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#1 Iain (32SIG)

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Posted 01 April 2009 - 08:17 PM

Feel a little guilty as this was started ages ago - not a lot done and the mods have very kindly allowed me to play! :)

Hoping this GB will be the encouragement I need to crack on...

There may also be a second build from me as the SCW is facinating and I'm drawn to these subjects like a moth to a searchlight! :pilot:


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Posted 01 April 2009 - 08:30 PM

Hi Iain

strewth that's a lot of vaccy placcy
looking forward to this

good luck with the project :thumbsup:

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:32 PM

Thanks - I'll need it!

Pictures of new progress over the weekend :)

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:27 PM

Apologies for delay - a little busy of late...

Interior floor made from styrene sheet - usinf a scanned and blown-up image of the Revell 1:48 part as a pattern.

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And a cockpit bulkhead - again - scanned and scaled-up from the Revell kit:

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Seat cushions:

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Throttle box:

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Will try and get some better pix shortly.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:36 PM

That looks pretty useful so far. Couple of questions. What was the thinking behind the resin in the bottom? What's the wingspan? Were there any white metal, or detail parts like undercarriage, props?

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:46 PM

Hi Mike,

Resin 'keel' was for strength - for such a large model the plastic used is quite thin and with the deep, straight, draw of plastic into the female mould it's paper thin.

Exhibit A. M'Lud (note the tear in the plastic):

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This will also give a solid base for the wing spars.

Normally for airframes like this I'd use a two pack foam - but as the JU-52 has such an open and visible interior that's not an option here.

Kit includes some white metal for the engines and upper gun section (I think there are gear struts as well). Engines will be replaced with Williams Bro's Pratt and Witney Wasps that were included in the Combat Models copy of the Modelbau Schmitt kit (which I also have in the stash)...

What I really need is more info on the bomb aimers/gunners dustbin and the bomb cells - piccies anyone?? :please:

Span - erm - about 3 feet - so pretty compact and bijou really! ;)

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 10:51 PM

Just found these pix - more needed! :)

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:01 AM

- brilliant Iain , even the bomb 'cabinets' . just the bomb sights to find and i'll be a happy bunny . - well done son ! :kissing2:

i've got something to start with , too . . .
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Q. anyboby got a photo/info of the bombbay doors ?

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 09:26 AM

What I really need is more info on the bomb aimers/gunners dustbin and the bomb cells - piccies anyone?? :please:



..you need the appropriate issue of Réplic...got it somewhere. For general details I posted a selection of the EADS Ju 52 at La Ferté over on the LEMB ..(you may need to register to see them)
http://www.luftwaffe...?showtopic=3671

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:23 AM

Thanks Blimp - looks like I need to get that photo-etch set - can scan and scale up on the PC and transfer to plastic sheet... :speak_cool:

Thanks FalkeEins - great pics :)

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:44 AM

Mutter, mutter, mutter...

Can't find the Eduard sets on stock anywhere - did they do the same thing fot the JU-52 in 1:48?

The cells on the '52 look a similar design - but smaller...

They seem to have done a detail set for the Bomber at some time - but no bomb cells?

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 02:32 PM

Iain , the eduard ESAC bomb cell set is now OOP , if you want it for a pattern, i'll just use the ones in my roden he 111 kit . - pm me . the photo shows the side panels have six holes , the he 111 set has different cut outs . - odd that the shot shows eight bomb cells , i thought the max load was 1500kg . (6x250kg) or permutations .

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 03:45 PM

- ah , the top photo , they are DSAC 250 magazines . normal fit was six cells , so why does this machine have eight ? and why would a bomber have a full rack of rifles - on the port wall ? probably not a bomber but a troop/munitions variant . good call though , answers a few questions . :rolleyes:
btw looking on the web i found these photos , might come in handy :rolleyes: http://picasaweb.goo...FAP?feat=email#

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:29 PM

spot the wally ! :doh: put my foot right in it .

- they are single 250kg cells but have 100kg bombs in them , not 250's . that'll teach me to look properly Iain .
[/left] at first i couldn't understand how there was such a large bombload so far aft , that would have put the centre of gravity/aerodynamic c.g. in the stall zone :blink:[left]
then i took a closer look and noticed there were TWO cells at the front . they also line up with lower fuselage hatches on known airframes - the offset cell also bothered me untill i took in the torque effect of the motors , so that layout is CORRECT ! that is one great photo and i apologise for any confusion . now i just need to iron out some airframe details and i can get cracking . - i'll put my ideas up as soon as i have them sorted , this might help other poor souls that fancy making a ju 52 bomber . oh such fun . :banghead:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:41 PM

Iain - I have the Eduard 1:48 Bomb bay kit for the 111 if you'd like to borrow it? Or have I missed the boat of usefulness? :fool:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 07:08 PM

you may be in time for departure Mike but this is a ocean going liner not a ferry

okay- that pushed the metaphor over way too far to capsize it, but it is the wrong scale
(the kit, not the metaphor)

Iain's build is 1/32 cos he's mad :mental:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 09:37 PM

hi guys , me again . the ju 52 bomb cells were a different design to the heinkels ESAC's - fewer holes etc. i'll knock up a sketch and post it went i get a chance , and i'll see what i can do with the turret / fuselage fit . :frantic:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 09:44 PM

you may be in time for departure Mike but this is a ocean going liner not a ferry

okay- that pushed the metaphor over way too far to capsize it, but it is the wrong scale
(the kit, not the metaphor)

Iain's build is 1/32 cos he's mad :mental:

Metaphorically speaking yes... but he was planning on scaling them up & making them from plaggy, so my original PE would be back home with me after being subjected to some of his scanner's photons. See? :smartass:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 11:33 PM

:sorry: :tapedshut:

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 11:56 PM

:rofl: steady now , i'll get some 250 DSAC plans done for the weekend for you all to play with . visiting my dad in hospital is using all my free time , (bad chest infection) but i reckon he'll escape by friday , and hopefully i'll be able to get to some more benchtime in . :thumbsup: