Jetgrob Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Hi I am looking to build A Vampire, Meteor and Canberra all in High Speed Silver. My question is what paint is a good match for this colour. I live in Canada and Xtracolour is not available and neither at the moment is Humbrol metalcote. ( I was going to use Humbrol Aluminium metalcote) I do have access to Humbrol, (Full range except metalcote) Vallejo, (Full range including the metal range.) AK, (Full range including the metal range.) Tamiya, (Full range.) Mr hobby. (Full range including the metal range.) Any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Tamiya AS-12 Lacquer in the spray can is a good choice. You can either spray direct from the can or decant for spraying from an airbrush (my preferred method). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magua87 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Also, I've also found Gunze (Mr Hobby) silver 8 Lacquer to be a good choice. It comes in a bottle, so no decanting required for airbrushing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme H Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Another for Tamiya AS12, once you try it, you will never look at another silver in the same way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Magua87 said: Tamiya AS-12 Lacquer in the spray can is a good choice. You can either spray direct from the can or decant for spraying from an airbrush (my preferred method). Yes AS-12 spray can is what you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 FWIW, although you didn't mention the brand, Alclad also does High Speed Silver (ALC 125). Alclad is almost always my choice for metallics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetgrob Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Thanks guys I will get the AS-11, I'm sure my local hobby store has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 16/04/2018 at 10:05 PM, Seawinder said: FWIW, although you didn't mention the brand, Alclad also does High Speed Silver (ALC 125). Alclad is almost always my choice for metallics. Unfortunately Hannant's listing of such paints (Alcald 2) only goes as far as ALC124, then starts again at ALC201! Could you possibly re-confirm the number as there are lots of other 'Silvers'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Denford said: Unfortunately Hannant's listing of such paints (Alcald 2) only goes as far as ALC124, then starts again at ALC201! Could you possibly re-confirm the number as there are lots of other 'Silvers'! Well, I just Googled Alclad 125, and there it was, available at a bunch of sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Humbrol 11 is a good choice as HSS is a silver grey. HSS is not metallic at all so I would stay away from metalcote type paints. When the RAF moved to polyurethane paints in the late 60's and they could not produce at that time a HSS paint in polyurethane for technical reasons , the colour they chose to replace it, as they considered it the closest match was Light Aircraft Grey. Selwyn Edited April 18, 2018 by Selwyn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I’m given to understand that high speed silver weathered to an almost mat silver/aluminium. There is a fine example of a meteor T7 at the Newark air museum that’s kept outside and I’ve managed to just about match its colour. Ive found that spraying on a really bright shiny silver from a rattle can then, after a coat of clear and decals I spray on a Matt varnish.. it looks ok to me anyway 🤔 Edited April 19, 2018 by speedbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 58 minutes ago, speedbird said: I’m given to understand that high speed diver weathered to an almost mat silver/aluminium. There is a fine example of a meteor T7 at the Newark air museum that’s kept outside and I’ve managed to just about match its colour. Ive found that spraying on a really bright shiny silver from a rattle can then, after a coat of clear and decals I spray on a Matt varnish.. it looks ok to me anyway 🤔 The RNZAF had Vampires in High Speed Silver (HSS), and if you look at these two photos of an Ex RNZAF Vampire at MOTAT here in Auckland (under cover) you can see the Silver/Aluminium colour Reiterating Selwyn's post above 1 hour ago, Selwyn said: Humbrol 11 is a good choice as HSS is a silver grey. HSS is not metallic at all so I would stay away from metalcote type paints. When the RAF moved to polyurethane paints in the late 60's and they could not produce at that time a HSS paint in polyurethane for technical reasons , the colour they chose to replace it, as they considered it the closest match was Light Aircraft Grey. Selwyn It was a 50/50 ratio of Aluminum and Clear cellulose Dope paints. Regards Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I'm with Selwyn, Humbrol 11 all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesP Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) HSS as mentioned is a silvery grey, initially gloss but wore to matt (er) finish. Almost every image of it looks different. In the past I've used Citadel Mithril Silver, it has a fine fleck but definitely not NMF. Still too shiny I think. Very recently I tried Xtracolor HSS but again too shiny so I experimented with using a a light grey filter ( very thin GS light aircraft grey) and was pretty happy with the result. As long as no one paints it as a NMF such as Alclad or AK Extreme I'm good. Edited April 20, 2018 by JamesP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidragon Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) On Heller instruction sheets, the colour is described as 'Gris Perle'; Pearl Grey. I was thinking of Humbrol 191, but on reflection that looks too light to me, and 56 too dark. I've always found 11 too shiny; and don't Humbrol reckon that their metallics cannot be overcoated? Edited April 19, 2018 by Chillidragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Riot Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 This is what I use, with two examples of how it turns out. I don't know how exactly accurate it is in terms of BS number, etc - but it looks good enough to me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbird Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I have no idea how to post pics so I can’t show my HSS finish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayprit Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I used to post photos on here at one time, but stopped when I accidently came across some which had been stolen and posted on various websites worldwide.............its quiet a shock when you type in searching for an item and when the results appear, you see a completely different web site, hosting your pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMG Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Citadel Mithril Silver is my favourite for HSS, with a thin coat of Windsor & Newton Galleria satin or matt varnish over the top. They discontinued Mithril Silver a while ago though but Runefang Steel is supposed to be the equivalent replacement. I haven't tried that yet though as I've still got a couple of the old pots stashed away. A couple of my efforts using it, 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Have also used Mithril Silver before, under a satin varnish. Runefang Steel seems to me to be a bit coarser grained and more metallic looking. Also used Xtracrylix RLM01 Silber. All these metallic colours can be toned down using small amounts of white or light grey. Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I use Halford's Aluminium for my HSS, I have a few unused Canberra panels painted HSS silver and they are a quite 'dull' satin silver, but like all aircraft paint pick what you like and you can probably find a photo of an aircraft in HSS to match. John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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