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plastic constructor
May 16 2007, 11:20 AM
Here's the usual box shot ...



... and this what I hope it will look like when it's done ...



... state of play at the moment ...



The body has received a base coat of Halfords grey plastic primer, I was going to use white primer and save on the masking for the white portion of the camo, but being bone idle, I already had the grey so on it went. The interior and rear bed have received a top coat of Vallejo 043 Olive Drab, it looks about right, but after the camo has been applied i'll weather it anyway.
The seating and radio components have simply been placed loosely for effect, the seats will remain black but will be distressed during the final weathering. I have to scratch build the short aerial on the n/s of the bed and i'm also tempted to have a go at detailing the radio gear ... we'll see how much patience I have left once i've masked and painted the camo.
So, the masking drawing has been done and printed, now it's find the tape, measure out the white portions of the camo and fire up the airbrush, not made up my mind yet if i'm using acrylics or enamels, but there's no rush at the moment, I'll make that decision when the masking tape is on.
Mike
May 16 2007, 12:05 PM
Quick progress! thumbsup.gif
plastic constructor
May 16 2007, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (Mike @ May 16 2007, 01:05 PM) *
Quick progress! thumbsup.gif

It's a nice kit Mike, although the chassis is a pain in the bum, lots of sink marks which involves a fair amount of filling, well, you don't have to but the voices tell me that if it's there it should be done ... wicked.gif

I was going to tackle the masking this afternoon, but following a late night, I got home home at 5am this morning and slept until dinner, so the day is almost gone for me seeing as I'm back in the driving seat at 5pm, but it's only for this week (hopefully).

Once I've decided on the paint medium (acrylic or enamel), I'll have a look through the paint charts for the camo scheme colours and get them sorted. I'd like to have this done for the MAFVA show at Duxford in June, but we'll see.

Nick.
seanrgb
May 16 2007, 06:03 PM
Ha she's looking good Nick
Hopefully I'll get my one started soon analintruder.gif
plastic constructor
May 17 2007, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (seanrgb @ May 16 2007, 07:03 PM) *
Ha she's looking good Nick
Hopefully I'll get my one started soon analintruder.gif


Move yourself lad! ... sleeping.gif

Nick.
Rory
May 17 2007, 02:56 PM
Does rebuilding a 1/1 scale Series2/3 count as pat of the group build?
plastic constructor
May 18 2007, 10:15 AM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 17 2007, 03:56 PM) *
Does rebuilding a 1/1 scale Series2/3 count as pat of the group build?


Definitely ... guitar.gif ... got any camo paint left?

Nick.
plastic constructor
May 18 2007, 11:05 AM
Quick update on the Landrover progress. I've decided to use The Vallejo Model Air range of acrylics, and the best matches for the colours required as far as I can see, are ...

RAL 7031 Blue / Grey ~ Vallejo #046 Pale Blue Grey
RAL 8025 Brown ~ Vallejo #035 Camouflage Light Brown
RAL 9010 White ~ Vallejo #001 White

So tomorrow (Saturday), it's down to the LMS with my shopping list, and I'm heading straight for the paint rack, score the deal and out again, no lingering over the kit shelves ... well, not for long anyway.

Nick.
plastic constructor
May 21 2007, 12:08 PM
Grrrrrrrr! ... masking for this scheme is a nightmare, so, I'm changing tack slightly. I intend to place the Landrover, presently painted in Olive Drab, into a workshop diorama where a couple of squaddies can have the joy of painting the bloody thing. I'll start off the camo scheme and then depict these blokes masking and painting the vehicle. I may just add a second vehicle and a bit of comedy into the scene, but it allows my imagination to run a little ...

evil_laugh.gif

So, I need a couple of 1/24th figures to convert, any ideas of what's available?

So, here's the progress so far, in Olive Drab ...



Nick.
Rory
May 21 2007, 12:35 PM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ May 18 2007, 11:15 AM) *
Definitely ... guitar.gif ... got any camo paint left?

