Hi there,

An update to show I'm making some progress with my Airfix 1/48 build. But first I have a confession

Doc: Forgive me father for I have sinned....
Priest: So tell me more my son.
Doc: Well its about this Jag build for the GB.
Priest: ....Whats that you say...
Doc: Not real happy about the kit bang seat so I had a rummage and found a Neomega Lightning MB seat that I thought would do.
Priest: No No No... thats totally the wrong seat for your Jaguar you need a Martin Baker Mk.9 ejector seat, you clot.
Doc:......I...erm..... well its in there now.
Priest: I despair, 3 our fathers and 6 hail mary's and be gone with you.


So the build commences "with the wrong seat installed", just too tight to change it anyway. Cockpit WILL be closed as there is nothing to see in there, kit stuff instrument decals etc. The meat of this build will the finished paint scheme which I'm sort of looking forward to.



Wings fixed on yesterday joints still to be filled.

More soon.

Doc

You go there Doc!

I've just noticed... my Jag's got a different tail than yours. You have a square "bullet" on the leading edge, while mine has a weedy pointy one that's bound to snap off if I'm not careful. What's all that about then?

Not sure what its called but I had the pointy thing on the tail but just cut it off this morning and fixed the square one from the kit, to match the ref pics I have for XX119.



As posted by John yesterday.

Doc

That boxy thing on the GR's is its RWR (Radar Warning Reciever) Heads or Aerials.
Wardy

Doc,

Good luck the Kat. I can assure you it will be hard work but once youve done it, she'll be one to be proud of thats for sure and ok I went crossed eyed a few times but a beer or 2 soon cures that

All the best Bex

Love to know your priests name Pete I'd say you got off lightly!

Good luck,

Al

Father O'Flannigan is a good man if you catch him after he's been at the juice!

So a progress update today:



Although not much seems to have changed much has been done which moves this one nearer the paint shop. Joints are now mostly filled, canopy which had been pre dipped in Future is fixed on. I made a cover for the HUD as shown in a few photos of this beast, gets around me detailing this part too much.



Airbrakes which I wanted retracted are fitted, these parts needed surgery as they are molded in the deployed state. I want this one to look as clean as possible.

I am still working out the best way to paint this scheme, I have a few ideas using either masking or freehand but not sure yet.

Cheers

Doc

Your a brave brave man Doc, painting tht scheme. I doff my cap to ya

Doc,

If u want to know how I did mine, drop me a PM and I'll write it out for ya.

Bex

PM inbound

At the risk of stating the obvious, you do know that there is a decal sheet due out next month for XX119 right Doc?

FOrgot to add a paint colour to PM, but I will dig the pot out tomorrow afternoon and let you know the colour of the blue behind the 6 Sqn markings I used.

Bex

Yeah I know Gary but hey I'm an impatient modeller, IF this sheet is released then I will certainly think about it for the squadron markings but I still think the most accurate look for jaguar spots will be sprayed on, right? The foil peeling should be one of the more simple things to replicate, just long winded.

Cheers

Doc

Looking forward to seeing this Doc!

While we're on the subject of thise jet, which is a totally cracking scheme, do we know what happened to it after withdrawal from service? Was it stripped & dumped like the rest of them, or has it gone to a museum? I'm seriously hoping it's the latter

Neither Mike - it was flown into RAF Cosford where it will be used as a training airframe for all those new RAF techies.

There was hope that this one and the Pink one were gonna go into the cosford museum, but as stated its official line was "its going to become a ground trainer".

For info if you didn't know the Pink Jag was the only Gulf War Jag in service at the end I think if I remember it was Busta Gonad

XX725 was Johnny Fartpants during GW1, somebody here flew it during that time.

Sorry my bad I stand corrected I knew it was a gulf jet though lol sorry about the crap info.

Oh yeah - who?

Steve (jagmate), and he has a rather nice 1/48 Bf 109 almost completed which is currently sitting in my workshop. Linky below:

http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....&hl=jagmate



And the man himself....






Doc, really looking forward to seeing your Jag finished, should look fabulous when done . (Would love to try that one myself one day, who knows, if I ever get the time!!).

A little progress with some paint going on at last.

First off some black on the canopy before the top coat. Also added some scratch build strakes and some fiddling with the inner and outer pylons, basically swapped them so the deeper but shorter ones are inboard. I admire Gary's (rdxtnt) scratched pylons, if only I had the skill.



Then a layer of Mr Halfords finest grey primer which highlights my woeful filling and sanding attempts, so a little work needs to be done before I continue.



The process I am going to use for this scheme will be to spray some Alclad on the areas which will have simulated foiling. Then mask off each "peel" and then spray the grey undersides and top. Mask this off and then white primer to the top and then the orange colour. Its this point I'm undecided to use masking or freehand the black jaguar scheme.

Still a little work before I get to this point.

Cheers

Doc

Coming along very nicely, Mr Festival... get a move on though

Doc,

Coming along MUCH faster than my XX119...... One comment on the "simulated foiling" - I believe this is two shades of grey, light grey background with darker grey stripes simulating the bend of the metal. For mine I am going to spray the pattern on clear decal film and then cut out the foiling shapes. Hopefully this will require less masking and be more forgiving of the inevitable mistakes when applying the scheme ....

HTH,

Ian

Look good Doc, right re that missing blue paint I was on about for behind the Sqn markings on the intakes, its Revell Matt 55 which is I think about the closest I could find. As for the peeling silver strips, I wish u luck and sorry I cant help with that bit is they drove me totally mad!!!

