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You'll have seen them on the scalemates searches of course, but do have a look at Atlantic Models. Peter Hall's range of post war RN kits is extensive, however being both 1/350 and resin, they are large and expensive; as Dave says, not necessarily a good choice if you're just getting started. Maybe a Dragon type 42 or older airfix Leander would be good places to start and get a feel for it. Andy
Thanks Donald, agreed, the original design was a lot cleaner. The Japanese just loved adding new levels, extra crew, guns…and weight..
Impressive and inspiring. 😎👍
Very nice. I've thought about doing HMS Sheffield in her late 1950s fit - must try and get a look at my father's photos as he was on her for the long 1957-58 (?) commission. Boring colour scheme though! Cheers, GrahamB
Nice hull detail going on there Jölle. What plastic strip are you using? Stuart
I ran out of interest in posting, but the final RFI is here:
I particularly love the Swordfish landing there.
This did actually get finished in the end, I just got out of the habit of posting! RFI:
Here's a build of HMS Hermes (1919) and HMAS Vampire (1917), from the Aoshima and Tamiya kits respectively. These two were lost during the Indian Ocean Raid of April 1942, caught virtually undefended while fleeing for Trincomalee by the bulk of the IJN Kido Butai airfleet. I thought it would be nice to display them together in happier times, in this case at the end of February 1942, when they were briefly bound for Fremantle together. Vampire had served with distinction as part of the Scrap Iron Flotilla in the Med virtually without rest since April 1940, and it would have been her first return home. Sadly they were recalled two days later to prepare for the invasion of Madagascar, and thus ultimately became ensnared in the Ceylon raid in April. Please forgive the photos. Originally as part of the excellent Salty Sea Dog GB, I 'finished' these two a while ago; and they did make it to Telford and back, but I was never particularly happy with the result, at least not enough to take any good pictures; before I upended the box they were travelling in 🤣. Since I entirely lack the inclination to untangle, repair and rebuild everything, I've decided to go with what I have. Anyway seeing as how annoying I know it can be to find builds on here that die out or questions that never get answered, I figured I may as well post what I have in case anyone in future has interest in the kits or subjects. The difficulty of displaying two ships together at a distance that doesn't look ridiculous (let alone anywhere near accurate) was something I struggled with. In this case I thought it would be nice to have some goofers on the Vampire enjoying the spectacle as she is acting as plane guard while Hermes lands on her Swordfish, although in reality that would put her a good mile astern. The diorama is consequently rather unbalanced to squeeze them both in. The odd shape is owing to my lack of space at home, so the base actually separates and the ships can be therefore sit individually on their own small hexagonal cut out portions. The sea base itself is rather rough, it's my first effort and let's just say lessons have subsequently been learned, I hope! HMS Hermes is from the Aoshima kit with various minor upgrades and scratch additions courtesy of Starling models (oerlikons) and Tom's Modelworks (upgraded PE crane). The aft netting is scratched from 0.1mm wire and some mesh ribbon, but the result is so shonky, it would've been better to leave it. It could've used Aoshima's PE set but I failed to find one. The kit is nice enough, a little abstract in places but suffers by comparison with the stunning Flyhawk one, and I spent no small amount of time bemoaning my decision to build the former. It says something about the state of the industry where I can feel aggrieved at building the worse modern tooled IM kit of an obscure single-ship class. HMAS Vampire is from the Tamiya, which is very nice, but a little simple in places, and despite being of the same ship, presents her in a pre-war fit that required a significant range of alterations. Mostly these were made using the comprehensive White Ensign V&W PE, Starling Models (oerlikons, depth charge gubbins, spools and vents) or scratch (2pdr pom poms, superstructure, masts). The stringbags are a mix of the kit ones and Flyhawks nutty 14-part versions. Yes, 1/700 aircraft, 14 parts. Figures mostly ION and Starling Models. Paint was predominantly Colourcoats with the odd bit of Tamiya thrown in here and there. My sincere thanks to all those who followed and helped out along the way. In particular @dickrd and @Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies, who provided a wealth of information and research on the schemes and fits of both ships. Also to @Procopius for sharing his excellent paper on the Indian Ocean Raid itself. The result doesn't nearly live up to the quality of information provided, but I'm glad to have got them finished in the end. More info on the builds and research can be found on the WiP pages below. Thanks for looking! Andy WiPs:
You're right of course, I'd completely forgotten the replacements for the type 42's and was thinking of the Type 22 "C's" all being the batch 3's Coventry as a type 22 isn't as easy to model, there are kits of type 22's but most are either batch 1 or batch 3, and all resin limited run kits, good but maybe not the best for a 1st attempt at ship modelling... https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION=Kits&q=Frigate Type 22-class 22*&fkTYPENAME="Full kits"
I have a rule (which I often break ) If I present a ship ‘at sea’ then I try, whenever possible, to put figures on board, otherwise the ship becomes a bit of a ‘Mary Celeste’. It’s not always easy getting the right scale figures, but don’t worry about painting them. At this scale ,and smaller, it’s all about fooling the viewers eye, the brain will see detail that is not there. Just remember how a real person would look like when viewed from a mile away. Jon
Thanks, Jon. I plan to display her as a waterline model at anchor diorama-style. As for figures, I’m not too sure. Way back in the day I did military figures from Napoleonic War's, but they were much larger scale. I don’t think I have the skill set and knowledge of painting techniques to pull off painting 1/144 figures and have them look halfway decent. I might try though. Jeff
https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION=Kits&q=Destroyer Sheffield-class type 42*&fkTYPENAME="Full kits" https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION=Kits&q=Landing platform dock Fearless-class*&fkTYPENAME="Full kits" https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION=Kits&q=Frigate Type 12I-class leander*&fkTYPENAME="Full kits"clas https://www.scalemates.com/search.php?fkSECTION=Kits&q=Frigate Type 12M-class rothesay*&fkTYPENAME="Full kits" The above links should give you an idea of what has been kitted for the classes of ship you're enquiring about, not all the names are kitted, but if you choose a sister in similar fit it shouldn't be too difficult to model the one you want. I can't find reference to a Tribal HMS Rhyl, the last one was a Rothesay class Leander, ditto HMS Coventry was a type 42, not 22. If you're just beginning modelling you might want to stick to plastic injection moulded kits to start with, they're much cheaper and easier to obtain than resin kits and generally easier to build, though they have less detail. Of the ships you've listed, Airfix do kits in 1/600 scale Fearless (Intrepid) and Leander (Ariadne/Rhyl) they're older basic kits that would need a bit of modifying to be fully accurate for the ships you want but wouldn't be far off out of the box. Dragon/Pitroad/DML/Revell have done type 42's in 1/700 scale, they're a later more detailed kit, the plastic is the same in all the Batch1/Batch 2 kits so any of these should do for Cardiff or Coventry, there's a good selection of parts for different fits so you can model them pretty much any time throughout their life, just avoid the batch 3 kits as these have the longer focsle of the last ships.
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