Neil.C Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Spent an hour or two yesterday sorting out my ancient Humbrol paints that were stored in the garage, quite a few of them are probably forty years old! Very tiresome job but productive. It involved opening every tin, many with jammed down lids, and inspecting the contents. Some were difficult to decipher as the numbers on some had gone a bit rusty but in the end only five were solid and unusable. I made a note of all the paint numbers as I went through them so at least I now know what I have although quite why I have four number 33 Matt black I have no idea! At least my new stock list should prevent me from buying any more matt black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventora3300 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I also found that I had a couple of H33 Matt blacks but it was because I though one of them had gone 'off' and wasn't matt any more, so I bought another one. However, the original tin was sorted by stirring thoroughly and adding a drop of thinners - it behaves really well now and dries really quickly. This has made me stir all the tins really well now every time I use them, not just when I think they have been sitting a while. Lesson learned! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Matt Black is very underated in my opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbody Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) A list, if anyone's interested. Chris Edited April 3, 2018 by dogsbody 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil.C Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Thanks for that listing Chris, very comprehensive. I do have silver MC17 that doesn't seem to appear though. Wonder what that was for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 MC.17 is Standard Figures Silver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil.C Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Ratch said: MC.17 is Standard Figures Silver Standard figures silver? What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Humbrol Authentics were broken down into small groups. Standard Figures MC.13 White MC.14 Black MC.15 Flesh MC.16 Gold MC.17 Silver MC.18 Brass Likewise there were groupings of Rail, GWR, LNER, LMS, SR, BR (Freight), BR (Passenger), German Railways No.1, German Railways No.2, WW1 Aircraft, Cockpit Colours, Russian Aircraft, Luftwaffe, RAF (European), RAF (Overseas), RAF (Post War), French Air Force, Fleet Air Arm, Japanese Air Force, USA WW2, USAF, USAF (Navy & Marine Contemporary), USAF (Vietnam), Italian Air Force, Swedish Contemporary, Israeli Contemporary, Naval Vessels, USN Contemporary, Sailing Ships, Scenic (i & ii), WW2 & Post War Tanks, Military Vehicles, Military Equipment, Combat Uniforms, British Napoleonics, French/Prussian Napoleonics and another set for figures Ancients. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I wonder how many modellers in the early 1970s first came across FS numbers through Matchbox specifying Humbrol Authentics for the A-7 Corsair. I see also from the card that if I'd bought the German railways set I'd have encountered RAL specs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 39 minutes ago, JosephLalor said: I wonder how many modellers in the early 1970s first came across FS numbers through Matchbox specifying Humbrol Authentics for the A-7 Corsair. I see also from the card that if I'd bought the German railways set I'd have encountered RAL specs as well. Me, for a start! I may have been just a kid at the time, but I still wanted to get the colours right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I love old Humbrols and have a fair old stash of them...mostly 30 to 40 years old and all work perfectly. Bagged a few very old trade packs of Humbrol 11 at a boot sale recently, probably date from the mid 70s at a guess. Back in the very early 80s, my school mate and keen modelling buddy always referred to Humbrol 11 as "Silver Fox"...was that an official Humbrol thing as the list above just says "Silver"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Humbrol 11 was originally described as Metallic Silver Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) Please delete Edited April 5, 2018 by Ratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightersweep Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Thanks Ratch! Does that mean that if the tins I have are about 40 years old, I can call them Silver Fox to be authentic? I'll have to send my mate a tin...I was always borrowing his "Silver Fox" back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Alas, that Authentics chart isn't the full list (you might guess this from the LSD prices at the bottom!). It misses out, for example, the USN range for the modern US Navy, and the HT range for WWII Russian aircraft. When Humbrol dropped the Authentic range they published a quite useful leaflet that gave conversion charts for the normal Humbrol range, plus some attempts at matching to RAL, BS, FS, Heller, Revell, Testors, Gunze Sangyo and Tamiya. (In case you want to look for one, it was a six-panel Z-fold with the Humbrol name in ten colours at either end and a Marfleet address.) Like many they were approximations, but I've always found the Authentic-to-Humbrol table helpful, and if nothing else it shows you how cunningly they were packaging matt black under umpteen different names. A bit like all the chocolate bars that turn out to be nothing but Cadbury's Dairy Milk in drag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 15 hours ago, pigsty said: When Humbrol dropped the Authentic range they published a quite useful leaflet that gave conversion charts for the normal Humbrol range, plus some attempts at matching to RAL, BS, FS, Heller, Revell, Testors, Gunze Sangyo and Tamiya. (In case you want to look for one, it was a six-panel Z-fold with the Humbrol name in ten colours at either end and a Marfleet address.) Like many they were approximations, but I've always found the Authentic-to-Humbrol table helpful, and if nothing else it shows you how cunningly they were packaging matt black under umpteen different names. A bit like all the chocolate bars that turn out to be nothing but Cadbury's Dairy Milk in drag. Sounds like the Humbrol Colour System - I have a 1996 edition in a binder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratch Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Conversion charts for different brands and the equivalent Humbrol paints The colours required for modelling in each genre, with a straight from the tin Humbrol or the correct mix of Humbrol paints as listed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil.C Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 21 hours ago, Ratch said: Humbrol 11 was originally described as Metallic Silver Fox Funnily enough Ford had a colour called Silver Fox metallic in the early '70's. It mostly fell off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Neil.C said: Funnily enough Ford had a colour called Silver Fox metallic in the early '70's. It mostly fell off! My parents had a Cortina Mk III in Silver Fox. Indeed, it did mostly fall off! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil.C Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, lasermonkey said: My parents had a Cortina Mk III in Silver Fox. Indeed, it did mostly fall off! Shocking real!y, the other offender was Blue Mink. Used to come off in sheets! I bought a flaky Blue Mink mkII Cortina cheap and resprayed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigsty Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Ratch said: Sounds like the Humbrol Colour System - I have a 1996 edition in a binder Blimey, that's even better than mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I've found out that Hu 87 bluegrey these days actually are Hu 175 greengrey. So, no it aint usefull for the undersidor of Swedish Viggen and Draken any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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