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Peter Roberts

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  1. A couple of points if I may. The Safety Network has this aircraft, K9843, nosing over on 30 November 1939 while with 41 Squadron, and at Hamble for repairs on 10 December, being reissued to 54 Squadron in February 1940 where it was coded DL-N The aircraft in the photograph above carries Type B fuselage roundels which were supposed to have been converted to Type A in September 1939, so it is a good bet this photo was taken before then, which means this DL-N is probably NOT K9843, which would have still been at 41 Squadron. Note that fin flashes were not introduced officially until 1 May 1940, so the Squadron emblem was likely retained on the fin, although these and serial numbers were sometimes painted over as security measures. When K9843 served with 54 Squadron in February 1940, it would likely have had Type A fuselage roundels. 54 Squadron carried both KL and DL codes, but I don’t have any information as to when these were used. Footnote: Sgt Llewellyn went on to have a successful career in the RAF apparently, being awarded a DFM and retiring from the Service in the ‘50s.
  2. A range of BoB Spitfire Mk Ias would be great, covering early to late versions
  3. They also missed the little dull red swastikas on the tips of the spinners. This a/c suffered major damage when a bomb load exploded on the airfield, and it received a whole new tail unit, I think from just behind the upper turret, but not 100% sure. Sorry, don’t know the date for that. There was also provision for a ventral turret which was removed and blanked off in a fairly crude way
  4. Note, P8131 was a presentation aircraft, ‘LUTON’
  5. Interesting film. Richard Hillary was working on an Air-Sea Rescue film in November 1942, capacity unknown, after recovering from burns received when he was shot down during the Battle of Britain. This film is dated 1943, so maybe the one he was involved with.
  6. If most of the Ikarol paints weren’t patented until 1942, does this then fit with Merrick and Kiroff finding that primer was no longer used from early 1943, given the need to get manufacturing going and supply chains resourced? Edit - would there also have been the need for testing and approval before their use?
  7. Thank you Troy, nice find! Only a little bit of 65 Sqn, but all up very atmospheric, even if staged. Much appreciated.
  8. Are you able to post a link to the other two films please Troy?
  9. Yes, and curiosity. If there is a primer, that would be seen first where paint is worn. It looks like, for most WW2 Me 109s, bare metal would be seen where paint has worn or been damaged. Thank you all for your informed replies. I hope I haven’t open a regards colour.
  10. Was focusing more on WW2 a/c Graham. When you say ‘later’, would that be by the time of WW2? The factory shots are potentially one of the final camouflage colours?
  11. Did the Me109 get any primer applied before receiving its camouflage? My presumption is that it did. Indeed, I presume (though I hate to do that) most aircraft do. If so, what colour would it have been?
  12. A pity there was no adjustment to the fuselage stringer at the nose, as identified earlier in this thread. Otherwise, a brilliant effort by the look of it. Not sure how practical though. My painting skills lack with something like this, hopefully there are plenty of others who are otherwise.
  13. Perhaps you will allow me to update you Troy. Spitfire Mk V Modification no 787 “Delete painting fuselage interior (all Marks), 13/9/43”
  14. N3200 at Duxford has painted aluminium behind the pilot’s seat. The Science Museum Spitfire is suspended from the ceiling so not all that available for scrutiny. I was told by a trusted source that there was an amendment to Spitfire production that saw the cessation of painting on the inside of the fuselage. No doubt listed in Morgan and Shacklady, haven’t had a chance to look it out. I would suggest cessation on only the aluminium areas.
  15. Ten Mk Xs were delivered between 4 April and 16 May 1944 (MD191-MD213) I thought all Spitfires had aluminium in their rear fuselages? (from pilots seat back), some painted, some unpainted
  16. Just a heads up - Wingleader have posted another film, this one about losses from a raid on Bristol on 25 September 1940. Up to their usual brilliant, forensic standard! And some nice schemes there too (especially one of the He111s), not to mention some very rare pictorial coverage.
  17. Ditto, would LOVE to see a BoB Hurricane Mk I with appropriate surface detail, warts (rivets) and all. The variety of options for such a kit will keep them going for almost as long as the Spitfire! 😉
  18. Not to mention ASR, LR and Seafire III. And a VI…. Then Vc to IXc is mainly a new nose, and we’re into a whole new realm!
  19. I like it - not into German a/c but I can see myself getting one of these. Some attractive options and features in this kit.
  20. I believe Red Roo may have covered Colyer’s a/c, so Ed may be along to help, or you may want to drop them a line?
  21. Would you care to share your horizontal and vertical Hurricane nose measurements, with the 1/2” difference?
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