AnonymousFO98 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Looks like some weird Gundam type tech mask! well done getting the brass work so good Good Luck with the mis(in)takes but after nailing* the brass work so well your confidence must be high and you will be fine! * not literally - i hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 It wont last I just know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPFlightpath Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 It wont last I just know it! You are about to have some good luck - email [not PM] me. You can do this from our web site. David Parkins, Flightpath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skii Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Fabulous work so far - the front end and cockpit look hugely improved Next is the nightmare of the completely mis shapen intakes. Major surgery here we come! Does the flightpath set correct this as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 (edited) Hi m8, the set goes some way to correcting the set which is difficult to explain without physically pointing it out. suffice to say, the actual openings for the kit parts are too large and swept back. also Revell have omitted a small step directly underneath the intake which i think hosed the ice wiper mechanism. This is reintroduced by the flightpath kit which I'm sure will improve the shape no end. Thanks for all your positive replies folks. Edited September 3, 2009 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadCop Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 That's some impressive soldering work! That's one skill I'm going to have to pick up soon with all the PE sets that I have building up in the stash. Any tips on the type of soldering iron and solder/resin that you used as I'm looking to pick up a soldering iron and associated supplies for this purpose soon, and bet that the $20 cheapie at the hardware store just won't be the best choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Great work on the soldering! You nailed it! Grrrr. I'm going to have to get one of these kits now, you've built me into it! Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 That's some impressive soldering work! That's one skill I'm going to have to pick up soon with all the PE sets that I have building up in the stash. Any tips on the type of soldering iron and solder/resin that you used as I'm looking to pick up a soldering iron and associated supplies for this purpose soon, and bet that the $20 cheapie at the hardware store just won't be the best choice. Ironically. The iron I have is actually a 25W £9.99 cheapie. I have just found some replacement tips for it. I am using a liquid flux which is running the solder into the joints extrememly well. The problem is I only have a tiny bit of it left and the original supplier has long gone out of business. Im trying to track down another source. AL I have to say this is one of the more unusual kits out there. I bought it to build because I saw a built up one in a model shop in Solihull (Bobs Models) and was impressed by its presence. That and the 117 was being retired and I wanted summat different. I actually scored this at Telford last year. As I have said theres not much in the way of plastic and it is hugely inaccurate. There is such a lot more that can be done to this to make it spot on but where do you draw the line? Get one and come polish the T@%d! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSTON Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Heloo Phartycr0c.. cor! THIS IS ONEHELLUVA beauty ... CARRY on Friend l.....looking good.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Short update. Iv'e stuck the wingy things together. When 117's sit without power, the flaps and elevons droop so I will be cutting these out and adapting them suitably. The flaps are nice big chunky things so it should be easy. Iv'e formed and soldered the intakes which make one hell of a difference Kit Intakes Rubbish Flightpath Intakes, mmmm nice Kit intakes Rubbish! Flightpath intakes mmmm even nicer! In reality the kit is moulded wrongly around the intakes notwithstanding the lack of Wiper mechanism. They appear too raked backwards although believe you me trying to look at photos of the 117 in an attempt to picture exactly what needs to be corrected is no easy task. The thing looks completely different from every angle! Either way the Flightpath intakes are delicious. One thing I realised when i fitted one of the intakes is that the kit itself is so flexible, one movement could throw them out. Therefore I decided to concentrate on getting the kit halves joined to offer an element of stability. Back to the cockpit panel before Panel after The thing with the 117 is that the cockpit interior is painted black to reduce glare making it a little drab. likewise the seat also was unusually painted black. so here goes nothing! and iv'e soldered the nose ready for cleanup TTFN Edited September 5, 2009 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Have you tried the glass fibre pen trick to remove the overflow solder? It will help when it comes to preparing/priming the surface. Cheers, Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 6, 2009 Author Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hi al I hadnt thought of that yet I use these things at work for cleaning electrical contacts. What is it they say about office stationary? ..........Seriously Maplins here I come. Ta muchly Another little update on this monster. Ive completed the cockpit basically. The seat is a paragon Aces 2 which i had lying around, unfortunately not all the etched brass details were with it. The decals on the seat are some from a missile i think, and the belts are from the flightpath kit. The seat and panels were sprayed with acrylic matt black then drybrushed with Citadel Boltgun metal. Likewise the seat padding was painted with commando khaki and the belts graveyard earth. each was then washed with the corresponding colour ink. Whille i waited for this all to dry, Not very long at all actually, I filled the god awful joints on the tailplane which resulted from the stoopid way Revell want you to construct them. They have an insert affair which sits on the outer face of the tail which should be completely smooth. One other thing i did was to cut the tail along the seam at the bottom as they will ultimately sit on the skew as they did on the big uns at rest. . The Cockpit was then put into place leaving a large gap around the back of the bulkhead where it joins