JWM Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 The article on Willow is in this volume of Avions https://www.pdfmagaz.in/03105117-avions-n-190-2012-11-12/ There are very interesting profiles Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 My understanding is the Willow was specifically designed and built to train navy pilots. The Arawasi publication seems to confirm this, at least no profiles that would be considered as civilian. Post war, some 20 airframes were pressed into service by Indonesian forces. There is one interesting profile of an aircraft with a university that had created program for students who wanted to become pilots for the Imperial Navy; regards, Jack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) J-W is that a legit site to download from, or is just the magazine cover you wanted to display?? Reviews of Novafile warn it's a scam, and really is a fraudulent 'business'. regards, Jack Edited April 15, 2020 by JackG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 There is a link to download but I did not tried since I have it as a hard copy. I do not even if it is free or to pay for. J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Magazine image is ok, but out of respect to the publishers, moderators should remove the link as that site supports piracy. regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 minute ago, JackG said: Magazine image is ok, but out of respect to the publishers, moderators should remove the link as that site supports piracy. regards, Jack Oh, i did not know it. I removed the link, thank you and sorry J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 I've checked both https://www.aircraft-navalship.com/ and ebay for a back issue copy, but came up empty. Am curious, are any of the profiles in the magazine not Japanese military? regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 My memory plays a game with me, apparently. I was to lazy to dig out on my books so I look through Internet resources googling "Avions magazine" and "k5y willow" and I found what I found I thought that this is what I have. But today I went through my book shelves and found that article on Willow in Avions which I have is different, it is from #187 Mai-Juni 2012. And there is no civil Willows in that. But it is funny, since I remember the green/orange painting scheme for Willow and it is not present in the article. So - the momory plays the game, as I said.... Regards J-W P.S. Here is a civie machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackG Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 The aircraft in the above photo is also featured in Arawashi publication. The markings are a combination of both civilian (dove in black circle, overpainted J, fuselage stripe and fuselage registration number), and military (new tail number). Concerning the fuselage hinomaru, this does not appear to directly infer military owned, since this marking was mandatory for all aircraft when the Pacific war began. Upon reading this section, my understanding is many civilian schools (along with newly created ones), were taken over and run by the state to train pilots. This began in June 1938, when the army/navy was no longer supplying pilots to the Ministry of Communications. Eventually these were all taken over by the military. Unfortunately no date supplied for the photo, and the text does not provide a date when these schools acquired Willows - was it during civilian period or state run or military owned??? Reading in between the lines, it would have to be assumed J-BFHT was originally civilian (or possibly state owned) because it obviously has a civilian registration number. regards, Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOCKNEY Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Really interesting discussion, the colour of the aircraft particularly the shade of orange is a subject in its own right ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Russell Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 11:13 AM, JackG said: are any of the profiles in the magazine not Japanese military Every aircraft photograph is of one with a hinomaru on it, as are all of the profiles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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