Tiger331 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Iain, keep up the good work, which is proving to be further inspiration for me...........I am eagerly anticipating the arrival of the Fisher models 2-seat conversion I recently purchase, so I can start work on WV318 in the overall-black scheme it wore in the early 1990s. This was the aircraft I took my first fast-jet trip in from Lossiemouth, chasing Buccaneers....Those were the days. I must admit to getting slightly confused over which kit I should use for the conversion ?. I'm guessing the FGA.9 issue because of the brake-para housing but have been in this game long enough to realise it probably isn't as simple as that !. My second Hunter project will be a RSAF FGA.74. I spent 6 years in Singapore during the late 60s and early 70s and well remember these aircraft zotting around the island from Paya Lebar and, later, Tengah and Changi when the RAF handed these bases over. Tiger331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Hi Tiger, The F Mk. 6 is the best start point - no need to correct the ailerons, has the correct flaps for vast majority of two-seaters and the Fisher conversion provides the new tailcone with para housing (this is smaller diameter than FGA Mk. 9 as the T7 has the 100 series Avon, rather than 200 series (based on the F. Mk 4 airframe). Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger331 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Hi Tiger,The F Mk. 6 is the best start point - no need to correct the ailerons, has the correct flaps for vast majority of two-seaters and the Fisher conversion provides the new tailcone with para housing (this is smaller diameter than FGA Mk. 9 as the T7 has the 100 series Avon, rather than 200 series (based on the F. Mk 4 airframe). Iain Iain, Thanks for this.......I did not realise that the Fisher kit had included the para housing........ Tiger331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 Hi again! Some good pix of the fisher tail pipe on the Cybermodeler review: http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/f..._fis_3216.shtml Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted May 3, 2010 Author Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) OK - spent some time today getting the filled hinges perfectly smooth - one benefit of glacial build speeds is that everything gets a chance to dry out/settle. In this case the fill on the upper starboard aileron hinge had cracked and the superglue had started to peel back. So - clean up, re-fill and sand. Quick comparison - FGA Mk 9 and F6: Pencil lines in correct position on FGA Mk 9 wing - it's here that the error really shows: 6" steel rule to be used as scriber guide. Find it helps to use a little folded tape on reverse to keep in position under finger pressure - we don't want that scriber going astray! Scribing with my BareMetal Foil scriber: And the results after opening out the scribed lines with a number of different file profiles: Next step - restoring all the lost surface detail. More soon! Iain Edited May 3, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted May 22, 2010 Author Share Posted May 22, 2010 Little bit more engraving done - now off to sit on the patio and do some more fettling in the sunshine - would like to get some paint on this weekend!! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 22, 2010 Share Posted May 22, 2010 Find it helps to use a little folded tape on reverse to keep in position under finger pressure - we don't want that scriber going astray! Well I never! You learn something new everyday!! Thanks for that gem of a tip and the kits are looking fabulous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 Thanks Mark - funny thing with modelling - you never know what's useful and what isn't when you write this stuff up... Just detailing the aileron hunges with strip plastic. I *really* want to get some paint on soon!! And Fisher T Mk 7 Conversion on the way - god help me! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted June 6, 2010 Author Share Posted June 6, 2010 And here's one of the hinge lines - should be ready for another shot of primer now: You can see how far out the FGA Mk 9 kit ailerons are! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 OK - these suckers are going to get some paint this w/e - come hell, or high water... Now - decided on silver undersides first - sooo... How does Tamiya silver stand up to Tamiya tape? Or, am I better using Alclad? Thoughts/abuse/suggestions appreciated... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlpainter Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 hi i would go with the alclad never had a problem masking over it plus it looks better simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thanks Simon - am starting to lean that way - and jetpipe surrounds already Alcladed. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 OK - these suckers are going to get some paint this w/e - come hell, or high water...Now - decided on silver undersides first - sooo... How does Tamiya silver stand up to Tamiya tape? Or, am I better using Alclad? Thoughts/abuse/suggestions appreciated... Iain Hi Iain Works well but I added some Johnson's Klear to the paint and this helps it flow and harden within a couple of hours. I used this mix on the bottom of my Lightning T5 and recently on my Hurricane MK 1. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) Thanks Tigger - and were you able to mask over the top OK? Have been Alcladding the wheels and legs - and not sure if I have enough Aluminium left to do two airframes now (I seem to have loads of bottles of polished aluminium and chrome though!) So may have a little play with Tamiya silver later today... Iain Edited July 3, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 HI Iain Yes masking was fine with no lifting of the paint at un masking (Tamiya or Kip tape). It was all applied over a coat of cheap brand car primer. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Ta muchly! Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Still looking forward to seeing these done (mind you I'm one to talk!!!). Worth noting that the "High Speed Silver" undersides of Hunters faded to a matt silvery-grey after a short period of time. In fact its often difficult to differentiate between Silver painted and Light Aircraft Grey painted undersides. Personally I wouldn't use Alclad for this - certainly not seeing you've Alclad-ed the jet pipes. My favourite is Mithril Silver from Citadel, looks nice matted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Hmmm... Just tried Tamiya chrome - and it's a little, well, grainy... I may have a go with the Mithril silver - but I'm leaning towards Alclad Matt Aluminium... Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Actually - you were right Bill - Mithril Silver goes on nicely... Waiting for some test pieces to try so I can test with Tamiya tape. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 Repeat after me... This is meant to be fun... This is meant to be fun... Does anyone else get as stressed as me when it comes to getting a decent overall paint finish? Still - the silver seems to be working - even if I keep having to take backward steps to rectify minor blemishes. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 8, 2010 Author Share Posted July 8, 2010 (edited) OK - Quite liking the Mithril Silver - must go get some more. Wheels and legs being done in Alclad - and weathered with oil paint - here are the wheels: But this acrylic silver seems to be working as a representative 'high speed silver' Airframes given another wash/polis tonight - ready for re-masking tomorrow... So, Thanks Bill - good advice it would seem! Iain Edited July 8, 2010 by 32SIG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 So, Thanks Bill - good advice it would seem! :)Iain My pleasure Iain! I've been looking at these paints a lot lately - they have some excellent colours in their range - and as I have a large stash still (of certain colours anyway) from the shop , I've been looking at seeing what I can use...their "Bleached Bones" is an excellent shade of RAF/RN Sky, Blood Red=Signal Red etc., I really do need to get one of my Hunters out and build it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Haven't tested with the Tamiya tape yet - and I have spotted some dust in the paint I need to sort Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Ogilvie Posted July 10, 2010 Author Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hmmm... Come to conclusion that the finish is a little fragile - scratches easily and the Tamiya tape has pulled small amounts adjacent to panel lines... Others mileage may vay. Cleaning the paint off the tailplane and tanks now - will have a go with Alclad Aluminium over Alclad Gloss Black. Will report back. Iain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 My pleasure Iain! I've been looking at these paints a lot lately - they have some excellent colours in their range - and as I have a large stash still (of certain colours anyway) from the shop , I've been looking at seeing what I can use...their "Bleached Bones" is an excellent shade of RAF/RN Sky, Blood Red=Signal Red etc.,I really do need to get one of my Hunters out and build it!!! How well do you think a Bleached Bones/Codex Grey combination would work for FAA aircraft? Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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