Nick.


Not bought the paint yet. Although she is ex army we are not doing her in military colours as we will always get the anal saying such and such is wrong. Current projected scheme is two tone purple splinter sides over a silver lower portion with the top staying white.

Should raise an eyebrow or two.
plastic constructor
May 21 2007, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 21 2007, 01:35 PM) *
Not bought the paint yet. Although she is ex army we are not doing her in military colours as we will always get the anal saying such and such is wrong. Current projected scheme is two tone purple splinter sides over a silver lower portion with the top staying white.

Should raise an eyebrow or two.

Pimp my ride baby ... yea ... bouncy.gif

Nick.
Nev
May 22 2007, 12:48 PM
re: 1/24 Figures. If my maths are right, thats about 80mm. Its not as common as 54mm or 120mm, but you can get figures in that scale that could form the basis of a conversion. Best place to look would be the Historex website.
plastic constructor
May 22 2007, 02:35 PM
QUOTE (Nev @ May 22 2007, 01:48 PM) *
re: 1/24 Figures. If my maths are right, thats about 80mm. Its not as common as 54mm or 120mm, but you can get figures in that scale that could form the basis of a conversion. Best place to look would be the Historex website.

Cheers Nev, I believe Fujimi do a couple of sets ... I'm on it! ... thumbsup.gif

Nick.
plastic constructor
May 25 2007, 10:35 AM
OK, back on topic.

The build is progressing, I'm having a go at Landrover 2 which is another MKIII 109 and will be the section gopher, nothing special though and painted in Vallejo 043 Olive Drab, but it will have the canopy fitted. I've just got the sludge from Phil Flory so I may have a go at detailing and weathering, maybe even a knock in the bodywork, we'll see. The painting of the camo on Landrover 1 is stalled at the moment as I'm waiting on the paint from Panther Models, I ordered this stuff last weekend so it's a little slow.
Phil @ Flory Models
May 25 2007, 10:45 AM
Looks great Nick,

Lannies wub.gif
plastic constructor
May 25 2007, 11:52 AM
Cheers Phil.

I've had these kits for some years and it's about time they were built, but I wanted to do something different with them, this build gives me the chance. Now all I have to do is find a suitable sized base for two 1/24 Landrover's and a couple of figures and decide on what sort of ground they should be sitting on. My preference would be either concrete or a paved area.

Nick.
Phil @ Flory Models
May 25 2007, 12:15 PM
I have a soft spot for Lannies, as I had a Series 1, 86 inch rag top with serise 2 and 3 running gear and a ex MOD V8 engine in it ten years ago. Then the kids came along a try as I did the baby seats didn't go in, so I had to sell her for somthing less drafty and better mpg. Oh happy days
plastic constructor
May 25 2007, 12:26 PM
Have to admit to a soft spot myself. Just got rid of a 2.5 diesel Disco XS and before that I had a Range Rover 3.5 V8 ... what a tool! ... Now I've got a Volvo V40 Estate, and to be honest, it's the best car I've ever owned for fuel economy. But my true love was the Range Rover. Incidentally, I've got a couple of original Esci 1/24 range Rover kits in the stash ... but they're sitting ready for another build! ... ideas anyone?

Nick.
Mandrake
May 25 2007, 07:29 PM
Excellent work on such an interesting subject!

Bit concerned though because it has had been considering doing the same to the 1/76 JB kit!! shocked.gif
plastic constructor
May 25 2007, 08:32 PM
QUOTE (Mandrake @ May 25 2007, 08:29 PM) *
Excellent work on such an interesting subject!

Bit concerned though because it has had been considering doing the same to the 1/76 JB kit!! shocked.gif


Cheers Mandrake, why not have a go? ... don't fancy masking for that scheme in 1/76 though, it's bad enough in 1/24.

Nick.
Mandrake
May 25 2007, 10:42 PM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ May 25 2007, 09:32 PM) *
Cheers Mandrake, why not have a go? ... don't fancy masking for that scheme in 1/76 though, it's bad enough in 1/24.

