Troy Smith

No. Not uncommon to see on models though. RAF roundel positions were specified. Underwing can vary, but it's is very very rare to see not is specified position fuselage roundels. RAF codes are a very complex subject, the short being is study photos as they were dependent on Squadron painter, so no real 'font' and there was no specified code running order. They tend to be consistent in a Squadron at a given time, though the code running order could change over time. The rules on colour were usually followed. The only real rule is you don't split the two letter Squadron code. The more you look, the more variations you find. I don't think this is commonly understood though. I know this is off topic but was misleading and hopefully helpful though it's a real rabbit hole... JaPo Me262 KG(J) units has example of a slight mismatch, but these should be symmetrical. HTH

At some point someone linked a bit of film, a newsreel of supplies to India I think. It had film of a Hurricane being repainted with spray guns, short sequence from IIRC about 25 mins. I think this was lost as a bookmark on old laptop. Searches have not brought this up. Anyone recall this? Any screen shots went with laptop or on a comp I can't easily access. @Dave Swindell ? Thanks in advance

I'd say probable. In general the RAF was good at following paint orders, these went through an MU to enter service so they had Dark Green etc You occasionally see variations but look at white serial Spitfires which are a SEAC quirk, and they don't show obvious overpaint. I'll try to find that film. EDIT no luck on film, but there is this.... Still worth a read.

Yes, but they were delivered in, most or all, Day Fighter Scheme, and when Dark Earth was applied so were roundels, so they would use Dark Green as well, also to remove Sky band and yellow leading edges. There is film of in theatre repaints, I'll link if I can find. I don't recall seeing over paint discs on Hurricanes, so unless you can find a image showing otherwise I'd go for a standard camo, though they may have less tight demarcation. Again study photos. There are pics of XIV with big green discs, but these stayed DFS. Example, note Sky band. HTH

They were posted on the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board, now archive only, but are from ebay auctions. I've seen a few more in correspondence. Not run across a higher res version, but this is 'enough' in that it shows all the important details, the G, roundel size and rudder stripes, including the background, the hangar appears in other shots, other images fill in the details, the wreck images show useful details, like the aluminium paint internally and the fabric inner wing panel. Combined they make a near walkround which is a rare treat. HTH

From photos, very rarely. I know of FOUR photos that show the outer well to be a different colour to the wing underside, two are 610 in the BoB, one a training airframe, one an oddity, a Spitfire Vc in Sicily. I've been meaning to do a post on this... just laziness about collating pics. The gear legs are not something to repaint casually so they do tend to remain the factory colour. Example, from the Spitfire maintenance instruction film, This is factory finish This is probably same airframe after undersides painted "Sky" the leg remains White, compare edge of door in sun with undercowl in sun, the well is Sky, or it would appear lighter, the roundel is "grinning" through the Sky overpaint. The roundel showing through makes me wonder how the Night side looks, but I suspect that it was a lot easier to overpaint the White but not the roundel. Kōtare are very good on research but I'd like some photos, as you can see the difference in a reasonable photo. I'll tag you when I do the post on this as its still debated. See here for more https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234974004-question-for-wwii-aircraft-manufacturing-experts/#elControls_1851442_menu HTH

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Stretching sprue should not smell bad, if it does you have burnt the plastic. It has the advantage of being able to select a colour and adjust the thickness. Human hair works. It's a got a bit of spring to it as well, this courtesy of daughter's hairbrush... Glued with tiny dots of superglue, use a needle to apply. The 60's Frog Hurricane in Irish Air Corps markings. HTH

No, right place and reasonably worded question, though you can edit to "111 Squadron night fighter Spitfire Vb JU-T, photo source?" AIMS is here as @Aims but's not often on here. I've corresponded with John, he's interested in getting things right, the pics maybe from Farcebook, and not turning up via google AH, OK googled "spitfire nightfighter ju-t" https://www.facebook.com/groups/811765288916408/posts/9474904365935747/ Save this, Farcebook use dynamic URLs which change IBG have this HTH

Don't use a black wash. I make my own from artist oils and use lighter fuel as solvent. A dirty grey is good, start with burnt umber, and black and white, black is a strong pigment so use sparingly. Before After A dirty grey wash will shadow the panel lines but subtly. You can also use a fine pencil for this. The PR XI looks great in the civil markings

RM619, well known image which is why it ended up in the Frog kit RAF codes are the wild card of RAF markings, an much underappreciated and misunderstood detail, there was no font, the specified size didn't fit, and there was no code running order. A quick look has not turned up a image of 130 Sq starboard side, so could be AP-D or D-AP If I find an answer I'll add it in. They were done by the squadron painter, and are usually consistent in a unit at a given time. But not always.... What this means is you can work from a photo The roundel is 36 inch, the serial is 8 inch high, the sky band is 18 inch wide. The yellow and white ring are 2 inch wide. 20 inch high was pretty common on Spitfires, and the look about right, and the letter stroke width looks to be 4 inch. This is just eyeballed from the photo BTW, I would actually check, but my point is you have items in the photo of know dimensions to work from. If you know anyone with a stencil cutter it would be pretty easy to trace the photo and work from that. it's an IWM image, https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205127136 This has a zoom facility HTH

At the time that would likely all that was known. And it was a long time ago, it's easy to forget just how much has now been collated and corrected via forums, here in particular. And there is the issue unless you happen to hang out here for amusement and like collating data(what me..) then how are you supposed to know.... A looks like Model Alliance, not the most reliable. I'd need to dig out the info about the chakra roundels, but the short is that this info was found by the author of Spitfires in the Sun, whose an Indian Air Force officer, that found the documentation in the archives. I'll link the threads when I find them. HTH

The Indian Air Force only had Mk.18s, and the backing for the chakra roundel was yellow, though neither of these is widely known. I'd suggest editing the thread heading to " later FR Spitfire/ Seafire camera layout" as that is really your question. But AFAIK they all had the oblique port and two belly ports. (By posting vague tosh from memory someone is bound to correct me )

Possibly, but the hangar doors are a dark green, and PR types are noted for experimental schemes.... I don't recall seeing this film, or still of any of it before, and discussions on here do often turn up new information and connections. Interesting image, note non standard pattern around cockpit Interesting history as well X4492 PRIII 1296 EA MIII FF 14-9-40 RAE 17-9-40 PDU HAL Cv PRIV(W) PRU 14-11-40 R-RH Cv Va M45 18-4-41 1PRU 29-4-41 u/c collapsed and tipped on nose landing Benson satellite CA 2-7-41 P/O J Morgan safe 8MU 15-11-41 Cv PRVII Type F AAEE Cv proto FVI M47 extended wing tips known as experimental aircraft 152 to ROC. trls with 3 and 4 blade props 140Sq 12-2-42 e/f f/l SW Sandown CB 22-4-42 P/O FJ Blackwood safe HAL 22-4-42 9MU 21-6-42 140Sq 12MU 27-7-42 Benson 29-10-42 47MU 5-12-42 Manchester 'Manchester Progress' 16-1-43 Rockcliffe Canada 17-2-43 36in telephoto camera trls 7-43 Used to photo total eclipse of sun 9-7-45 F24 oblique install to sight upwards. Pilot FLt Percival

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235169110-1941-raf-flight-tests-captured-german-me-110-american-b-17-service-trials-rare-colour-footage/#comment-5517884 PR Spitfire X4495, unpainted deep cowl, uppers look Dark Earth(?) , with an 8 on rudder I now the colour balance is pretty poor but watch the film, there is a link to time. X4495 PRIII 1383 EA MIII RAE 4-1-41 PDU HAL Cv PRIII Type C ETPS Farnborough 10-3-41 1PRU 18-3-41 Missing from PR mission to Cambrai CE 3-5-41 F/O W Panton+ FH44:50 link to time https://youtu.be/Xiuce59zZFQ?t=141 @ben_m @Andy Fletcher @gingerbob Anyone know where footage shot?