MAP scale plans

[Plastic Hacker]

Came across an old (1984!!) Scale Drawings catalogue recently and was wondering what happened to them.

The drawings were often featured in Scale Models (also owned by Model & Allied Publications back then) and also available seperately as "plan packs" in various scales.

I'd be interested to know if the drawings are still available to buy.

Alan.

[Edgar]

They went to Nexus, who, last year, sold out to Encanta Media. Not sure if they have a website, yet, but there is a contact phone no., 01689 899228. If you have the plan no., they'll tell you if it's still available. If it's an Arthur Bentley drawing, he's taken them back, and you'll need to try www.albentley-drawings.com/main.htm., since he's having to redraw them. Nexus' photocopiers stretched drawings, so he had to condense them, in length, to compensate. It's possible other drawings are the same, so it'll pay you to check any that you buy.

Edgar

[jeffclark7]

Edgar

You are certainly showing your age with that answer. Many thanks for the info about the plans, I still have some from the early 60's. I also thought that the company had gone down the pan years ago.

Many Thanks

Jeff

Edited August 2, 2007 by jeffclark7

[T-Tango]

Seems as though Encanta Media has now been bought out by Magicalia, they seem to be changing hands so fast at the moment you just can't keep up.

[Plastic Hacker]

Thanks for the info. guys.

Alan.

[Len Thomson]

It may be worth looking for the "Aircraft Archive" series of books. They feature most of the plans which at one time were with MAP.

There are two volumes of Post War Jest, two of fighters of WW2, one of WW" bombers and one of "classics" featuring such gems as the Fairey Seafox, Lysander etc.

You could try e-bay or the Aviation Bookshop who may have some second hand.

[Charles Metz]

It may be worth looking for the "Aircraft Archive" series of books. They feature most of the plans which at one time were with MAP.

There are two volumes of Post War Jest, two of fighters of WW2, one of WW" bombers and one of "classics" featuring such gems as the Fairey Seafox, Lysander etc.

Here's a list of the multi-view drawings included in all (as far as I know) of the Aircraft Archive volumes except those on jets:

'Aircraft of World War One, Vol. 1' (Aircraft Archive series [unnumbered]; Argus Books [uK], 1989; 96 pages) -- Albatros C.III (p. 61-63), Albatros D.II (p. 64-66), Albatros D.V (p. 67-69), Armstrong Whitworth FK8 (p. 6-9), BE2e (p. 20, 23), Breguet XIV (p. 42-45), Bristol Scout D (p. 10, 11), DH4 (p. 12-17), DH5 (p. 18, 19), Dolphin (p. 28, 29), Etric Taube (p. 90, 91), Fokker D.VIII (p. 70-72), Fokker E.III & Fokker E.IV (p. 73-76), Halberstadt CL.II (p. 77-79), Hannover CL.IIIa (p. 80, 81), Hansa-Brandenburg D.I (p. 92-95), MS.35EP (p. 46-48), Nieuport 17C (p. 49-52), Nieuport 28 (p. 53, 54), Pfalz D.III (p. 82, 83), Pfalz D.XII (p. 84-87), Pup (p. 30-33), Roland D.VIb (p. 88, 89), RR8 (p. 24-27), Snipe (p. 34, 35), Sopwith 1-1/2 Strutter (p. 39-41), Sopwith Triplane (p. 36-38), SPAD XIII (p. 55-57), Thomas-Morse S-4C (p. 58-60)

'Fighters of World War Two, Vol. 1' (Aircraft Archive series [unnumbered]; Motorbooks International [uSA], 1988; 96 pages) -- A6M5 (p. 14-16); Beaufighter (p. 64-70); Bf 109E-4 (p. 10-13); Bf 110C-4 & Bf 110G-4 (p. 27-32); Defiant I & Defiant II (p. 17-22); Do 335V, Do 335A, & Do 335B (all p. 83-95); F6F-3 & F6F-5 (p. 58-63); Gladiator I (p. 4-6); La-5FN & La-7 (p. 71-74); Mosquito NF.II, Mosquito B.IV, & Mosquito FB.VI (all p. 53-57); P-40E & P-40N (p. 23-26); P-47B & P-47D (p. 42-48); Spitfire I (p. 7-9); Spitfire IX & Spitfire XVI (p. 49-52); Spitfire XII, Spitfire XIV, & Spitfire XVII (all p. 75-82), Typhoon (p. 33-41); COMMENT: Published originally in the UK by Argus Books