Nick.


Think you've answered your own question there Nick wink.gif
plastic constructor
May 25 2007, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (Mandrake @ May 25 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Think you've answered your own question there Nick wink.gif


I've actually chickened out of painting the whole scheme, I'm going to place the landrover in a diorama where it's being prepared for the scheme ... rolleyes.gif

Nick.
Mandrake
May 26 2007, 02:22 PM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ May 25 2007, 11:56 PM) *
I've actually chickened out of painting the whole scheme, I'm going to place the landrover in a diorama where it's being prepared for the scheme ... rolleyes.gif

Nick.



1/24 Paint cans?

Bit tricky to get hold of some suitable 1/24 figures I'm guessing.
plastic constructor
May 26 2007, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (Mandrake @ May 26 2007, 03:22 PM) *
1/24 Paint cans?

Bit tricky to get hold of some suitable 1/24 figures I'm guessing.


Got hold of a Fujimi Mechanics set off Ebay, should be able to modify them and scratch a couple of paint cans.

Nick.
plastic constructor
May 27 2007, 08:30 AM
OK, hope to get into the workshop today, and as I'm still waiting for the paint to arrive for the FFR, I'll do a bit more on the section gopher. This will have the canvas tilt fitted, can anyone advise on the proper colour / shade for the canvas?

Nick.
Greg B
May 27 2007, 08:40 AM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ May 27 2007, 09:30 AM) *
OK, hope to get into the workshop today, and as I'm still waiting for the paint to arrive for the FFR, I'll do a bit more on the section gopher. This will have the canvas tilt fitted, can anyone advise on the proper colour / shade for the canvas?

Nick.


Hi Nick,
Normally if it has been in service for a little time it fades exceptionally quickly from an olive green to a sort of chalky grey around stress points such as folds, stitching and where the framework is. The rest of it will be a faded green. However if the wagon has been painted, squaddies never have a delicate touch on the canvas! So the Black IRR will be quite thick.
Your call matey, there are that many variables you technically can'g go wrong on the canvas colour!
plastic constructor
May 27 2007, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(Greg B @ May 27 2007, 09:40 AM) *
Hi Nick,
Normally if it has been in service for a little time it fades exceptionally quickly from an olive green to a sort of chalky grey around stress points such as folds, stitching and where the framework is. The rest of it will be a faded green. However if the wagon has been painted, squaddies never have a delicate touch on the canvas! So the Black IRR will be quite thick.
Your call matey, there are that many variables you technically can't go wrong on the canvas colour![/quote]

Cheers Greg ... PM inbound!
plastic constructor
May 28 2007, 06:12 PM
Decided to concentrate on Landrover 2 today which will have the Green / Black camo scheme. I decided to paint the main body in Vallejp 043 Olive Drab and allow it to dry. I also decided to have a go at painting and weathering the canvas. For the base coat, I used Vallejo 023 Hemp, once this was dry I mixed equal portions of Vallejo 023 Hemp and 010 Interior Green and gave the canvas a couple of flash coats. Once dry I added a few drops of 029 Dark Earth to the previous mix and coated the canvas until it looked right.

Phil Flory offers a selection of sludge washes which I managed to get hold of with the intention of using them on this build. I usually use Mig powders as a weathering medium and have become reasonably proficient, so using the sludge meant that I was starting from scratch, a fresh experience. I used the dark brown sludge as I wanted to darken the canvas in the first instance, and I'll lighten the ribs and seams near the end of the build. I'm pleased to say that the sludge did the job and I'll do a proper photo session later, but here's a quick look ...



... not bad for a first try with the sludge, and I'm told the canvas will go darker when I seal the effect, I'll get better Phil I promise.

