hovis Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I need some advice to reactivate my modelling mojo again. I'm building a Greek Air Force Corsair II, painted it up in the correct SEA colour scheme, knowing fine well I should've lightened each colour a bit, but I didn't. Then I went ahead and decaled, Kleared and weathered it, but it's ended up looking a bit too dark for my liking. Question is, how can I go about lightening up the paintwork and giving a bit of a sun-bleached look to it without ruining the decals? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) I recently did a British Pacific Fleet Corsair MkII on which the paint looked a bit fresh. I over sprayed it with a light mist of thinned Tamiya Sky Grey having first masked off some areas I wanted to keep fresh. If you do it unevenly some panels will look more faded than others. The advantage is that the markings will get faded too... a liitle bit then stop and walk away is the key... Edited March 11, 2018 by Grey Beema Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thanks for replying. So, on a three-tone colour scheme, would you spray a thin light mist of each colour, rather than say, an overall mist of light grey or white? I hear what you say about doing a bit at a time though, I'd be scared of overdoing it on the first squirt.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Looking at a few pictures on the internet I think I would do a general fade with an overall thinned mist coat with the flow turned right down pressure turned up a bit to ensure the mist. It is very noticeable that there is fresh paint around the the panelling on the nose and that the edges of that fresh paint are straight. I think I'd be breaking out the post it notes for that. Remember do do a little bit then walk away.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yes i agree “less is more” is the correct attitude for weathering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 OK you've all convinced me, I'll attempt a light mist. Light grey rather than some sort of light sandy dust colour, for a really dirty, faded Greek machine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 There's a couple of shots here of the Corsair that I recently finished. You can see how light the overstaying/fading is.. There's a couple of shots here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Gordon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 This piccie might be of use. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Grey Beema, that's fantastic work, especially the wing with the original "clean" roundal area compared with the rest it. That's exactly what is needed! Cheers Alex, I have that pic and that's exactly the look I was trying to get, although as I say, I used the correct paints but didn't bother my ars head to lighten them a touch. As you can see though, it does get really sun bleached! In fact, that is the actual airframe I'm building... Edited March 12, 2018 by hovis spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Gordon Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) You could slightly darken the darker bits,it is all about creating the illusion after all. Edited March 12, 2018 by Alex Gordon Keyboard Lysdexia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Beema Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Chris, Can I suggest that you mask off the nose before the fading as the black there looks in reasonably good nick. After the fading paint in around the panel edges in the original colour. You could also fade the odd panel slightly more.. Oh and let us know how you got on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 I have applied a bit of a browny grime wash to the panel lines as in the pic Alex above linked to, but again I think it needed to be a lighter shade.... I'll see if I can work out this photobucket thingy and show you what I'm dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 12, 2018 Author Share Posted March 12, 2018 OK it worked. Now, remember I'm haven't started a lot of the dirtying and weathering yet as I thought the paint was too dark, and the model is shiny after the Klear coat for the decals, I'mm be matting that down big time stylee. But compare with Alex's link above and you can see the difference. That green patch below the cockpit is meant to be the darker of the two greens in the camo scheme!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Do bear in mind that the paint will look distinctly lighter after you apply a flat coat, especially the darker colors. Since you haven't flat-coated yet, another possible technique would be to mix a very small amount of gray in with the flat coat itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Now there's a thought...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawinder Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 To be honest, I've never tried the gray mixed in the flat coat technique, but one of my modeling friends has and claims success. I'd err on the side of caution: apply the flat coat unmixed first, then re-evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yeah, think I might experiment on something else first just in case.... I'll let you know how I get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasto Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 One option you might consider is to work over the camo colours you have applied with oil paints. You can get some basic sets for no much money and mix up a range of tones for each of the base colours and apply and work in to give you shading and fading effects. If you over do it and don’t like the finish just wipe it off with a bit of enamel thinners. once you have the effect you like. Let it fully dry over a number of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 You might find a set of artists chalk pastels will give you the effect you need whilst having a lot of control (e.g. not painting your roundels light green!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Lots of good ideas and suggestions so far and all will work well, it depends on which medium you are most comfortable at using. In your particular situation with the decals on and gloss coated (I presume the decals are sealed in with the gloss?) i would go for fading with oil paints. The advantage there is they remain workable for a long time and can be completely removed while still workable if you think you've over done it or just don't like the effect. Small dots of light colours randomly placed then worked in to spread them around should work a treat. There are lots of examples of how to do this technique on the internet if you are unsure. Duncan B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hovis Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Very true Duncan, lots of food for thought. As you mention, they're all fairly different, and not any technique I've tried up til now. Misting might be a good "quick fix", but isn't modelling all about trying to improve your technique for the next model? Both pastels and oils sound like good advice, I have used oils before, but only the two shades of brown I use for oil stains and grime like that. I might actually try the oil route on this one, the technique I have slightly more experience with. I'll post up how it went on here just in case there's any interest. Thanks everybody. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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