Stephen Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 I picked this up today RRP £18.99 decals for 149 and 301 Sqn.Also seen were 1/48 MiG-3 and 1/72 F-105. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Oooh, tasty! Was the F105 the single or two seater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 6, 2007 Author Share Posted September 6, 2007 Oooh, tasty! Was the F105 the single or two seater? Single There are pics on ARC http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index....=130095&hl= stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Thomson Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 OK, so what has the Trumpeter Wellington got that the MPM one doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 OK, so what has the Trumpeter Wellington got that the MPM one doesn't? Engines that don't need the cylinders glued to the crankcase, geodesic detail inside the fuselage windows, bomb bay, wheel wells that don't need to be sanded down to fit inside the wing halves, turrets where the clear parts fit over the interior........ John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Thomson Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Engines that don't need the cylinders glued to the crankcase, geodesic detail inside the fuselage windows, bomb bay, wheel wells that don't need to be sanded down to fit inside the wing halves, turrets where the clear parts fit over the interior........ Ok fair enough. But it hasn't been built so we don't yet know about the fit of the wheel wells and turrets. The fabric structure looks just as heavy as the MPM (or maybe slightly more - difficult to tell). I still think Matchbox got it just right. I will certainly have to have a look in the box. Shame they didn't start with a B-MkX, or one of the other Hercules engined versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousA667 Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 The fabric structure looks just as heavy as the MPM (or maybe slightly more - difficult to tell). I still think Matchbox got it just right. Matchbox did get it right, this one looks way OTT and certainly more extreme than the MPM. peebeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 6, 2007 Share Posted September 6, 2007 Fair comment about the fit of the interior parts, but I think it would be reasonable to expect Trumpeter to be better in this regard than the MPM kit, which is s bit of a fight to put together. As for the surface detail, the MPM kit is actually pretty heavy when you see it in the plastic, and comparing the photos above to Brett Green's in this article: http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/wellingtonreviewbg_1.htm it doesn't look like there's much to choose. Matchbox have never really been bettered in that respect, but be aware that later Revell issues of the Matchbox kit have what looks like some mould damage on one of the upper wing halves Having wrestled a MPM Wellington into a semblance of submission I'll be very interested in getting my hands on one of these. The navigator of T2508: W/O Graham Wilson, was a local man and Falkirk Museum Service hold his DFC. A nice rendition of the aircraft to go on display with the medal is one of my (many!) projects. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The geodesic detail is about the only good thing I have to say about the MPM Wellington (I built it for a SAMI review earlier in the year). Oh, and the tranparencies were thin and clear (but didn't fit) and the decals had excellent colour density. The fit is horrendous. Utterly atrocious. I would only recommend it to those people who like to build difficult kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The geodesic detail is about the only good thing I have to say about the MPM Wellington (I built it for a SAMI review earlier in the year). Oh, and the tranparencies were thin and clear (but didn't fit) and the decals had excellent colour density. The fit is horrendous. Utterly atrocious. I would only recommend it to those people who like to build difficult kits. Those long fuselage side windows!!!!! It was certainly not an easy build. I had been looking forward to both the Wellington and the MkI Hudson, but after building the Welly and reading John McIlmurray's review of the Hudson, I've decided I'll wait for reviews of any further MPM kits that I fancy. I really do like the look of the P39 though! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Those long fuselage side windows!!!!! Well, I built the Mk.III which had inserts to fill the slots for the windows.....which didn't fit, and after much PSR and then final painting, went and cracked round the edges....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hannants are listing the Trumpeter kit at £18.99 http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=TU01626 The MPM Ic as a "Special" at £19.60 http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MPM72099 and the other MPM kits at £20.99 http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MPM72542 and £21.99 http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MPM72099 The Italeri boxing comes in at £15.99 http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=IT1252 so all in all the Trumpeter release looks like good value - unless of course you want one of these: http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=MQ7227 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Gnome Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Ok fair enough. But it hasn't been built so we don't yet know about the fit of the wheel wells and turrets. The fabric structure looks just as heavy as the MPM (or maybe slightly more - difficult to tell). I still think Matchbox got it just right. I will certainly have to have a look in the box. Shame they didn't start with a B-MkX, or one of the other Hercules engined versions. No matter how good a photograph of a sprue is, its always difficult to tell until you see it in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 No matter how good a photograph of a sprue is, its always difficult to tell until you see it in the flesh. 'e's right ya know... the lighting of a kit, especially one like this with LOTS of surface texture can make it seem flat, or like the Marianas trench... M. Gnome is SO right, it makes my eyes water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hunter Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The surface detail on the wings and tailplane look as heavy as the Trumpeter 1/48 MK I have, but they say after a light sand and cover with Halfords grey primer it looks OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potato Pete Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 (edited) The surface detail on the wings and tailplane look as heavy as the Trumpeter 1/48 MK I Indeed it is. Just compared my unbulit MPM kit with my unbuilt Trumpy 1/72 (ok I was weak), and the MPM surfaces are positively restrained in comparison. The general quality of the Trump molding is very nice and sharp and better than MPM, and as people have said, you get some interior detail - very much as their 1/48. The Trump kit has plenty of sink marks on interior surfaces, but I doubt whether they'll be visible once the fuselage is closed up.Shape and size wise, they look pretty similar after a cusory inspection. I guess there's still room for a good Wellington kit out there Pete Edited September 16, 2007 by Potato Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 I've been working on this and I have to say for something that's not my usual subjetc or scale this is a fantastic kit.The fit is near Tamiya especially wing to fuselage. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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