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Gary West
Replacement for the Brick will be the mighty Canberra. I've got a couple of TT18's a T17 and a B2, so just looking for an interesting scheme now.

EDIT - TT18 85 Sqn RAF Binbrook 1968

Grant
Here is a very dark scheme Gary.



Taken in Aden in 1963. Cool fin flash. Can't say I have any more info though. Still waiting for my Dad to provide captions!

cheers

Grant
Grant
DoH! The Meteor pics came up fine, but I just can't get the Canberra one to appear at all. bur2.gif

Mind you it is 22:50. Maybe a mod. could point out my silly mistake, cos I sure can't spot it. please.gif

cheers (and good night!)

Grant
Cop
There you go. the JPG had to be in caps.
Gary West
For anyone not familiar with the Classic Airframes Canberra family, a quick look see and one of the big PLUS features. Each kit comes with a comprehensive package of resin parts - the CA models do have their short falls (plastic too thick - panel lines not consistent in depth etc) but the resin bits are a joy.

Cockpit & undercarriage parts:


Rushton Target pods:
jenshb
Looking forward to following this build Gary. Just remember to do something about that nosegear.

Jens
Gary West
QUOTE (jenshb @ May 7 2007, 11:52 AM) *
Looking forward to following this build Gary. Just remember to do something about that nosegear.

Jens


Your ahead of me there Jens - is it wrong or do you mean strengthen it?
PHREAK
QUOTE (Gary West @ May 6 2007, 10:00 PM) *
Replacement for the Brick will be the mighty Canberra. I've got a couple of TT18's a T17 and a B2, so just looking for an interesting scheme now.

EDIT - TT18 85 Sqn RAF Binbrook 1968


Hi Gary

As far as I'm aware, 85 squadron didn't fly TT18s.
Types used : B2, PR3, T4,T11,T19

Use your B2 for an 85 squadron a/c

Rich
PHREAK
QUOTE (Grant @ May 6 2007, 10:37 PM) *
Here is a very dark scheme Gary.



Taken in Aden in 1963. Cool fin flash. Can't say I have any more info though. Still waiting for my Dad to provide captions!

cheers

Grant

Hi Grant

That'll probably be a B(I)8 of 213 Squadron....the hornet gives it away. 213 were at Bruggen in the early 60's when my dad was flying PR7s of 80 squadron.

The 'grey' scheme will be Grey/Green over Black.

HTH
Gary West
QUOTE (PHREAK @ May 7 2007, 01:57 PM) *
Hi Gary

As far as I'm aware, 85 squadron didn't fly TT18s.
Types used : B2, PR3, T4,T11,T19

Use your B2 for an 85 squadron a/c

Rich


Your absolutely right Rich- thanks for spotting that mate. She's gonna be a T19 then - can't see much difference between a T19 & the TT18 though?
PHREAK
QUOTE (Gary West @ May 7 2007, 04:35 PM) *
Your absolutely right Rich- thanks for spotting that mate. She's gonna be a T19 then - can't see much difference between a T19 & the TT18 though?

Except a bloody great black pointy nose on a T19!
Grant
QUOTE (Cop @ May 7 2007, 12:01 AM) *
There you go. the JPG had to be in caps.


Thanks Cop! Capitals indeed, Doh!

213 Sqdn - Thanks Phreak.
PHREAK
QUOTE (Grant @ May 7 2007, 05:43 PM) *
Thanks Cop! Capitals indeed, Doh!

213 Sqdn - Thanks Phreak.

WT316 was a B(I)6....just googled it instead of guessing!
J35 Draken
QUOTE (PHREAK @ May 7 2007, 05:04 PM) *
Except a bloody great black pointy nose on a T19!

laugh.gif This is a T19 Dad, not the most attractive of Canberra's. sick.gif
Gary West
QUOTE (PHREAK @ May 7 2007, 05:04 PM) *
Except a bloody great black pointy nose on a T19!



Except on this one maybe??? Model Alliance On target Profile, shows this a/c as a T19 but with a standard nose configuration. Of course the book could be wrong. She is coded WH714. This a/c looks exactly like a TT18.
PHREAK
QUOTE (J35 Draken @ May 7 2007, 06:06 PM) *
laugh.gif This is a T19 Dad, not the most attractive of Canberra's. sick.gif

Don't be so harsh young man!
Gary West
ok - this is what the book says? HELP!



Col.
Jeez Gary, you're not having much luck with starting your projects mate. If you want to return to the Bucc I have the Neomega 'pit you can use. It'll be a while before I get a chance to build the three in my stash and you can send me another once they come back into stock.
PHREAK
QUOTE (Gary West @ May 7 2007, 06:21 PM) *
ok - this is what the book says? HELP!




Hi gary
I suspect that On Target Profiles 7 is wrong! I've got it in front of me but I'm afraid that I can't confirm the reference from the English Electric Canberra book as I don't have it to hand.
Let me put it another way, the T19 was just a T11 with a nose full of concrete rather than a Ferranti radar....the drawing is of a TT18 (TT standing for Target Tug.....that's a fair clue!).
WH714 was a T11 converted to a T19 and looking at my reference@Canberra - the operational record" by Robert jackson, WH714 was never a TT18 so I suspect that Jon Freeman has messed up his research.