Bex

Wow Pete, this is gonna be phenomenal when done.
I would (personally) go for freehand spraying the Jaguar print colours, but then again I am renowned somewaht for being a masochist

Mike, if youre a masochist I must be a lunatic, I did 1/72 XX119 totally freehand with a brush, so if anyones brave enuff to take on this bird in 1/48 then they must either be bloody good modellers or just totally mad LoL

Bex

Yes, Sure, Doc its a very impatient modeller, but sure If he dont find the decal sheet, He paints al the plane by himslef, I said Doc that he have to be more patient, not one time , or two times,
I buy recently this kit, its a nice jet plane, but I´m not ready to start building jet planes.
Lets seeing your progress Doc.
Best regards.
Héctor

Thx Guys and Gals,

Progressing well with this one, and having read the comments by Ian and his foiling idea it's been giving me some thoughts.

Yesterday I went ahead with my original idea of Alclad for the foil, layed down some gloss black and then Alclad polished ali. Not that impressed with the finish so decided to go ahead and mask ready for the white primer and then orange topcoat. I will try using some silver vinyl for the foil peel, just hope I can make it look convincing enough. If this method does look too much like stickers plonked on I will try the decal transfer route.

Post some pics later.

Cheers

Doc

I agree with Noydoneyet Doc, I don't think the peelbacks are silver at all. I think they are grey, with shading to make them look a bit 3d ish.

Jen.

True Jen, but from some angles when the sun is on these markings they do look pretty bright no?



Doc

OK for my Penny's worth I would go for aluminium (Tamiya XF-16) with a dark gull grey for the bends.

The hard part I would have thought is the black shadows under them. I must admit if I had the time I would love to have a stab at it.

Coming along great though

Thx Phil,

Now the pics, the tail was sprayed gloss black before the masking went on. Then a layer of Halfords white primer :-



Allowed to dry then its Tango time, a custom mix for the orange adding a little red to make the colour richer. I wanted to get a good blend on the nose between the white and orange and it turned out pretty well.





I may spray a layer of future to protect the orange layer then if I balls-up the black spots I have a chance of removing them and not ruining the complete finish. The masking will stay on until the Jaguar spots have been applied.

.....deep breath.....

Doc

Its amazing, i sat thinking for hours how I was gonna sort that orange out, i had a complete brain fart and forgot that duh yellow + red = orange. Thanks Doc looks like I might end up making my other Jag kit into Sullivans Kat. Looking good Doc, got my breath held for ya.

Bex

That Orange looks spot on Doc

it does... I can see why you buttoned up the pit so quickly now... couldn't wait to get painting!

Looking forward to this one unfolding Doc.

Looks good to me Doc.

True freehand would be soooooo much easier than making masks....... but...... my spraying ain't as good as yours Mike thats for sure. To be able to accurately reproduce the shapes would be a no no with my spraying technique.



As you can see on the tail the pattern is not regular although the majority of the patterns are repeated, the guys who sprayed the scheme obviously had a few different stencils so I intend doing much the same.

Doc

Made a start on cutting some masks. These are produced from images sent through from Ian (Notdoneyet), thanks mate.



Basically re-sized the image to 1/48 and ran off half a dozen sheets for use making the masks. I'm starting with the outer wing as this a symmetrical copy for both wings and I can flip the mask and reuse. Parts of the mask can be used individually for other areas and this scheme will be made up slowly piece by piece.

Cheers

Doc

I reckon that masking method should work a treat Doc, for the black bits. That orange looks pretty much spot (sorry for the pun!!) on too, this is going to be a rather nice Jag I feel .

Regarding the 'peeled back' metal effect, my suggestion would be to steer well clear of silver. It may look totally wrong once on, my take on it is to do it in two greys, i.e: light grey and medium grey of some kind. From all the pics I have, it looks more like two-tone greys, with a little black edging to create the 'shadows'. Though I have no conclusive proof that this was exactly how it was done!

Looking good.

Hmm I hear what you are saying Neil, thats something to worry about for the future.

As for the masks/stencils well here are the first results using the outer mask:-





I have used a mix of XF-69 Nato black and XF-1 for the spots. I noticed the leading edge black protection is noticeably darker so I will eventually use straight XF-1 for that.

Right back to the jigsaw puzzle......

Doc

Top work Doc. Some great techniques you've got going there. Watching with baited breath

Amazing Pete , looks fantastic, your progress is ..................... amazing.
Lets see the final , that its not for too long.
Regards.
Héctor

Wow Pete, that looks great so far!
Take your time, don't wanna rush it and end up messing it up completely!
I reckon your method is way better than anyone could hope to achieve by freehand spraying.
Freehand spraying might be a better/easier option if it were in 1/32 or 1/24.

It looks fantastic Doc

really well done indeed so far, im sure it will look great. i agree about keeping clear of the silver, if i was brave enough to attempt this scheme i would use white as a base coat and spray medium grey stripes over the top. the over spray should tone the white back to a light grey.

Ooooooooooh.
Those masks are working a treat aren't they.
Orange is indeed spot on. I agree with a few others here as well, I'd go with 2 shades of grey for the peeled back areas. I think silver would look to harsh in this scale, whereas you could do a nice subtle effect with the greys.
Brilliant. Look forward to more.

Thanks peeps,

OK the wings are now done, that was the easy bit, now to get the pattern over the complex curves.



Seems the general feeling regarding the foiling is to go with a light grey background and dark grey shadow. So I will go with the majority although it still looks silver to me!

Cheers

Doc

Looking great Pete - just hope mine turns out half as well. The foiling is definitely not silver - they are light grey with dark grey bands to simulate 3D and black outline.

Cheers,

Ian