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I'd wait until Trumpeter or Airfix bring theirs out.......well, you never know..there were rumours........
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You've just GOT to love the look of Sea Venoms Their huge noses just give them such a unique appearence. Were they by any chance a naval variant of the Vampire?
No, not really, the only things in common were the twin booms and the manufacturers..
The Sea Vixen was much, much larger than the diminutive Vampire, and had twin engines. It was also all metal, as opposed to the partial wooden construction of the Vampire, and was desinated as an All Weather Fighter, as a Weapons platform.......
There was a naval variant of the Vampire - the Sea Vampire, and of course the Sea Venom followed....
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John Adams mentions F4s fitted with F6 tailpipes on one of his posts, so beware!!
I know I've said it before, but looking at pictures of earlier F6's (particularly those of the Black Arrows - with straight wings) and those of 19 Sqn, and comparing them with later F6's throws a sackful of spanners in the works....
Gods speed Ed!!!!!!
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Agreed Edgar,Its time to sort thi sout once and for all!!! All we need a tape measure and volunteer...I had hoped to start by measuring the tail end of the T8M at Yeovilton a year or so ago, but never managed to finish -and luckily there are still a few GA11's around.....AND other assorted T-birds. So..the 100-series SHOULDN'T be a problem. Likewise we aren't short of FGA9's or F6A's (or F58's!!) so those shouldn't cause a problem either. I will be visiting Kemble this year, and I will have a tape measure, camera and tape measure with me!!
Yes, I'll sort those pic's out later......watch this space!
Sorry for the delay......
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Later this year??? has been around for a little while already and yes it is the old FROG kit.
Quite right Joe, I've sold a couple of these already..............
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The Decals on my examples were perfectly in register - if some what glossy - looked reallly nice!
You gotta take your hat off to those at Airfix and Humbrol - they've done a cracking job!
WELL DONE Airfix!!!!
(Bring on the Canberra's, Bring on the Canberra's.....Bring........)
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I actually have a couple in stock..........
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http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=HA09764
Just listed on the Hannants site. Is it too much to hope for a Brit Harrier with the 100% LERX included in the box, and also a TIALD pod with associated pylon? Or will it be just as I expect - the original GR7 kit with a new decal sheet)?
The latter - I'd wager!!!!
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Complete, small-exhaust, Hunters are a bit hin on the ground, but, according to the current Wrecks & Relics., the
following are still around:- Henlow, Mk.1; Waterbeach, Mk.2; Great Dunmow, Mk.5; Fleet Hargate, Mk.1; Greenford, Mk.1; Manchester IWM, Mk.1; Newark, Mk.1; Tangmere, Mk.5; Dumfries & Galloway Museum, Mk.4; Inverness Airport, Mk.1; Caernarfon Aerodrome, Mk.1; Kenfig Hill, Mk.1. There are some ex-Denmark F.51s, which should be the equivalent to a 4:- Farnborough, Lasham, Norwich, Sunderland, Brooklands, Charlwood (Gatwick,) Midland Air Museum, Kidderminster, and Sealand. None of them are within easy reach, for me, and it's somewhat annoying to think back to when there were 4s, 6s, and 6As, readily available at Halton, but we always assumed that the fuselage was a standard length, and never considered that they might differ. If anyone fancies doing any of these, and needs further details, I can furnish them, and I'm sure that there'll be a lot of grateful U.K. modellers
Edgar
Agreed Edgar,Its time to sort thi sout once and for all!!! All we need a tape measure and volunteer...I had hoped to start by measuring the tail end of the T8M at Yeovilton a year or so ago, but never managed to finish -and luckily there are still a few GA11's around.....AND other assorted T-birds. So..the 100-series SHOULDN'T be a problem. Likewise we aren't short of FGA9's or F6A's (or F58's!!) so those shouldn't cause a problem either. I will be visiting Kemble this year, and I will have a tape measure, camera and tape measure with me!!
Boy would I love to see that loft!!Very interesting measurements/analysis on the tailcones. I thought, being a Hunter novice, that I had the four different tailcones figured out - wrong...after seeing that first picture (narrow with para housing).
Any chance you could post some pictures of the tailpieces in the Aeroclub conversion (Boy would I like to find that one!!).
Thanks for the continued effort, Bill.
Gene K
Yes, I'll sort those pic's out later......watch this space!
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I'm in!!!!!
Musings:
Most likely candidate?:............1/48th Lightning F3,
though we shall see............
hmmm, should really do something RAFG,
let me think..........................
I'll be back!!
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The finish on the two Whirlwinds is a little unusual.
Robin.
"Junglies" Robin, in Spinach and Sand (minus the Spinach!!!!!)