'Fighters of World War Two, Vol. 2' (Aircraft Archive series [unnumbered]; Motorbooks International [uSA], 1988; 96 pages) -- A-20 [boston, Havoc] (p. 30-40); Bf 109F-1, Bf 109F-2 & Bf 109F-4 (all p. 19-23); F4U-1A (p. 56, 57); Fiat CR.42 (p. 14-16); Fokker D.XXIII (p. 17, 18); Fulmar I (p. 24-27); He 162A (p. 84-89); Hurricane I (p. 4-13); MC.202 (p. 28, 29); Me 163B (p. 58-61); Me 262A (p. 76-79); Me 410A (p. 52-54); P-51B & P-51D (p. 46-51); P-61A & P-61B (p. 73-75); Sea Fury (p. 90-95); Spitfire 21 & Spitfire 22 (p. 80-83); Tempest (p. 62-72); Yak-9 (p. 41-45); COMMENT: Published originally in the UK by Argus Books

'Bombers of World War Two' (Aircraft Archive series [unnumbered]; Argus Books [uK], 1988; 96 pages) -- Ar 234B (p. 90-95); B-17E, B-17F, & B-17G (all p. 28-33); B-24J & PB4Y-2 (p. 40-51); B-26A & B-26B (p. 62-67); Battle I (p. 10-15); Do 17M, Do 17P, & Do 17Z (all p. 20-25); Halifax Mks. I - IX (p. 52-61); He 111H-2 (p. 34-39); Il-2 (p. 80-83); Ju 86A, Ju 86B, & Ju 86D (all p. 16-19); Ju 87D & Ju 87G (p. 68-71); Ju 188E-1 (p. 84-89); Lancaster I & Lancaster III (p. 72-79); Swordfish I & Swordfish II (p. 6-9); Wellington I (p. 26, 27)

'Classics of World War Two' (Aircraft Archive series [unnumbered]; Argus Books [uK], 1989; 96 pages) -- Bu 133 (p. 30-33), Fi 156C (p. 37-40), Fw 56 (p. 22-25), Fw 190A-5 & Fw 190A-9 (p. 72-93), Gregor FDB-1 (p. 65-57), He 51B-1 (p. 19-21), I-16 (p. 26-29), J3C Cub (p. 56-59), Lysander (p. 49-55), MB5 (p. 94. 95),MC.200 (p. 60-64), Po-2 (p. 6-10), PT-13 [PT-18, NS2] Kaydet (p. 41-44), PZL P-11 (p. 16-18), SBC3 & SBC-4 (p. 34-36), SBD-3 & SBD-5 (p. 68-71), Seafox (p. 45-48), Tiger Moth (p. 11-15)

Charles Metz

[Mike]

Very helpful Charles, thanks

[Edgar]

Charles, no joke, I'm completely awestruck, regarding your library system. I sometimes look at my bookshelves, and imagining indexing that lot puts my heart into my boots. If you're at a loose end, for about six months, I could, easily, keep you employed for that length of time.

Edgar

[miduppergunner]

Charles, no joke, I'm completely awestruck, regarding your library system. I sometimes look at my bookshelves, and imagining indexing that lot puts my heart into my boots. If you're at a loose end, for about six months, I could, easily, keep you employed for that length of time.

Edgar

I agree with you absolutely Edgar - I am not sure I know what I have got.

Like you also I remember the MAP outfit quite well - often went to their offices - they were in Hemel Hempstead - to get some of these drawings - which I still have. I also have some of the Veri True drawings that were issued during and shortly after the war - and were I am told surprisingly accurate as the draughtsman had access to the working drawings of the original - bity lioke some other modellers of note at the time.

David.

[Charles Metz]

I sometimes look at my bookshelves, and imagining indexing that lot puts my heart into my boots. If you're at a loose end, for about six months, I could, easily, keep you employed for that length of time.

Thanks, Edgar; if I find myself unemployed, I'll let you know.

I began my database back in 1985, when my aviation library contained only about 400 books, and have faithfully entered the data from each new acquisition since then. Starting from scratch now would be an intimidating task indeed.

Charles Metz

[Andy K]

"...When it contained ONLY 400 books".....

bugger me there's some catching up to do LOL

[miduppergunner]

Alan - I like your avatar - Knew that firm long ago and did ask one of the Partners if they got much stick from the name - in truth it seems it was good publicity for them - also remember a firm by the name of Doolittle and Dally - but think they were Surveyors. This topic does seem to jog the memories!

David.

[Charles Metz]

"...When it contained ONLY 400 books".....

bugger me there's some catching up to do LOL

In case you were wondering, the total is now ... lemme see ... <click> ... ... um, 2336.

You've just witnessed the one downside to having a database.

Charles Metz

[Edgar]

22 years!! Strewth, I'll be 88; oh, well, we're supposed to have no spare time, when retirement arrives.

