Percival Gull, Amy's aircraft Options

[weeman]

Hi fellow modellers,
It's the 'wee man' back on the Amy Johnson kick. Don't think I have asked this before, but does anyone know the colour scheme of Amy's Percival Gull 6 (G-ADZO) that she flew to Capetown. The only image I can find is a B&W one, and the colour looks all over silver or aluminium with black registration. I have seen a 'dinky toy' of this aircraft which is overall yellow, but I wouldn't think that is correct. I have searched the web without success. I'm afraid the 'thirties' doesn't appear to have been documenter very well. I have my information and kit bits to start building, but without the colour info I will be guessing. So, it's over to you in the hope that someone may have some obscure documentation that will reveal all.

Regards

Andy

[John Aero]

Hi fellow modellers,
It's the 'wee man' back on the Amy Johnson kick. Don't think I have asked this before, but does anyone know the colour scheme of Amy's Percival Gull 6 (G-ADZO) that she flew to Capetown. The only image I can find is a B&W one, and the colour looks all over silver or aluminium with black registration. I have seen a 'dinky toy' of this aircraft which is overall yellow, but I wouldn't think that is correct. I have searched the web without success. I'm afraid the 'thirties' doesn't appear to have been documenter very well. I have my information and kit bits to start building, but without the colour info I will be guessing. So, it's over to you in the hope that someone may have some obscure documentation that will reveal all.

Regards

Andy

I would go with the Silver and Black. It was actually owned by H.L. Brook. Probably only borrowed by AJ for the Cape flight. It was also used for a Cape to Heston flight by Brook soon after. Scrapped 1938.

John

This post has been edited by John Aero: Feb 9 2010, 10:43 AM

[DCRanger]

I don't know how reliable it is but here's a photo of the Dinky toy which shows silver and mid blue.

[weeman]

I would go with the Silver and Black. It was actually owned by H.L. Brook. Probably only borrowed by AJ for the Cape flight. It was also used for a Cape to Heston flight by Brook soon after. Scrapped 1938.

John

Hi John Aero,
Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the response. I thought it looked overall silve as well. The only doubt I had was the wing colour. The 'thirties' really was really not very well documented. I can find plenty of info on 'Jason' etc, but everything else is obscure. Still, if there is no info, I cannot be proved wrong, can I !!!

Best Regards

Andy

[weeman]

I don't know how reliable it is but here's a photo of the Dinky toy which shows silver and mid blue.

Hi DCRanger,
Thanks for your response. You have thrown another 'spanner' in the works. Now I am totally confused. I wonder where 'dinky' got their info. As I said in my first posting, I found a pic of the same 'toy' (!) painted overall yellow. Where do I go from here is the question.

Regards

Andy

[blimp]

have you checked this site ? http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/sea...mp;x=20&y=8

[John Aero]

Hi DCRanger,
Thanks for your response. You have thrown another 'spanner' in the works. Now I am totally confused. I wonder where 'dinky' got their info. As I said in my first posting, I found a pic of the same 'toy' (!) painted overall yellow. Where do I go from here is the question.

Regards

Andy

I would be very wary of Dinky toy colours as they often marketed them in diferent schemes but used the same transfers. As I have mentioned before overall silver was the lightest paintwork with good u/v qualities. Wings were very often silver in the 30's. An alternative fuselage colour for Percivals was a pale Turquoise blue.

John

This post has been edited by John Aero: Feb 10 2010, 12:48 PM

[weeman]

have you checked this site ? http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/sea...mp;x=20&y=8

Hi Blimp,
Thanks for your reply. I've had a look at this site before. Plenty of Jean Batten but not much Amy Johnson I'm afraid. Still, I greatly appreciate your contact
Best Regards
Andy

[weeman]

I would be very wary of Dinky toy colours as they often marketed them in diferent schemes but used the same transfers. As I have mentioned before overall silver was the lightest paintwork with good u/v qualities. Wings were very often silver in the 30's. An alternative fuselage colour for Percivals was a pale Turquoise blue.

John

Hi John Aero,
Thanks for the post. I know what you mean about 'dinky' toys. They tended to use a lot of 'artistical licence' for advertising and selling. However, the version I have seen on e-bay had a pale blue fuselage and silver wings. I'd like to think that was the genuine colour scheme, although without colour photo proof I cannot be certain. I don't think I am ever going to find out the true colours. I guess I will have to use a bit of ' artistical licence' myself !!!

Best Regards

Andy

[John Aero]

Hi John Aero,
Thanks for the post. I know what you mean about 'dinky' toys. They tended to use a lot of 'artistical licence' for advertising and selling. However, the version I have seen on e-bay had a pale blue fuselage and silver wings. I'd like to think that was the genuine colour scheme, although without colour photo proof I cannot be certain. I don't think I am ever going to find out the true colours. I guess I will have to use a bit of ' artistical licence' myself !!!

Best Regards

Andy

Where did you find the photo of Amy's Gull? The tonal differences should be quite clear.

John

[weeman]

Where did you find the photo of Amy's Gull? The tonal differences should be quite clear.

John

Hi John,
The only picture I could find is the on in the link below. I have got other pictures of Amy and G-ADZO but it is in a crowd setting and you can't really tell the colouring. I have found some more references to G-ADZO in the National Archives, but I guess it will be quite pricy to obtain copies. I could always go to London and chec for myself, but it will still cost quite a bit. Then again, I would think they will be monochrome. However, back to artist licence I guess.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/civil/amy.htm


Best Regards

Andy

[John Aero]

Hi John,
The only picture I could find is the on in the link below. I have got other pictures of Amy and G-ADZO but it is in a crowd setting and you can't really tell the colouring. I have found some more references to G-ADZO in the National Archives, but I guess it will be quite pricy to obtain copies. I could always go to London and chec for myself, but it will still cost quite a bit. Then again, I would think they will be monochrome. However, back to artist licence I guess.

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/civil/amy.htm


Best Regards

Andy

Andy

Having seen the photo we can use some interpretation. Light coloured letters on the fuselage, so the fuselage aint silver. Taking an informed guess the letters are silver on a pale blue (turquoise) fuselage. The wings will be silver and the wing lettering will be blue. (could be outlined)

John

[weeman]

Andy

Having seen the photo we can use some interpretation. Light coloured letters on the fuselage, so the fuselage aint silver. Taking an informed guess the letters are silver on a pale blue (turquoise) fuselage. The wings will be silver and the wing lettering will be blue. (could be outlined)

John

Hi John,
You are a star. I know the pic isn't G-ADZO, but it looks damn near enough for me. I am going to adopt the scheme you have suggested , but I think I'll go for un-outlined wing registration. This has GOT to be my final decision otherwise I will still be pondering about it next year. I greatly appreciate all the help you have given me, and hope to keep in contact. If you come across any more info on G-ADZO, please let me know.
Best Regards
Andy