Nick.
seanrgb
May 28 2007, 06:50 PM
Looks pretty good to me Nick
Phil @ Flory Models
May 28 2007, 07:22 PM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ May 28 2007, 07:12 PM) *
Decided to concentrate on Landrover 2 today which will have the Green / Black camo scheme. I decided to paint the main body in Vallejp 043 Olive Drab and allow it to dry. I also decided to have a go at painting and weathering the canvas. For the base coat, I used Vallejo 023 Hemp, once this was dry I mixed equal portions of Vallejo 023 Hemp and 010 Interior Green and gave the canvas a couple of flash coats. Once dry I added a few drops of 029 Dark Earth to the previous mix and coated the canvas until it looked right.

Phil Flory offers a selection of sludge washes which I managed to get hold of with the intention of using them on this build. I usually use Mig powders as a weathering medium and have become reasonably proficient, so using the sludge meant that I was starting from scratch, a fresh experience. I used the dark brown sludge as I wanted to darken the canvas in the first instance, and I'll lighten the ribs and seams near the end of the build. I'm pleased to say that the sludge did the job and I'll do a proper photo session later, but here's a quick look ...



... not bad for a first try with the sludge, and I'm told the canvas will go darker when I seal the effect, I'll get better Phil I promise.

Nick.


Bloody hell Nick that's brilliant!. I clicked on the pic before reading your post and said that rag top is good to the Mrs. You mean that was the wash, that's great.

Lanny looks fantastic.
Greg B
May 28 2007, 07:30 PM
Looking very good indeed, especially the Tarp.
Just as an aside and speaking from very personal experience. The bumpers at the back are nearly always dented. If you are trying to reverse at night in forests with no lights and its bucketing down. Well you can imagine the rest because there is no way on this earth your oppo is going to get out to guide you! raincloud.gif
Its no biggie, 5 minutes work with a lump hammer and a tin of black IRR and its all coshe again. thumbsup.gif
Mind you I managed to back into a Warrior in Bosnia, bright sunlit day and a big white painted warrior. Good job you cant dent chobham! However it cost me a few crates of beer because I was spotted. Bugger!!!
The tow hook can also be any colour from black to green to red lead primer and every layer in between. Might add a bit of interest.
REgards
Greg
Rory
May 28 2007, 08:08 PM
At my Squadron (34 Field) all our vehicles failed a PRE because of painted NATO's. The one I now have sat on my living room side board took me ages to strip back to bare metal and i am going this week to get some bolts to fit it to my 1/1 109 Station Wagon.

Do you want me to take some phots of an ex military landrover for you (Series II 88 GS ragtop)
Greg B
May 28 2007, 08:27 PM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 28 2007, 09:08 PM) *
At my Squadron (34 Field) all our vehicles failed a PRE because of painted NATO's. The one I now have sat on my living room side board took me ages to strip back to bare metal and i am going this week to get some bolts to fit it to my 1/1 109 Station Wagon.

Do you want me to take some phots of an ex military landrover for you (Series II 88 GS ragtop)


When were you at the Beach Rory?
plastic constructor
May 28 2007, 09:20 PM
Ayup Phil,

The tarp is better in the daylight, unfortunately, the picture I placed on the site doesn't do it justice. I used the grey wash first but opted eventually for the dark brown. I think practice and a gentle touch are called for when removing the excess after it's dried, but I won't give up. The bodywork on Landrover 2 will get the 'Flory' treatment and I'll take a few studio shots when they're both finished.

Greg,

The idea for the bumper is good, leave it with me.

Rory,

Yes please mate, I always attempt to get some sort of reference, what better than have photos of the real thing.

Oh, thought you all may like to see one I did earler, several years earlier ...



... it's the same kit and won a couple of trophies in competition. It still survives and now lives with a very nice bloke who loves collecting Landrover models.

