Doug Rogers Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 (edited) Hi all, finished my diorama/vignette thingy, hope you like it. Enjoyed doing it, made a nice change for a quick build. Build thread here : http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33742 Edited August 15, 2009 by Doug Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Looks very nice, Doug. The sea's nicely modelled, and looks the right colour too. Just one observation, I'm not familiar with photos of the real thing running on the surface at speed, but would the propwash create more foam on the sea surface? Please don't take this as a criticism, as I don't know if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Lovely dio Doug, well done. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 That sir is a work of art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 (edited) Looks very nice, Doug. The sea's nicely modelled, and looks the right colour too.Just one observation, I'm not familiar with photos of the real thing running on the surface at speed, but would the propwash create more foam on the sea surface? Please don't take this as a criticism, as I don't know if that's the case. Hello mate, yes I'm sure you're right that it would have created shed loads of spray, but I couldn't think of a realistic way to recreate that other than sort of draping cotton wool down the sides of the floats etc, which I was worried might look a bit naff. I guess if I'm honest I was thinking that 'less is more' if you know what I mean, better to underdo it, than overdo it. I might give it a go with a bit and see how it turns out though. Edited August 6, 2009 by Doug Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeew Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Excellent work Doug. I like the sea, very realistic. Am I being stoopid asking how you got the prop spinning? (Thinks: It must be the good old fashioned "working feature") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks Mike. The prop is basically a short length (approx 1 inch) of 1/16in brass tubing fixed in the back of the prop hub, and then fix a similar length of 3/32in tubing in the front of the fuselage. The smaller fits snugly inside the larger and with a small amount of graphite powder, or just put a small amount of pencil lead on the shaft, it spins quite freely. I took the idea from Tim Prosser (Tango India Mike) and although it sounds a bit fussy, is surprisingly straightforward to do. The important thing is to get it as central as possible to reduce 'wobble', and to not get any glue on anything. Then I laid a hairdryer just out of shot, and hey presto. Credit to Stebos as well, who gave me the idea for the seascape from his excellent Martin Seamaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hi Doug, having failed to find photos of the real thing taking off or landing, I wonder if you might create some of the foam/spray effect with a little white or off-white paint on the surface of the sea. Just a thought, nothing I've actually tried myself. If you use acrylics, you should be able to remove it if it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Good idea I reckon Obi Jiff. Looking at it over the last 24hrs it does look a bit sparse in the foam department, sort of looks like he's out for a gentle cruise around the bay! Edited August 7, 2009 by Doug Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousA667 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Instead of photos look for videos! I think Doug's model is good for a slow taxi with the engine on idle. Depicting the take off run would be very challenging. Great work BTW Doug. peebeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Instead of photos look for videos! Oh, I never thought of that. What a silly bunt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks Paul, some great footage there of an S5 as well, and was that a Macchi right at the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter B Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hi Doug, Fantastic work. Love the water effect. Hope I haven't missed something here, but has anyone asked how you made the water? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks Peter. In a nutshell it's a 30cm square polystyrene ceiling tile, which had a sort of dimpled texture on it, which actually helped a bit. Cut out any depressions or grooves that the scene requires with a sharp knife. Then PVA over the tile, cover the tile in plain tissue paper, PVA over that with a dilute mix, press it down with a brush in a sort of fibre-glass matting sort of stylee. Once it's dry paint over as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Hi all, finished my diorama/vignette thingy, hope you like it. No way! That's not a model! Come on, admit it. You took a photo and photoshopped it onto a picture of a frame, dintcha?!? Superb job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter B Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks for the info re the water Doug. Excellent, well done. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Very nice, and the three angles make it look like three different models Great seascape too, must try that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Lovely job Doug I like the amount of water around the plane, somehow adds to the movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lampie Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Lovely job Doug. You dont see many of these built and the base really sets it off nicely. Nige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 Lovely job Doug I like the amount of water around the plane, somehow adds to the movement. Aha!... Yes I'm glad you mentioned that...SWMBO, my most severe critic, said there was too much Sea and not enough aircraft! I explained that I was trying to emphasise that it was only an ickle aircraft, and the base had to be a certain size to get the impression of movement by using the wakes of the floats. She isn't having it though, thought I should have cut the tile down smaller. I do think she's looking at it from a 'Where the hell are we going to put it?' perspective though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat C Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 Doug - have been admiring your superb diorama with my Dad. His uncle flew the S6A (N248) during the 1931 Trophy. We have been looking at some pics of the S6B cockpit and admiring its crudeness! No altimeter - I suppose you just looked down to see how high you were!!! There also appears to be a domestic light switch fitted for something or other. Looks like on take-off run there would not be much of the rear of the floats showing. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 (edited) Thanks Pat. Yes I have a couple of pics of the insides of an S6B, and as you say, just a very basic control stick and a few gauges. I think a couple of boost gauges down by the floor, and a few on the instrument panel, probably revs, oil pressure. Probably no speedo as you don't need to know how fast you're going, just that you're going as fast as you can! Thanks for looking. Edited August 9, 2009 by Doug Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebos Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Carried this one off a treat... I think you judged the tile area right, helps with the atmosphere of a gloomy looking ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 How cool is that???? Great idea and a lovely build! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Rogers Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Carried this one off a treat... I think you judged the tile area right, helps with the atmosphere of a gloomy looking ocean. Thanks Mate, I was inspired to do the seascape by your excellent Martin Seamaster, so thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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