Anybody got the missing book to hand so as to confirm this ?

Rich
jenshb
QUOTE (Gary West @ May 7 2007, 12:34 PM) *
Your ahead of me there Jens - is it wrong or do you mean strengthen it?


The pics I have seen of Canberras show a very typical nose down (or tail up if you like) stance, but judging by photos of completed CA Canberras seen on Hyperscale among other sites, the fuselage sits too level. I think Brett Green corrected his second Canberra build.

Jens
Gary West
Slow progress, still working on the Phantom. Worked on the wings, rescribing completely.

The fit of the engine nacelles to the main wing is extremely poor - no matter how I attempted the fit, I had a step to deal with which I just sanded down until it disappeared.



The resin wheel bays were painted up and given a wash of raw umber



The biggest annoyance so far is CA's ommision to cut out the rear seat windows, which you need to do yourself. I drilled these out but still have some gap filling to take care of



Next the cocpit
daz greenwood
Lokking good Gary. The Canberra was one of my dad's favourite aircraft.
Sebastien
Hi,

As I practice the art of being very wrong quite often, I'd say you should build complete fuselage halves before assembling them.
I tried the other way.
It's a disaster.





S.
Mike
QUOTE (Sebastien @ May 11 2007, 09:22 AM) *
As I practice the art of being very wrong quite often, I'd say you should build complete fuselage halves before assembling them.
I tried the other way.
It's a disaster.

Warning heeded, thanks smile.gif
Mentalguru
[quote name='Sebastien' date='May 11 2007, 09:22 AM' post='12235']
Hi,

As I practice the art of being very wrong quite often, I'd say you should build complete fuselage halves before assembling them.
I tried the other way.
It's a disaster.

Your statement...

+++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++

Cucumber error- sounds painful- cam you explain please... too early in the day for photos though...

Sudden flash of inspiriation- from what I have seen of canv„berra fuselage joints- its poss better to paint a cucumber and use that as the fuselage... :whistling:
Gary West
QUOTE (Sebastien @ May 11 2007, 09:22 AM) *
As I practice the art of being very wrong quite often, I'd say you should build complete fuselage halves before assembling them.
I tried the other way.
It's a disaster.


Seb - Yes I saw this same tip on a few builds shortly after CA released this kit. Plus the 100Kg of nose weight needed!
Sebastien
QUOTE (Metalguru @ May 11 2007, 11:14 AM) *
+++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++

Cucumber error- sounds painful- cam you explain please... too early in the day for photos though...


Have you read Terry Pratchett's Hogfather?
The magical computer (Hex) has some very peculiar error messages (like +++ Out of cheese error - Redo from start +++), and I liked that one so much I decided to use it as a signature...

Another funny mistake I made on the T17 was to cyano some lead inside the nose part without blowing air to cool the stuff down while the CA was curing.



The surface detail has gone AWOL. Ain't that surprising?

S.
Mentalguru
QUOTE (Sebastien @ May 11 2007, 10:29 AM) *
Have you read Terry Pratchett's Hogfather?
The magical computer (Hex) has some very peculiar error messages (like +++ Out of cheese error - Redo from start +++), and I liked that one so much I decided to use it as a signature...

Another funny mistake I made on the T17 was to cyano some lead inside the nose part without blowing air to cool the stuff down while the CA was curing.



The surface detail has gone AWOL. Ain't that surprising?

S.


You are SO unlucky mate- you melted the model up and ended with a dolphin shape patch- if it had been the face of christ you could have sold it for billions

Post edit- 1o seconds and counting....
Sebastien
QUOTE (Metalguru @ May 11 2007, 11:32 AM) *
You are SO unlucky mate- you melted the model up and ended with a dolphin shape patch- if it had been the face of christ you could have sold it for billions


thumbsup.gif
Gary West
I've noticed several photos of Canberra's parked up with both Rudder and horizonatal stabiliser flaps off centre - The back end of a Canberra is a bit boring, so I spent the morning cutting these out with a sharp knife. I'll detail the insides up a bit too.



Leigh
Aaah another brave soul enters into the domain of Crappic Airframes, good luck mate.
Bill Clark
I've two in the stash..a B2 that will be a T4 and a T17.....warts and all eh?

Having built a few CA meat-boxes in the past I thought that the cranberries shouldn't be that difficult..looking at your pic's I'm not too sure ...

What was Jules think abount with those half-arsed extended airbrakes in the wing!!

Bring on the Airfix Cranberries....
Nev
Well, I *was* thinking of getting myself a CA Canberra to do for my dad, but looking at these builds, I don't think I'll bother.....

(we need a fill and sand smilie)
Gary West
QUOTE (Bill Clark @ May 12 2007, 05:18 PM) *
Bring on the Airfix Cranberries....


Well lets hope Airfix can improve on the CA kits - if they can were laughing, because it will be a fine kit Bill.
Bill Clark
QUOTE (Gary West @ May 14 2007, 04:30 PM) *
Well lets hope Airfix can improve on the CA kits - if they can were laughing, because it will be a fine kit Bill.


I just hope it is too!! The Nimrod is being tooled by Trumpeter, AFAIK the Canberra's are too...bring on the PR9!!!
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