Gary West
Sep 30 2007, 07:11 PM
My flag well and truly nailed to the mast. Both 1:48.........
Jaguar GR1 XW563 which was the 7th Prototype and one of the Jaguar trial a/c -

and I'll be using the Heller Jaguar "A" kit with all the Paragon bits and bobs.
Jaguar T2 - Not sure which squadron yet, but the wrap round tactical scheme

This is an old build which was completely finished bar the canopies....then I decided I wasn't happy with it so I stripped it right back and removed the wings. She will have the full Paragon make over and you can see I have already removed the wing sections ready for the Paragon slats/flaps.
GrahamEM
Oct 1 2007, 11:36 AM
looks good Gary, is it an easyish build the Jag ?
Gary West
Oct 1 2007, 12:58 PM
QUOTE (GrahamEM @ Oct 1 2007, 12:36 PM)

looks good Gary, is it an easyish build the Jag ?
Yes it is Graham - Airfix give it a skill level 2, so that says a lot. Having said that, I might just prove that wrong
Col.
Oct 1 2007, 03:28 PM
Glad to see you're going for the 7th prototype Gary, she's a subtly different bird from the usual squadron machines.
Am I right in thinking she lacks wing-fences?
Gary West
Oct 1 2007, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (Col. @ Oct 1 2007, 04:28 PM)

Am I right in thinking she lacks wing-fences?
Im hitting the T2 first Col, and will use that time to gen up on the GR1 - I have a good pic of SS06 on finals with the shorter tail and NO fences, then on the next page another pic of SS06 & 07 flying together, but with lengthened tails, and wing fences. Seems these were an upgrade as a reuslt of trials?
palacefan
Oct 5 2007, 01:05 PM
Looking good Gary, lots of good work there already.
On the side doors, have you just glued some thin styrene over the area or did you drill out the old doors first?
I think i may have a go at copying your pylon detail as well as it looks so good. Where did you get the reference for these?
I cant wait to see the prototype started as well.
Neil
Oct 5 2007, 01:21 PM
Good one Gary, coming along nicely

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Couple of minor critiques (not slagging it off by the way!!) there is only one gun vent tube, behind the underfuselage cannon bulges, the 'blank' gun bay does not have one (it still has the cannon bulge though!). There are also two vents, one either side of the rear spine, on the upper fuselage just behind the heat exchanger inlet position. There are also two small intakes, one either side of the rear fuselage, above the 'Fire' access points just in front of the exhaust cans.
I'll take my 'anorak' off now ....
Hector
Oct 5 2007, 01:30 PM
Hi!
Are you going to put the cockpit kit, I heard that its not correct, but I dont know really.
Start to like jet planes
Cheers.
Héctor
Gary West
Oct 5 2007, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (palacefan @ Oct 5 2007, 02:05 PM)

On the side doors, have you just glued some thin styrene over the area or did you drill out the old doors first?
I think i may have a go at copying your pylon detail as well as it looks so good. Where did you get the reference for these?
I added a thin strip of styrene to the deepest part of the door and then added the door shaped piece over that so it was more or less flat, then added a small amount of CA around the edges to fill any gaps.
For the centre line pylon I used loads of different reference pics, but to be honest I struggled to find a really good look down(or up) at the workings so I loosely followed Neils T4 build (sorry Neil) and agree it makes quite a difference.
Gary West
Oct 5 2007, 02:50 PM
QUOTE (Neil @ Oct 5 2007, 02:21 PM)

Couple of minor critiques (not slagging it off by the way!!) there is only one gun vent tube, behind the underfuselage cannon bulges, the 'blank' gun bay does not have one (it still has the cannon bulge though!). There are also two vents, one either side of the rear spine, on the upper fuselage just behind the heat exchanger inlet position. There are also two small intakes, one either side of the rear fuselage, above the 'Fire' access points just in front of the exhaust cans.
Fire away Neil - ok I'll lose one of the canon vent tubes, thankfully easily sorted. Thanks for the heads up on the other vents
Gary West
Oct 5 2007, 02:52 PM
QUOTE (Hector @ Oct 5 2007, 02:30 PM)

Are you going to put the cockpit kit, I heard that its not correct, but I dont know really.
I'm not sure - Im building an earlier T2 and hopefully that's correct? I know the T4 has glass cockpit screens which Neils conversion doesn't have, but hopefully it represents a good T2 - I'll let you know when I get ther Hector.
rdxtnt
Oct 5 2007, 03:41 PM
That's progressing very nicely Gary. A bit of useless info for you.... the gun vent tube Neil mentions was actually the ejection tube for the empty ammo cases. These were not retained after firing and were ejected from the rear of the gun and out of the aircraft.
Must admit I'm very impressed with the amount of people taking part in this GB. Would it be possible to put a post up saying how many people are participating and who is building what? We should have quite a collection at the end
Gary West
Oct 5 2007, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (rdxtnt @ Oct 5 2007, 04:41 PM)