On the other subject, I did hear of a solicitor, in Devon, whose name was Robin sweetheart.

Edgar

[Plastic Hacker]

Alan - I like your avatar - Knew that firm long ago and did ask one of the Partners if they got much stick from the name - in truth it seems it was good publicity for them - also remember a firm by the name of Doolittle and Dally - but think they were Surveyors. This topic does seem to jog the memories!

David.

Hi David

Saw the solicitors whilst in Leamington Spa on business... Doolittle and Dalley have offices in Shropshire near where I live.

Charles, thanks for that incredible list. I've actually got the 3 Post War Jets titles but did not make the connection with MAP. I will try to post lists for them soon.

Alan.

[Plastic Hacker]

As promised, the contents of the 3 Aviation Archive - Post-war Jets books...

Volume 1 (Argus Books, 1988)

Avro CF-100 Canada Mk.4

BAC Lightning F. Mk.6

Boulton Paul P.111A

Dassault Mirage IIIC

De Havilland Venom FB. Mks. 1 & 4

English Electric Canberra B(I) Mk.8

Fiat G91

Grumman F-14A Tomcat

Handley Page Victor Mk.2

Hawker Siddeley Harrier GR. Mk.1 & T. Mk.2

Lockheed F-94C Starfire

Lockheed CF-104 & F-104G Starfighter

Macchi MB326

Nord 1500 Griffon II

North American F-100D Super Sabre

Northrop N-156F (F-5A prototype)

Panavia Tornado GR. Mk.1

Republic F-84F Thunderstreak

SAAB A32A Lansen

SAAB J35A, SK35C & J35F Draken

SEPECAT Jaguar A, S, E, B & M

Sukhoi Su-7B 'Fitter-A'

Volume 2 (Argus Books, 1988)

British Aerospace EAP

British Aerospace Sea Harrier FRS. Mk.1

Chance Vought F7U-3 Cutlass

Chance Vought F8U-1 & -3 Crusader

Convair F-1102A Delta Dagger

Dassault Mystere IVA, B & N

De Havilland DH.110

De Havilland Sea Venom F(AW). Mks. 20 & 21

Fairey FD2

General dynamics F-111E

Gloster Javelin F(AW). Mk.1

Grumman F9F-8 Cougar

Hawker Hunter F. Mk.5

Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer S. Mk.2

Hunting Percival Jet Provost T. Mk.2

Ledoc 021

Ling-Temco-Vought A-7E Corsair

McDonnell F4H-1, F-4K & M Phantom

Miles M77 Sparrowjet

North American F-86E Sabre

Republic F-105B Thunderchief

Sud-Est SE5003 Baroudeur

Volume 3 (Argus Books, 1988)

Armstrong-Whitworth Meteor NF. Mk.14

Avro Vulcan B. Mks.1 & 2

BAC TSR2

Boeing B-47E Stratojet

De Havilland DH.108

De Havilland Comet 1 & 4B

De Havilland Vampire T. Mk.11

Douglas D.558 Skyrocket

Douglas F4D-1 Skyray

Douglas XA4D-1 Skyhawk

Gloster Meteor F. Mk.8

McDonnell Douglas F-15A & B Eagle

Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-15 (Fagot)

Mikoyan/Gurevich MiG-21F & PF (Fishbed-C & -D)

Saunders-Roe SRA/1

Saunders-Roe SR.53

Sud-Aviation SO4050 Vautour

Supermarine Type 525

Supermarine Type 541

Vickers Valiant B. Mk.1

Vickers VC.10 Mk.1

Alan.

[Admiral Puff]

My apologies for reviving this almost antediluvian thread, but does anyone know where to find MAP plans these days? I'm after the H-P Heyford set, and Google hasn't been all that friendly.

[Francis Macnaughton]

Not sure if the Heyford is included but this seems to have a large collection

https://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/browser/5413/aeromodelling-line-drawings?p=1

[Admiral Puff]

Thanks - useful place to know about, ordered a couple of sets of drawings, but they don't have the Heyford! I'll keep trying ...

[tempestfan]

I'm pretty sure that the Heyford was drawn by Ian Stair for AvNews, too, when they were still in tabloid. Would have to find the copy, but the MAP set may have partly been included in the biplane issue (oct. '81?).

[Francis Macnaughton]

There is also this source of old Aviation News plans:

https://www.hpcpublishing.com/product/handley-page-heyford-aircraft-plan/

[Admiral Puff]

Thanks again. I already have the Av. News plans; I want the MAP set as well. They weren't in the biplane issue - I dragged that out when I got inspired to build the Matchbox kit by finding an old Dutch Decals sheet with a pair of 10 Sqn aircraft on it. It did have a useful article on building that kit, though.