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Mike Starmer

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  1. For Dieppe SCC.2 brown overall same for the Tunisian tank. Since I wrote that about the KIngforce Churchills, more information a has come to light. These 6 tanks were all re-worked in UK and prepainted Light Stone 61 before dispatched to Egypt. Look at the light colour inside the suspension and springs which indicates spaying before fitting track rather than a fast brush over by troops later. The pattern on all of these tanks is similar and based on that for the Crusader being of basically similar layout, i.e. turret on hull, no side surfaces above tracks. The dark colour as anecdotal reports is a dark red-brown, not as artwork of green or black. The bridgelayers were all converted in 1943 so all SCC.2 brown. At D-day they were probably all that colour,later conversions and major repairs would be SCC.15 Olive Drab.
  2. The image shows an early three seater C8 2 pdr portee of 47th Inf. Div. the 'bow bells' emblem can just be discerned on the left mudguard. It is finished according to MTP.20 , basic Khaki Green 3 with either Dark Green 4 or Dark Tarmac 4 stripes. This is a 1940-42 scheme. The kit model is the later four seater finished according to MTP.46/4A scheme. The kit diagram is not quite right in layout. All of the surfaces as seen from directly above should be the darker colour. These include the bonnet top and front mudguards too. As for colours, you have some choices. In 1943 the basic colour will be SCC.2 brown with SCC.1A dark brown patterning and tops. The canvas sides were dyed brown, shades lighter than SCC.2. Alternatively SCC.14 black could be the patterning after October 1943. Either scheme would have been used in France during 1944. If the vehicle were a repaint, then SCC.15 Olive Drab basic but you could still have the canvas areas brown as they were earlier or overpainted with bituminious emulsion SCC.15 slightly lighter than the paint and you can still have black patterning as before. Stars were only applied from about March 1944. The 17pdr could be either SCC.2 or SCC.15 overall. The jeeps were often left US Olive Drab No.9 with patterning of either SCC.1A or SCC.14 black. But as before the whole top would be dark as would the entire bonnet and top mudguards. Matchbox copied a restored vehicle for this, and they are not known as reliable references.
  3. Mike Starmer

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    I am not inspired by box-art either. I am inspired by a subject photograph, then I think that it would look great in a particular scheme. Alternatively, I know of a particular scheme and long await a kit of the subject on which to apply it. As a result I have a long list of subjects with scheme notes all waiting to be built- maybe.
  4. It may be that only the first type was used on aircraft. It is noticeable that after December 1940 it is no longer seen on aircraft. The first type gas-detection paint is a light yellow green. A preserved sample I matched in 2007 was 1 x Hum 99 + 1 x Hum 81. The July 1939 War Office standard states that it should closely match BS.55 Lemon, so my mix is about right. Later it was reformulated to be less conspicuous. I have a copy of some War Office contracts for a total of 23,000 gallons 'khaki anti-gas' paint in November 1943 and January 1944. Thus not so obvious on vehicles. Theses orders were amendments to contracts for paint spraying brown No,2 special i.e. SCC.2.
  5. Vallejo 'desert sand' is way too dark and brown, Vallejo 70917 is much closer and then slightly dark. I attempted to make a Vallejo mix but failed due to the very limited range in hand. My local shop closed so I can no longer nip out and get one. British desert 'sand' colours were very much lighter than is generally presumed. Tamiya recommendations id far too dark too.
  6. The interior in the image is Eau De Nil, but a post 1948 repaint due to change in painting policy, i.e. no enemy by then.
  7. On this particular tank I think SCC.2 brown. However, what is not obvious is the RAC flash on the front plate hidden in reflections and there would be one on the rear plate too. Middle Bronze Green was not a colour used on vehicles during WW 2. This information originated in B.T. White's book of 1978 based on the flawed assumption that the Khaki, Dark and Light Greens of 1940 were renamed pre-war bronze greens whereas they were a series of new colours.
  8. If I recall correctly, the immediate post-war colour for Middle East vehicles reverted to Light Stone No.61. This remained until 1948 when the current colour, Light Stone No.361 replaced it. They are NOT the same colour. Thus vehicles refurbished for sales to Middle Eastern countries was Light Stone No.61. This colour is decidedly yellow in appearance not as on the museum examples.
  9. The Marmon-Herrington IV is gloss white. The museum example at Saxonwald, Johannesburg when I was in it before restoration, which I think is now taking place. All the cars of that series are there and I was able to examine all of them closely about 10 years ago, courtesy of the technical curator. If you holiday near there it is well worth a visit.
  10. Ford Marmon-Herrington 81Y used by Jordanian Legion.
  11. When squadron codes were introduced the AMO specified 'Grey' codes, stores reference 33B/157 which is very light. Sea Grey Medium 33B/345 was not specified until 1940 and then for day fighters. Night bombers and later fighters were to have Sky Grey 33B/263-265 codes and serials. These light codes and serials have often, and still being stated as white. The tone of the letters is only just darker than the white in roundels. Look at pre-war Hurricanes and Spitfires again then early Blenheims, Wellingtons, Hampdens, Whitleys, Stirlings, Manchesters and Lancasters, they all had light codes and serials. M Bowyer's books are specific in describing very light and darker codes for the 1939-41 period although at the time he didn't know the designations of those colours.
  12. Having taken a look at this particular vehicle I see that it carries the rather unusual pre-1944 scheme of two browns. It is unusual in that the colours on the turret were reversed from the specified type pattern. The LRC is painted in the MTP. 46/4A patterning with a basic colour of SCC.2 brown and SCC1A dark brown on all upper surfaces. The darker colour is lobed, 'Mickey Mouse' type application, standard for the type. But for some reason the turrets were painted overall SCC.1A and the lobes were the lighter SCC.2. That is why you see those light 'blobs' on the picture. Sorry, I have images but cannot work out how to attach them.
  13. HE munitions were BS.381. No.58 Light Buff. A mid mustard shade. The variations in shade are due to age and the way these were handled, often rolled along the ground. Even by 1942 this was a commonly seen colour, the green ones are Middle Bronze Green No.23.
  14. Well done, spot on with the pattern too. Dark Green is specified in the MEGO but Black can be used as an alternative disrupter.
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