Phantom Phamily début in their 1990 catalogue (I know, the age shows). The project had been announced earlier, but at least here the different variants were illustrated... some speculation on my part but it appears the in-house modeller had borrowed a couple of Fujimi's decals. Jay
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Thanks Koen, somehow missed those - excellent news! Jay
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The sponsons in the CADs are specific for very late H-model onwards (from FY74 I believe?). They extend forward slightly more and extend over the vertical 'warning propeller' line, whereas the earlier versions don't. Also easily recognisable is the small intake at the front end of the starboard sponson. All earlier basic versions have shorter sponsons. Sponsons of the later H (as in the CAD): Sponsons, earlier versions: C-130K sponsons are the similar to the ones in the lower image. Modifying late era sponsons to earlier ones requires some surgery, filler and elbow grease - but one can live in hope Zvezda will include both options from the start - if not, aftermarket will probably help out though. Jay
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Didn't the Airfix kit feature a flat underside? I am using Airfix parts to stretch an Italeri fuselage and the difference there is remarkable. Jay
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I wonder if the recce versions are considered as well. Probably, if they're doing a family, 1990s Hasegawa-style. Never enough RF-4C/ E methinks. And F-4Gs. Jay
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Bravo Zvezda Jay
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Sure seems that way doesn't it? Jay
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Thanks! I took some some screen shots (in the name of free publicity): Seems like there are no separate air brakes. But the intakes look interesting. Jay
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Regarding the T-33, I'm hoping for decals for the '83 Kiwi: Credit: Rob Schleiffert Jay
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This is extremely useful information for all HAF Phantom modellers. Thank you for sharing. If you finish the list please post a thread about it because it's a great tool for Phantom Phreaks as well as for those of us that missed out on essential HAF literature in the past. Look now you did it - I can't get the idea out of my head! Jay
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Indeed his research may have been used: looking at the newer colour scheme side-views; the upper curve of the nose section meets the windscreen in exactly the right way for long-nose Phantoms. I think he's called Soyuyo> Anyway he makes clear the windscreen does not sit atop the forward fuselage as with the short-nosed variants - instead it sits slightly 'buried' between the nose section skin. I would like to place the image explaining all this below - though his website is very much worth visiting if you like Phantoms. COPYRIGHT SOYUYO Jay
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Well, there's a couple of Mirage F.1CGs that need company. So yes definitely research for something that'll end up plastic. I'm moving houses at the moment so no time to do any modelling - although painting walls allows me time to wonder about stuff... in great detail Jay