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Model Aircraft Monthly Vol 6 Issue 2 (Feb 2007) has a great article on building the Revell 1/72 Hunter. In the article, the author, Ray Ball, uses "pre-production resin replacement wheels (to be released in a pair of forthcoming 1/72 scale MAM Conversion Sets later in the year)". Evidently the sets will be for the F.1/F.4 and F.2/F.5. No mention is made of the parts other than the wheels, but I imagine there will be tail pieces included.
Anyone have any details on these MAM sets?
Gene K
Interesting Gene, look forward to seeing this stuff......
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Been a bit quiet lately, sitting at home brooding...leg's sore...went into the loft (don't tell Mrs Clarkeeboy!!), took out one of Frank Brown's masterpieces...namely the 1/32 Hunter T7..................
The kit's fuselage is a one piece tooling, with the "100-series Avon" (you all know the one..the narrow bored version - albeit with the para housing on). It also has parts for a "200-series Avon" rear-end, for some export Tadpoles and of course the unique T12 - again with Para-fairing, so infact, identical to that on the FGA9.......
Anyway took out a tape measure and a camera..and hey preson north end........
They are IDENTICAL in length..i.e. 3.2cm (which is handy in 1/32nd scale I'm reasoning......)
I also took the opportunity to measure my WIB Revell F6, and the same area is slightly longer - only by a mm or so.
I also took time out to have a look at the constituent parts of John Adams' 1/48th single seater detail set and guess what??? ALL parts, be they for the F4, The F6 or the FGA9 are exactly the same length (ignoring of course the latter's para housing.)
Rocket science it ain't, but in lieu of me getting my back-side over to Kemble it's all I can offer at the moment.
BUT, IF Frank B., and John A., ARE correct in their measurements it dispells Steve Murray's "HS theory" of a couple of years back...Namely "The later versions had a shorter rear fuselage/jet pipe housing than the mks 1 - 5, which caused the larger diameter (as it lost the sharp upslope on the last few inches of the tail pipe)".
My theory was then, and is now, that the 200 series Avon tail pipe was LONGER and therefore the aperture had to be increased to avoid the tail pipe hitting the fuselage (BUT I wouldn't bet on it............not yet anyway!!!!!)
So, Gene to answer your original query ......Dunno!!!!!
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Lookeee at those 809 Sqn "peeled 'Nana's" at the back.........."
D-ROOOOOL indeedeeee
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I agree it's a lovely build, and what really grabbed my attention is the drying up tarmac - very British and effective:) I have two Italeri Tornados in the stash, and when dryfitting the nosecone to the fuselage there is a step all the way around. Trying to fill and sand this will change the shapes, and shortening the radome will change the shapes and sanding the radome to match the fuselage will change the shapes... And looking at pics of the finished models (all Italeri Tornado IDSes), the nose looks quite dominating. Does anyone have an exact sideview taken with a telephoto lens they'd like to share?
Jens
I shortened the oleo on the leg of my 1/32 Tonka GR1a conversion, as the nose profile looked a bit too high. Not sure if the same problem exists on the Italeri 1/48th kit...but FWIW I think all we are seeing here is a bit of camera distortion maybe....lovely finish BTW, very authentic......
Anyway, I have a load of Tornado pic's taken over the years - not sure if this one helps Jens, the quality's not great, but its of XA606 of the TWCU/45(Shadow) Sqn taken at Mildenhall in 1991 (or '92 maybe) theres a Harrier GR5 nose on the left...If I can find any others that may help I'll scan them in and post them.
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Bill,
Try here
Gene K
I could just about fit that in the garden......
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Since some of John's correction kits were/are for "mainstream" kits, you'd think he would keep them in production - as for the CA Meteor and Academy Hunter, in particular.
True enough, though I wouldn't call CA "mainstream", The only correction set for the Meteor was a Martin Baker Ejection Seat, did you mean the Vampire?
As for the Hunter, agreed, to a certain extent......but see below...
I had hoped some of you Britmodellers knew of a store there in Britain that had the Aeroclub motherload...but then, that would be like divulging a secret fishing spot.Aeroclub used to have a stash.............
I'll keep an eye on eBay.Meteor Productions does have a Jet Provost, but it's the Mk.3/4.
Gene K
Additionally, and I'm not attempting to defend or indeed speak on John Adams behalf in anyway, but Aeroclub are a relatively small cottage industry. They tend to tool up for production runs (like the 1/48th Vulcan) and then thats it. Bearing in mind those Hunter sets must be nearly ten years old (incidentally the 1/48th Airfix Lightning F3 I started building last week has "1997" stamped on the fuselage!!!!) then its amazing how well they have lasted.