Nick.
Rory
May 29 2007, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(Greg B @ May 28 2007, 09:27 PM) *
When were you at the Beach Rory?[/quote]


89 to 91 when I got kicked out. Did a stint in the gulf with 3 Sqn Tidworth ,10/12/90 to 20/04/91( I was on leave when "volunteers" were called for!)
Greg B
May 29 2007, 08:52 AM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 29 2007, 07:31 AM) *
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greg B @ May 28 2007, 09:27 PM) *</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When were you at the Beach Rory?
89 to 91 when I got kicked out. Did a stint in the gulf with 3 Sqn Tidworth ,10/12/90 to 20/04/91( I was on leave when "volunteers" were called for!)


Joined the Hitler Youth in March 89 and tipped up to 60 Fd Sp Circus in April 90... Probably spilt beer on each other in the Taps drink.gif
Rory
May 29 2007, 09:43 AM
You must know Kermit and Cpl Terry Burke then.
Greg B
May 29 2007, 03:04 PM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 29 2007, 10:43 AM) *
You must know Kermit and Cpl Terry Burke then.


Nige Kerwin? And I know Terry Burke. Havent seen them since 92 though.
Rory
May 31 2007, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(Greg B @ May 29 2007, 04:04 PM) *
Nige Kerwin? And I know Terry Burke. Havent seen them since 92 though.[/quote]


I served with them in Saudi along with another 60Sqn bod also called Nige. Terry used to let me cab his Crusader about although I never managed EVER to park it straight between the others. My TM66 was a 60 Sqn beasty , it got back before I did but , sadly , without my gizzits as I binned all them because I was told that the vehicle wasn't coming home. BASTARD MOD.
plastic constructor
Jun 1 2007, 11:04 PM
Just to prove what a small world this really is, I met up this evening with Greg B at our monthly club meeting here in Derbyshire. I noticed Greg lived in neighbouring Nottingham and invited him to come along following the contact here on the forum, and I took along the Landrovers I'm doing for the group build. Thanks for the information on the camo and the Landrover headlamps Greg, and good luck with the move to Chatham, and hope to see you at Beltring in July.

Nick.
Greg B
Jun 1 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (Rory @ May 31 2007, 10:20 PM) *
cool.gif--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Greg B @ May 29 2007, 04:04 PM) *</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nige Kerwin? And I know Terry Burke. Havent seen them since 92 though.
I served with them in Saudi along with another 60Sqn bod also called Nige. Terry used to let me cab his Crusader about although I never managed EVER to park it straight between the others. My TM66 was a 60 Sqn beasty , it got back before I did but , sadly , without my gizzits as I binned all them because I was told that the vehicle wasn't coming home. BASTARD MOD.


We must have met then as I was out there as well. Probably on Stag being the troop sprog!!! blush.gif
Greg B
Jun 1 2007, 11:15 PM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ Jun 2 2007, 12:04 AM) *
Just to prove what a small world this really is, I met up this evening with Greg B at our monthly club meeting here in Derbyshire. I noticed Greg lived in neighbouring Nottingham and invited him to come along following the contact here on the forum, and I took along the Landrovers I'm doing for the group build. Thanks for the information on the camo and the Landrover headlamps Greg, and good luck with the move to Chatham, and hope to see you at Beltring in July.

Nick.


Twas quite an enjoyable evening as well Nick, typical that I find a club the week before I move! Don't forget to bring lots of money to Beltring so the Lovely Mr Clarke can lull you into a false sense of security with his woolly jumpers, free cups of coffee and chockie biccies. He's an evil man I tell ya!!!!!!
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Mike
Jun 1 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(Greg B @ Jun 2 2007, 12:15 AM) *
Twas quite an enjoyable evening as well Nick, typical that I find a club the week before I move! Don't forget to bring lots of money to Beltring so the Lovely Mr Clarke can lull you into a false sense of security with his woolly jumpers, free cups of coffee and chockie biccies. He's an evil man I tell ya!!!!!!
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Oh yeah, he's evil alright, and I don't even get to see his wooly jumpers or consume his coffee & biccies weep.gif
plastic constructor
Jun 2 2007, 09:22 AM
QUOTE
... Oh yeah, he's evil alright, and I don't even get to see his wooly jumpers or consume his coffee & biccies weep.gif


Right then, where is Bill's shop? ... sounds like a place to visit while we're at Beltring.
Greg B
Jun 2 2007, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (plastic constructor @ Jun 2 2007, 10:22 AM) *
Right then, where is Bills's shop? ... sounds like a place to visit while we're at Beltring.