the fuselage. prolly just my kit. My attention turned to the Flir which IMHO looks ridiculous having constructed the housing (flightpath) and installed part 66 (Revell) I was left with this Far Far to small. look at size of the F117 Flir Its huge. As a result of a lot of thinking I burgled one of my stepdaughters little used games and perloined a ball which I cut in half now im left with this.........much better! Nobody grass me up RIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) Short update folks, Iv'e been very slowly playing with the weapons pylons in a bid to get the bomb bay installed and the body strengthened. To that end some of the etched brass has gone from this to this Iv'e also been putting my mind to how to obtain the "characteristic "skew" in the rudder when the aircraft is at rest. I have purchased some fine brass tube and rod for the bomb bay door actuators, but Iv'e found that the diameter is just right to fit inside the assembled rudder parts. I formed a pin in the lower section with the hollow brass tube supporting the upper. The pin / tube is secured with CA glue internally and packed out with filler to provide an unmoveable bond preventing the pin or tube from wandering off centre. This gives me exactly the effect I was after and I think will look good on the beast at the end. and now a real one you get the idea. One other fault on the kit is that from the rear, as can be seen in the photograph, the engine exhaust are not visible and shielded Ii.e you cant see directly up em!!!!!! another bit if correction coming up. Nite all till me next un! Edited September 11, 2009 by Phartycr0c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousFO98 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Well done Pharty looking really good mate keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJPFlightpath Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Iv'e also been putting my mind to how to obtain the "characteristic "skew" in the rudder when the aircraft is at rest. I have purchased some fine brass tube and rod for the bomb bay door actuators, but Iv'e found that the diameter is just right to fit inside the assembled rudder parts. I formed a pin in the lower section with the hollow brass tube supporting the upper. Nice to see you adopting some railway modelling ideas here in terms of the use of brass rod & tube! K & S Models is your friend. Seriously though, I don't know why more aircraft modellers don't use brass wire, rod & section instread of plastic rod and strip for detailing, as it is so much crisper and stronger. Nice Work on those fins! Regards, David Parkins, Flightpath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Cant see all the photo's cuz on dial up it'd take hours for the page to load but looking good so far. You see the yellow black stripeing on the coaming,I have some of that in decal if you need. Merv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 12, 2009 Author Share Posted September 12, 2009 Oh yes please! Pm Inbound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Oh yes please! Pm Inbound! Seen,sending Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Iv'e also been putting my mind to how to obtain the "characteristic "skew" in the rudder when the aircraft is at rest. I have purchased some fine brass tube and rod for the bomb bay door actuators, but Iv'e found that the diameter is just right to fit inside the assembled rudder parts. I formed a pin in the lower section with the hollow brass tube supporting the upper. This gives me exactly the effect I was after and I think will look good on the beast at the end. That's very well done my son, good idea well-executed. Cheers, Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) This is looking like it's gonna be a masterpiece. Cheers Daz Edited September 14, 2009 by daz greenwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 15, 2009 Author Share Posted September 15, 2009 Thanks for the positive encouragement folks. Iv'e not really "surged" ahead with the Ghost but iv'e had loads more soldering practice forming the bomb bay trapeze. The way to approach the flightpath kits is to read, re read and read again the instructions and dry fit, dry fit, dry fit, in order to build a picture in the minds eye, then solder away. Also I had a play with one of the GBU's which is complete bar adjustment of the front fins. which i will do after painting. that is one seriously heavy piece of resin! and also a little more "artistic licence" on the bomb bay with some brass tube, old telephone wire and a couple of spare kit parts. The fettling isn't designed as a perfect replica of the bomb bay, just an effort to make it look a little more busy Oh by the way, Al (Phatness) iv'e enjoyed immensely the fiberglass shards in the fingers. reminds me im alive I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borz666 Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 The bomb trapeze looks fantastic. Keep it up! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Oh by the way, Al (Phatness) iv'e enjoyed immensely the fiberglass shards in the fingers. reminds me im alive I suppose. Yeah but think of the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phartycr0c Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Ok folks another update on what potentially would make a very good jelly mould. Iv'e finished the superb weapons trapeze's (if that a word,) painted and installed the bomb bay, and cut the flaps and ailerons out for re mounting. The bomb bay still need a bit (lot) more detailing to finish busying it up, but ill hold off until the undercarriage is on and the trapeze's installed. and now a quick mock up of the trapeze's and doors The nose is now on with the plastic ball FLIR. Iv'e added some 20thou plasticard in an effort to accentuate an area which stands out on the actual aircraft but hasn't really been moulded well in the kit. There's still some filling and shaping to take place to blend the flightpath stuff in with the body etc. and finally a progress overviews One other thing, I think iv'e overcooked is the weight in the nose to prevent it being a tail sitter. so much so I'm wondering whether the front undercarriage will take the strain. Sorry for the amount of phots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz greenwood Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Very nice. An amazing job, makes me wonder why I even build models. Can't wait to see more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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