For all I know the moulds (they were of the "limited run" variety after all) may have reached the end of their "limited run", in which case Aeroclub, as a profit making company with wages and overheads to meet woulds have a choice to make... re-tool another 250 sets knowing the last 250 took ten years to sell, knowing that most modellers have built their Hunters, not knowing whether Revell will down size their 1/32nd Hunter in 18 months time (Which whilst being fantastic for us modellers, would render any investment useless!!).
Or spend their money tooling something new?
It is though worth e-mailling John to ask him, (he is on Hyperscale fairly regularly).You never know he may or may neot, have something in the pipeline...
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Sorry Bill - for every one I rework I easliy buy 20 new ones
Sounds 'bout right Gary!
If you have a quick butchers on ARC Galery under RAF F4's you'll see a "re-vamped" FG1 I did at least 4 or 5 years ago (with incedibly poor photo reproduction on my old Kodak 1.2 meg camara - hi tech (almost) in them days..NOT!)
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All of this "re-cyclin', " ...Oi!!! It'll ruin trade!!
looking good Gary - some excellent coaming detail there.....
I must post some pic's of one of my "re-cycled" projects a Dynavector Javelin FAW9 recycled into an FAW5...
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After reading so many good comments about the Aeroclub kits and conversions, I attempted to order a few....but found that impossible (so far) to do. Specifically, I wanted the 1/48 Vampire and Hunter correction sets, and was also interested in a couple of the 1/72 Meteor kits. Hannants shows a lot of "Sold Out" Aeroclub items-- as does Luchtvaart -- and the Aeroclub site doesn't show them. After checking those European sources (which I figured had the best stock), I then checked US shops such as Meteor, Squadron, Roll, and Great Models -- same story - sold out.
So -- can someone point me to a good source of Aeroclub kits and conversions? (I'm in the US).
Thanks,
Gene K
Gene, They've mostly been out of productyion now for some time - they were only limited run kits anyway. As new "mainstream" kits came out (Lightnings by Airfix, Hunters by Academy, Vampires, Canberra's by CA etc.,) John Adams has dropped them ftrom his range.
I'm looking for a Jet Provost Mk 5 personally.......!!!
I'd suggest E-Bay maybe?
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Looking fantastic John - as ever!!! - love the cockpit...
Keep up the good work!!
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I have both sheets, from the single-seat Echelon kit, since I worked, with Frank Brown, on the instructions, and built, at least, 12 of the kits. The marks 1-5 had the same diameter exhaust (.63", 16mm in 1/32nd scale;) the 6 had a larger exhaust (.765", 19.4mm,) and the 6A & FGA9 had the parachute housing, with the same size orifice as the 6. The sheets are A2 size, and impossible, for me, to scan.
Since all of the RAF's two-seaters were converted 4s, they only had the smaller exhaust, even if they had a parachute housing. Some (if not all) export two-seaters had the larger exhaust. The only two-seater, in the U.K., with the large exhaust, was the sole Mk.12.
Edgar
What he said Gene!!! Incidentally I have the T7 in the stash as well.................
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Searching various sites like this one, Fighter Modeling and ARC, I "collected" many comments from Drewe Manton and Bill Clark (among others) about Hunters. Obviously Drewe's and Bill's buids are impressive, but many of the photos accompanying those builds are no longer there (some threads are several years old)....and Bill's insights are invaluable, but scattered over many threads. So...
Is there a site, book, magazine, or forum thread that compiles such valuable information about the Hunter? Would be great to have a comprehensive guide that addresses the aircraft and how to model it given existing kits, conversions, and accessories (as the SAM Modeler's Datafile - with a much expanded modelling section)..
Thanks,
Gene K
Thanks for your kind comments Gene! Sounds like a good idea to me, though it would be quite an undertaking....
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http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=AZM48003
Does anyone know anything about this kit? I have the Falcon PR.XI fuselage/conversion however if this kit is indeed correct it would make a 2 Sqn PR.XI alot easier!
Regards,
Ed
I'm going to get "one in" next week just to have a butchers.........but if anyone has a Heads-Up before doing this I'd be grateful!!
Their huge noses just give them such a unique appearence. Were they by any chance a naval variant of the Vampire?
Lightning F3 question...
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..probably summink I should know, but I've always understood, or believed that the cockpit colour on Lightnings was/would have been overall Dark (Admiralty?) Grey. But I'd read somewhere that early Lightnings had black cockpits, but if so, does anyone know when the colour would have changed from black to grey?
I'm looking in particular at a Lightning F3 of 74 Sqn ca 1965-ish (For the "cold war GB"). So was the black 'pits only found on the F1, F1a and F2, or was the F3 included.......black or grey...............
Cheers