Sunny Sittingbourne. Just follow the A2 into it from the North and you will come down a hill to a sharp left turn junction which has got a pedestrian crossing. Just before that on the right hand side is Bills Shop. 55 West street. But I'm warning you, he is like Arkwright!!!!!!! wink.gif
plastic constructor
Jun 2 2007, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(Greg B @ Jun 2 2007, 10:33 AM) *
Sunny Sittingbourne. Just follow the A2 into it from the North and you will come down a hill to a sharp left turn junction which has got a pedestrian crossing. Just before that on the right hand side is Bills Shop. 55 West street. But I'm warning you, he is like Arkwright!!!!!!! wink.gif[/quote]

Cheers Greg, I'll look in while I'm down at Beltring ... sounds like an emporium I should enjoy, I'll take Ian Sadler (IPMS (UK) Armour SIG Leader) with me to distract him. ... analintruder.gif

Nick.
plastic constructor
Jun 4 2007, 08:38 AM
Anyway, back on topic. I visited the Newcastle show yesterday for the first time in years and managed to speak with the supplier I ordered the paints from for this build, three weeks ago. Apologies accepted and the stuff should be with me today (Monday), there'll be tears if it isn't. I also bought a bargain, more on that in a later post and possibly a marathon stage by stage group build suggestion later in the year.

I now have information about the way in which headlamps are installed on the 109 in military service (cheers GregB and Fatty), the outer headlamp cover, supplied with the kit is not used. Following the conversation with GregB and Fatty at the recent club night, I intend to add a little damage in certain areas on the Landrover which apparently, is quite common, upper front wing, bonnet, tailgate, front and rear fenders.

As for the missing kit parts, I have a plan in place. DaveT sorted out a built model he no longer requires and hopefully, it should be on its way to me shortly, where it will be ruthlessly scavenged for missing bits and spare parts ... I feel this diorama growing!

Nick.
plastic constructor
Jun 8 2007, 10:07 AM
The Landrover for spares arrived this morning, cheers Dave. I now have enough bits and pieces to complete both the Landrovers for the diorama. But I now have a slight dilemma, do I use the third Landrover somehow in the diorama? ... decisions ... decisions! ... undecided.gif

Nick.
plastic constructor
Jun 12 2007, 12:00 PM
Finally got back into the workshop this morning to do a bit on Landrover 2, which if you remember will be the section runabout, and painted in Green / Black camo. Just shot the first layers of Black onto the body and tilt, it's coming on a treat. When the paint is totally dry, I'll attempt to make it look as though a squaddie has had a stiff paintbrush on the truck ... seems a shame to spoil a neat airbrush job though?

Then I have to think about a bit of damage to the bodywork and bumpers, plus the associated repair and paintwork, all clever stuff this!

Ah well, time for a quick coffee and then hang the washing out and then ... well, we'll see. I'll post a couple of photos of the progress as soon as I can, I would like this done for Duxford at the weeekend though.

Nick.
plastic constructor
Jun 13 2007, 08:48 AM
Just a quick question before I start work on the base for this diorama. It's set in Germany during the 80's, possibly a REME workshop. So, I have the option of either a concrete base, no problem there, that's easy enough to do, but how about a brick or cobble base?

I need to know what size German bricks are in order to replicate a reasonable base. Here's a photo of another project I have on the go at the moment, it's a 1/16 traction engine. The bricks shown are 120mm scale bricks from 'Great North Roads', and I've still got enough to construct a base for this diorama, they were ideal for the traction engine diorama as I was replicating an early 1900's yard with 9" x 4" x 4" imperial bricks ...



... so folks, what do you think, can they be used for a German yard?

Nick.
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