Scimitar F1 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) I have just made a start on my B(I)8 and was wondering what tweaks are necessary? It will be be a 3 Sqn machine with white lettering and black undersides. I have been trawling the web and various other builds for any corrections and these are what I have come up with: I have amended these to take into account of all the excellent posts Reshape bottom of leading edge of fin where it meets the fuselage Reshape forward part of wingtip tanks and add detail (i.e. wire on top surface Add MB Mk 2 seat (culled from a CA TT18) Add some cockpit details Change profile of rear of wingtips/ailerons - need to be more square in profile. Sort airbrakes - ideally via decals (I think someone had a scan on here and was going to produce some). Correctly assembly control surfaces to ensure that they fit Fill in trenches on rudder Thin jet pipe walls and rear nacelle walls Add omega antenna (later silver/LAG underside period only?) Add id lights under front fuselage. There is a clear picture of these on p59 of WT340 in the Delve/Green/Clemons book. Control column, use PART 43 and NOT part 8 as per instructions Engine nacelles only have 1 starter cartridge exhaust instead of 3 & exhausts inside the nacelle incorrect. Antennae - DO NOT FIT PARTS 37A, 38A & 39A (Instruction Stage 39) as these were NOT fitted to the RAF Mk8 Fill in the two small "B2" equip bay doors (Thanks Bex for these) Reshape elevator tips see this link http://www.ipmsusa2.org/Reviews/Kits/Aircr...48_canberra.htm (thanks Rick) Scribe details on to tailplanes Remove 'stub' from said tailplanes so that leading edge line is extended to join with fuselage Tone down or rescribe fuselage panel lines (particularly longitudinal variety) Lengthen bomb aimers optically flat glass to join with fuselage Move navigators window Reshape windows on either side of bomb aiming position (top is worse than bottom) Rescribe bombay doors if gun pack fitted as front pair of doors could open independently Edited to take the latest posts into account. Has anyone noted any others? Apparently there is something wrong with the front of the nacelles but it has eluded me to date. Will Edited April 26, 2009 by Scimitar F1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Youre welcome If you havent seen this website HERE then imho its the best Canberra site around Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 There are no vortex generators on the B(I)8, only the PR9. The control surfaces are ok as well, you just need to be careful to cement the correct parts together (one thin and one thicker per aileron) otherwise you will end up with different thicknesses. By spoilers doyou mean airbrakes? If so then there is a pattern although the ouline shape of the airbrake is not quite right. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I havent looked at my Mk8 kit yet, but, after the last couple of days, I will dig it out tomorrow and check it over, and report back Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 You'll need to change the outline of the tips of the elevators - not rounded enough. Add aerial plinth under nose - omega?? cheers Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Add aerial plinth under nose - omega??cheers Rick Wasnt fitted to Mk8 Now then folks, Ive noticed a few other boo boo's that are quite important: Control column, use PART 43 and NOT part 8 as per instructions Engine nacelles only have 1 starter cartridge exhaust instead of 3 & exhausts inside the nacelle incorrect. Antennae - DO NOT FIT PARTS 37A, 38A & 39A (Instruction Stage 39) as these were NOT fitted to the RAF Mk8 Bex Edited March 13, 2009 by bexwh773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) To add to other tweaks suggested you also might want to add the three id. lights and cover just behind the front undercarriage bay. I thought these were only on B.2 but I've got at least a couple of pics which show them clearly on the B(I).8 also. That error in misnumbering the aileron parts in the instructions caught me out and was ******* difficult to fix when I realised what had happened!!!! I'm currently working on B.2 and am still trying to find out exact pattern of underwing airbrakes and exact shape of fuel filler access panels on fuselage. HTH Andy Edited March 13, 2009 by andym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Andy, would love to see your Mk8 photos showing those lights, and give me an hour and I think I can sort out your B2 needs Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 No probs Bex. the books are at home so I'll bring them to office on Monday and scan pics in (dont have scanner at home). I must admit I was surprised to see them on Mk.8 too. I'm beginning to wonder if they were fitted to several other Mk's too? I have to say that all these details you posted from the B.2 manual where really helpful in accurizing the B.2. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) No probs Bex. the books are at home so I'll bring them to office on Monday and scan pics in (dont have scanner at home). I must admit I was surprised to see them on Mk.8 too. I'm beginning to wonder if they were fitted to several other Mk's too? Thanks Andy Well this ones got my attention thats for sure, couldve sworn they were just an early B2 fit I have to say that all these details you posted from the B.2 manual where really helpful in accurizing the B.2.Andy Youre most welcome, Im working on the basis of "Ive now got a chance to help out everyone thats helped me" I cant find anything on the fuel filler, but, its a small square metal plate, with a circular centre section that has a quick release in the centre of that, Im afraid I cant remember the dimensions off the top of my head. Oh, if anyone wants a copy of the 2 Martin Baker Bang Seat Mk2 Manuals, drop me a