bexwh773 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Thanks Bexy. It is the Austrian Orchestra kit and I have found the fit to be OK. Have recently become a bit of a seam line Nazi, and seem to spend increasing hours sanding and filling any kit I make nowadays! I thought it especially important on a kit like this where to me the finish is all important. To have any visible seam lines would spoil it. But generally it goes together without too much hassle. Thanks Tom, thats put mind at rest a bit, makes a change for a Revell airliner to go together nicely Bexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bugger!! Just when I thought it was going well, I started spraying the Alclad and then it began lifting right in front of my eyes!! Will try and lift off the loose paint once dry with tape, then give it a quick coat of primer and try again. Damn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Bugger....... always something will go wrong and guarenteed never to be simple to hear that Tom. Fingers crossed ya beat her into submission Bexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 Its been a little while since my last update... progress has been mixed to say the least! After rescuing the peeling paint on the leading edges, I moved on to masking off the wings in preparation for the fuselage painting. This was going well, until I dropped the model on the kitchen worktop. This had 2 effects! Firstly, the nose weight that I attached came loose inside the fuselage. No chance of fixing that. Secondly, the main wheel well popped back inside the fuselage, and had to be rescued along with the landing gear strut, and then re-fixed from inside. Annoying, but not project ending. I continued with painting, and applied the pearlescent top coat, which looks great. Not my best airbrush work, sprayed a bit too thick in some areas, but it looks ok overall. I removed the masking, and the lines are clean so I am happy with that. Then began the decalling. The 2six decals went on superbly to begin with however, when I got to the tail decals, they just crumbled and fell apart. Damn... no completed airliner for me! So I emailed Ray at 2six and he replied instantly, and sent me a spare replacement set the next day. Superb customer service! So now I have the prospect of completing this project. The observant amongst you will notice that I glued the horizontal stabilisers on. That was a mistake! So I had to break them off in order to apply the wrap around decals in this area. Not too much of a problem, only now, the fit is poor so i will have to do alot of sanding to get a neat join between the stabs and the fuse. The wrap around decals are some of the hardest I have ever applied, and there is a lot of work to do to get them right. Finally, the engines are being built and they are a pain in the a**e!! I have been close to smashing this kit into smithereens on several occasions, but I shall persist and post some new pics soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprar Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Hi Tom, your in the same boat as me, after I finished painting my 340 it started lifting all over so had to wet and dry it all down and start again.... And the same thing happened AGAIN what should I do???? And then I see a post from Bexx about tesco all purpose cleaner. So down to tesco it was and ten bottles and a big plastic tub later I was home. I filled the tub up and sunk the airbus into and left it there all night. I pulled it out and just rubbed all the paint off I let it dry and gave her a coat of halfords primer and White top coat and she is fine, just waiting for my air jamacia decals to turn up then I can finish her AT LAST.... Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 The observant amongst you will notice that I glued the horizontal stabilisers on. That was a mistake! So I had to break them off in order to apply the wrap around decals in this area. Not too much of a problem, only now, the fit is poor so i will have to do alot of sanding to get a neat join between the stabs and the fuse. The wrap around decals are some of the hardest I have ever applied, and there is a lot of work to do to get them right.Finally, the engines are being built and they are a pain in the a**e!! I have been close to smashing this kit into smithereens on several occasions, but I shall persist and post some new pics soon. There are some people - not all only some - who dont build airliners and who have never built airliners and have a tendency to dismiss airliner models as not being "real" modelling (whatever that means) and say that airliner models are just travel agents models... However you decide to build one, an airliner model is still a model and has all the tricky parts you will find in those "real" models....as you obviously found out !!! The stabs is really just a question of knowing your subject and colour scheme - what seems obvious now, wasnt when you put them on. Otherwise you would have waited.... One of those tricky parts that is often not thought about is how you get a good join betwen stabs and fuselage AFTER you have painted and decalled it - its usual for wings and things to be put on first, check the joins. fill and sand as needed. Then decal....but you cant with a wraparound decal..... so airliners arent quite as easy as some people think You mentioned fiddling around with cockpits earlier......mmmmmm....I do it all the time. And add interiors....but hey thats just me, I like doing that kind of thing when you build your next airliner, try adding all the extra bits n pieces....it's fun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hi Tom, your in the same boat as me, after I finished painting my 340 it started lifting all over so had to wet and dry it all down and start again.... And the same thing happened AGAIN what should I do???? And then I see a post from Bexx about tesco all purpose cleaner. So down to tesco it was and ten bottles and a big plastic tub later I was home. I filled the tub up and sunk the airbus into and left it there all night. I pulled it out and just rubbed all the paint off I let it dry and gave her a coat of halfords primer and White top coat and she is fine, just waiting for my air jamacia decals to turn up then I can finish her AT LAST.... Thanks Chris Chris, I have a feeling the paint lifting sometimes is a result of using a cellulose or acrylic based paint over an enamel or white spirit based paint, or vice versa. I've not quite worked it out, but when using paints of the same type, it shouldn't happen! There are some people - not all only some - who dont build airliners and who have never built airliners and have a tendency to dismiss airliner models as not being "real" modelling (whatever that means) and say that airliner models are just travel agents models... However you decide to build one, an airliner