Would it be possible to put a post up saying how many people are participating and who is building what? We should have quite a collection at the end

Thats not a bad idea -I'll have my man (an co mod) do it - Col, oh Col, where are you?
Bill Clark
Oct 5 2007, 03:55 PM
Some nice work their so far Gary....very inspiring and informative.....excellent!!!
Neil
Oct 5 2007, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Hector @ Oct 5 2007, 02:30 PM)

Are you going to put the cockpit kit, I heard that its not correct, but I dont know really.
Héctor
QUOTE (Gary West @ Oct 5 2007, 03:52 PM)

I'm not sure - Im building an earlier T2 and hopefully that's correct?
The conversion is correct for making a T2 (not a T4 though, but it does not take much to make it into a T4).
Thinking about it, it must be over 10 yrs since I did that conversion set? Doesn't time fly ....
Dr_Fester
Oct 5 2007, 07:22 PM
Neil,
Just read your T2 build thread, absolutely gob-smacked. If my jag turns out a tenth of your build I will be a happy chappie.
Doc
daz greenwood
Oct 5 2007, 07:22 PM
So will I lol
Mentalguru
Oct 6 2007, 07:31 AM
QUOTE (Gary West @ Oct 6 2007, 08:12 AM)

The very first couple of pictures on this thread doesn't show it so well, but last night as I tackled the wings, I quickly realised that I had cut the slats section incorrectly - the instruction shows a straight cut along the wing leading edge and yours truely just decided to ignore the instructions.
Sections of styrene were cut, glued in place, and then sanded to shape - re scribing still required.
Hmmmm...
Ok- I sort of understand.
Has Martin legged me up..? I only at present have the slats themselves- and NO instructions, and wasnt quite sure exactly what u had done. Are ther also the "fixed to the wing" parts included in the slat kit?
If not then one has to make this him/Jenself?
Straight line- where- doh- "whats go-ing on man" (best Neil out of the young Ones voice)
Gary West
Oct 6 2007, 07:40 AM
QUOTE (Mentalguru @ Oct 6 2007, 08:31 AM)

Are there also the "fixed to the wing" parts included in the slat kit?
Yep - looks like you cut a couple of recesses out of the wing leading edge, and the location for these would line up with the protruding bits on the back of the slat - if youve got them, take a look and it will make more sense
QUOTE (Mentalguru @ Oct 6 2007, 08:31 AM)

Straight line- where- doh- "whats go-ing on man" (best Neil out of the young Ones voice)
I'll try and take a pic of the instructions later Rich
MFord
Oct 6 2007, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (Mentalguru @ Oct 6 2007, 08:31 AM)

Hmmmm...
Ok- I sort of understand.
Has Martin legged me up..? I only at present have the slats themselves- and NO instructions, and wasnt quite sure exactly what u had done. Are ther also the "fixed to the wing" parts included in the slat kit?
If not then one has to make this him/Jenself?
Straight line- where- doh- "whats go-ing on man" (best Neil out of the young Ones voice)
Sorry Rich, I've just checked and I do still have two complete sets of instructions - I'll keep them aside for the next time you come over
Bill Clark
Oct 6 2007, 09:49 AM
One thing apparent Gary (and I've noted it my build) is that the section betwwen the flaps and the ailerons don't match up - I guess Airfix never indended them to be separated!!! - I see you've added plastic card and filler to fill the upper part.....does this match up with Neil's resin parts?
EDIT: Just seen "Palacefan's" posting -- nice one Wayne!
Takamota
Oct 10 2007, 01:54 PM
coming along nicely....very impressive
Rampage55
Oct 14 2007, 07:56 PM
.........

........Very nice!
Loki
Oct 19 2007, 01:35 PM
OOOOHHH mate, now that's special. How are you finding the Paragon fit? I know Neil posts on here so whisper lol

I'm kidding - very very nice Jag.
Gary West
Oct 19 2007, 02:43 PM
QUOTE (Loki @ Oct 19 2007, 02:35 PM)

How are you finding the Paragon fit?
Thanks Martin - I'm assuming you mean the nose to fuselage fit, which has been no trouble, and very neatly joined. In case you didnt mean the nose section, the other bits are just as easy.
J35 Draken
Feb 11 2008, 11:28 PM
Coming along nicely Dad, hope you actually get this finished for the end of the GB!
rdxtnt
Feb 11 2008, 11:37 PM
Looking very good Gary. Nice work on the refuelling probe. Something that's got me wondering lately.................. with the probe being placed in the nose I wonder where the pitot was moved to on the Omani t-birds. They must have had one somewhere but I can't see one in any photographs?
Gary.
periklis_sale
Feb 12 2008, 06:52 AM
excellent work mate!!!!
Cannot wait to see it finished!!!!
brooksy
Feb 12 2008, 08:22 PM
Gary,
that is a fine looking T2 you have built, and I'm sorry I missed this thread before. I hope my T2 comes out as nice. Your fitting of the Paragon flaps and slats is also perfect. I do think the Jag looks good with them all out!
Great job mate, keep up the excellent work. Looking forward to seeing the finished article!
Regards as always
Andy
speedy
Feb 13 2008, 09:36 AM
I'm surpised nobody's done one in the primer colour. I've seen a Sea Harrier (1/48) at shows and it looks really different.
Gary West
Feb 14 2008, 09:38 AM
QUOTE (brooksy @ Feb 12 2008, 08:22 PM)

I do think the Jag looks good with them all out!
Couldn't agree more Andy and thanks.
QUOTE (speedy @ Feb 13 2008, 09:36 AM)

I'm surpised nobody's done one in the primer colour. I've seen a Sea Harrier (1/48) at shows and it looks really different.
I've a couple of models destined for the primer finish but a Jag not being one of them - I've also seen pics of an FRS1 SHAR in primer, and they do look gooooood
No pics as yet, but the front wind screen is on and masked up, just trying to debate whether I should add the middle fixed canopy section before or after spraying as the canopies will be open.
Rampage55
Feb 15 2008, 04:09 AM
Stunning build Gary.

Mark
Takamota
Feb 16 2008, 09:20 PM
Some pretty neat work going on there Gary..... Looking forward to seeing it completed
brooksy
Feb 25 2008, 07:49 PM
Lovely work yet again Gary. You must be chuffed with how this is going. Can't wait to see it finished!
Regards
Andy
rdxtnt
Feb 25 2008, 11:20 PM
Looking great Gary. Can't wait to see the dark earth go on. Will look fantastic
Gary West
Feb 25 2008, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (rdxtnt @ Feb 25 2008, 11:20 PM)

Looking great Gary. Can't wait to see the dark earth go on. Will look fantastic

Cheers Gary/Andy - I've literally just come down from the loft, so coat No 1 is already on - hopefully some more pics tomorrow
bexwh773
Feb 25 2008, 11:25 PM
These 2 Kats are looking very nice, and Im looking forwards to seeing the end result

Bex
J35 Draken
Feb 26 2008, 03:41 PM
Coming along really nicely Dad. Just don't let the lack of decals slow you down with it!
Gary West
Feb 26 2008, 04:22 PM
QUOTE (J35 Draken @ Feb 26 2008, 03:41 PM)

Just don't let the lack of decals slow you down with it!
What, you mean all 4 of them
DamienB
Feb 26 2008, 05:26 PM
The sand/earth scheme is nice but the lack of any noticeable markings has always put me off bothering to do an Omani jet...
GrahamEM
Feb 26 2008, 07:06 PM
Super stuff !
periklis_sale
Feb 26 2008, 07:14 PM
nice cammo mate!!!!
Rich F
Mar 13 2008, 11:32 AM
Looking good Gary, have fun with the U/C!
rdxtnt
Mar 13 2008, 11:38 AM
She's looking really nice Gary

Know what you mean about the undercarriage.......... just done mine. It's very err............... theraputic!

Keep up the good work chap.
Gary.
Gary West
Mar 13 2008, 03:16 PM
QUOTE (Rich F @ Mar 13 2008, 11:32 AM)

Looking good Gary, have fun with the U/C!

Oh I will Rich

and thanks Gary.
Hopefully I can get the Centre canopy section under way tonight and hit the u/c over this weekend, which then just leaves a flat coat and then the best part - adding on all the assemblies.
daz greenwood
Mar 18 2008, 10:50 PM
Looks nice Gary.
Nice to see a Jag.
Notdoneyet
Mar 18 2008, 10:58 PM
Looking very good Gary
Ian
J35 Draken
Mar 18 2008, 11:12 PM
Looks stunning Dad, hope you finish this by the end of the group build!
Gary West
Mar 18 2008, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (J35 Draken @ Mar 18 2008, 11:12 PM)

hope you finish this by the end of the group build!
I will - 3rd time lucky I hope
Mike
Mar 18 2008, 11:40 PM
E R Gary... 'ow's about some pics of your gear bays then? Looking good thus far....
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