PM. All Ive got on the air brakes, is these 2 photos: NOTE: THESE TWO PHOTOS OF WT333 ARE COPYRIGHT OF JOHN DAVIDSON Bex Edited March 13, 2009 by bexwh773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Wasnt fitted to Mk8 Hi Bex not sure about that - I was referring to this one - you can see it just behind the shark's mouth on the Colerne shot and just under the trestle mark on the XM279 shot. I must admit I have not seen it on night intruder examples so maybe it was a retro-fit once they moved over to day scheme? Any thoughts? cheers Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Hi Bexnot sure about that - I was referring to this one - you can see it just behind the shark's mouth on the Colerne shot and just under the trestle mark on the XM279 shot. I must admit I have not seen it on night intruder examples so maybe it was a retro-fit once they moved over to day scheme? Any thoughts? cheers Rick Rick, Thank you for the correction I think you must be right with your assessment, because all the photos I have are of their early careers which doesnt show that antenna at all Bloody Canberras Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousER99 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 There are no vortex generators on the B(I)8, only the PR9. The control surfaces are ok as well, you just need to be careful to cement the correct parts together (one thin and one thicker per aileron) otherwise you will end up with different thicknesses. By spoilers doyou mean airbrakes? If so then there is a pattern although the ouline shape of the airbrake is not quite right.Tony I am a victim of the aileron issue!!! I found out about it well after I assembled them....... Sucks to be me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Hey Bex - no probs - pleased to be of any assistance at all! Any clue what they are - certainly look like omega to me - anybody else? Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimitar F1 Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 I have made some amendments to the list. Very pleased that there are no vortex generators! Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Rick, Not sure at the moment, but Im going hunting to find out Will, I think we're getting there, got a nice list now havent we Bexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Hi Scimitar F1 take a look at this review - maybe you've already seen it! It details the elevator tips issue although I would argue that even then he hadn't brought the radius far enough forwards but it's still a major improvement on the kit. cheers Rick http://www.ipmsusa2.org/Reviews/Kits/Aircr...48_canberra.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimitar F1 Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 Thanks Rick. Another good tip. The kit is shaping up to be perfect - enough to do to keep you from feeling like an assembler but not so much you get sick of it. Will Hi Scimitar F1take a look at this review - maybe you've already seen it! It details the elevator tips issue although I would argue that even then he hadn't brought the radius far enough forwards but it's still a major improvement on the kit. cheers Rick http://www.ipmsusa2.org/Reviews/Kits/Aircr...48_canberra.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Re: my previous comment on the RA7 cartridge exhausts being incorrect (1 instead of 3) this photo on Airliners shows the 3 plumes of cartridge exhaust perfectly allowing you to work out where they should be Airliners.Net Linky EDIT: And another WT333 again Bex Edited March 16, 2009 by bexwh773 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheModeller Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned the inaccurate tailplane roots, so far its an issue that hasn't been picked up by any of the reviews, online or in the media, plenty of reference images on this forum show the problem clearly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned the inaccurate tailplane roots, so far its an issue that hasn't been picked up by any of the reviews, online or in the media, plenty of reference images on this forum show the problem clearly enough. Do you mean where the verticle stabilizer meets the fuselage? Or have we missed something else? Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spad Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 are we referring to the lack of gap under the tailplane - a feature captured by Airfix themselves with their 1/72 example 25+ years ago.....?? Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheModeller Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Do you mean where the verticle stabilizer meets the fuselage? Or have we missed something else?Bex Thats the puppy, there shouldn't be a horizontal stub at the root of the tailplanes, though if it's eliminated then the tailplanes and elevators need lengthening to make up the shortfall... Spad is also right, the whole root area is sadly lacking in features as well as the inaccuracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexwh773 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Thats the puppy, there shouldn't be a horizontal stub at the root of the tailplanes, though if it's eliminated then the tailplanes and elevators need lengthening to make up the shortfall...Spad is also right, the whole root area is sadly lacking in features as well as the inaccuracy... Thanks Modeller, youre a star........... I couldve sworn Will had that one his modified post No.1 Anyways, something else we've now got cleared up Bex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 With regards to the tailplanes is it the case they could have their angle of incidence varied, hence the gap underneath and the overlap above? TIA Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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