model is still a model and has all the tricky parts you will find in those "real" models....as you obviously found out !!! The stabs is really just a question of knowing your subject and colour scheme - what seems obvious now, wasnt when you put them on. Otherwise you would have waited.... One of those tricky parts that is often not thought about is how you get a good join betwen stabs and fuselage AFTER you have painted and decalled it - its usual for wings and things to be put on first, check the joins. fill and sand as needed. Then decal....but you cant with a wraparound decal..... so airliners arent quite as easy as some people think You mentioned fiddling around with cockpits earlier......mmmmmm....I do it all the time. And add interiors....but hey thats just me, I like doing that kind of thing when you build your next airliner, try adding all the extra bits n pieces....it's fun :) Kev, they're definitely a different kettle of fish to what I am used to. I think next time I'll have a much better idea of what to do. For the time being, I am giving this one a rest for a couple of weeks while I work on my other project!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Kev, they're definitely a different kettle of fish to what I am used to. I think next time I'll have a much better idea of what to do. Think of it as you would any other model....dont treat it any differently I'm guessing you probably do some research into your subjects, unless you like just building something as it comes from the box ...nothing wrong with that, I have loads of OOB models but if you do look things up, then you'll know that many kits need some fixing here n there, a bit adding here n there, a lil' tweak here n there, and maybe a hatch or door opening and something putting inside Most modellers I know do *something* like that, maybe not the whole sp and the superdetailing thing, tho' some do, but a little extra helps make the finished model a bit more real. Why is an airliner any different? Have a good break from it - always helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antony Robertson Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Can i ask which Two Six decals you used for this? The only ones i can find for the A340 in Virgin colours are from Draw Decals and they're for the 600 not the 300. Did you use the 747 ones? Cheers Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Hi Tom! Looking great so far!! Regarding the coroguard, I've seen so many variations in colour and metallic sheen that the TLAR principle is good to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Hello All, Well, talk about grave digging a topic. I have finally finished the A340-300! Its taken a while and I haven't posted any WIP pics, but here is the finished thing. Basically, I made a complete horlicks of this one, so I'm calling it done. Too many errors to mention really, resulting in the thing being almost thrown in the bin many times, however I'm actually reasonably happy with the end result. I'll post more pics in RFI when the light is better. Hope you enjoy. PS I must have enjoyed it somewhat as I've just started a Concorde/A319 BA dual build. Must be a glutton for punishment. PPS, Antony, sorry I missed your question, I dont think Ray at two six produces the A340-300 Virgin decals any more, though may be worth asking if he'd do you a set. Edited November 4, 2011 by tom271282 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madaboutmodels Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 looks good, i intend on doing one in the new sheme and they now have them at two six ..................modelling madness............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuprar Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Very nice indeed Tom, did you use the mica top coat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antony Robertson Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 That's turned out really well, good job! Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 Thanks chaps. I did use the Mica top coat, works really well for that 'pearlescent' finish, hopefully you can see it in the top photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micha Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 looks fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Lovely job... And welcome to the world of airliners! Edited November 4, 2011 by tomprobert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I made a complete horlicks of this one, no you didnt - it's a nicely finished model....a bit of constructive criticism tho; the cabin wndows look a little bit high, which then means the Virgin titles are as well, the reason for it is that airbus widebody airliners have a very distinctive feature - the rear part of the cabin slopes upwards and this shows in the cabin windows... check this pic out - http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/up...-5/17/46295.jpg thats what seems to be missing from your model. But I still dont think you made as horlicks of it - actually I think you did pretty good HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tackleberry Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 no you didnt - it's a nicely finished model....a bit of constructive criticism tho;the cabin wndows look a little bit high, which then means the Virgin titles are as well, the reason for it is that airbus widebody airliners have a very distinctive feature - the rear part of the cabin slopes upwards and this shows in the cabin windows... check this pic out - http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/up...-5/17/46295.jpg thats what seems to be missing from your model. But I still dont think you made as horlicks of it - actually I think you did pretty good HTH I never noticed that myself!!!! Looking at the pic in your link, though is it me but is the Airbus name sloping upto the cockpit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev1n Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 possibly - most modellers, me included, tend to place the decals so they are neat and symmetrical....not always so on the real ones tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom271282 Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 I never noticed that myself!!!!Looking at the pic in your link, though is it me but is the Airbus name sloping upto the cockpit ? Doesn't look straight does it? I think the reason being that the A340 sits on the ground in a way that makes the fuselage point down at a certain small angle, so when the A/C is in the paint bay and the man is spraying on the airbus logo, he does it straight and level with his paint stand, therefore when its done, its on an apparent angle. Thats my guess, but stand to be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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