janneman36 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Hi all, Just started the Airfix Sea Fury as with most kits started at the cockpit .. I must say the cockpit looks very nice and most instruments are a separate items to ease placement over the raised detail. These are small so be careful here !! I had a case of no plastic where it should be, this is the seat support and it misses the lower bar.. And this is how it should look It isn't a big problem as I still have the upper bar and hole where the seat is placed. And in this way it is still placed very solid, the lower one is not to be seen anyway in this cramped all black cockpit!! I am still waiting for a seat harnas that I ordered as the kit doesn't provide one. The construction is relatively easy but the instructions call for closing up the fuselage in order to construct the wing in good order.. But I am still in need for the harnas before I close it up so I decided to construct all sub assembly's like the engine and wings I also glued the cockpit tub in the fuselage and leaving the left frame of the tub loose in the frame during my test fittings. This is the wing strengthening construction. in the pic below it is in place..be carefull aligning the parts and test fit a lot before you glue it in place because so many loose parts can be fiddly.. On the plus side if you like to fondle your plastic a lot you will be in heaven Here I have the joints of the wings filled with thinned putty as those joints look out of place because on some places they are to deep or leave some gaps. I thin my putty with Tamiya extra thin glue in order to get the line more consistent. The wheel wells are painted in azure blue as I have seen this on Iraqi Fury's, Airfix calls for linen which is correct but Sea Fury's seem to have been painted in the underside colours as well!! The Humbrol 157 Azure has been a color that is often subject of discussion to be of a incorrect hue but I have seen a Pakistani color pic of a Fury that was painted in the same scheme and it looked the same to me as the 157 with only being it a tat lighter in real life! I allready did put a few drops of white in the Azure. Painted the spinner.. And again a testfit, I did a little sanding on the fuselage fillets and lower part of the wing wich mates up with fuselage in order to get a good fit/sit. As it looks for now I am not in need of filler with the upper wing and fuselage joint! The engine was already testfitted and fits perfectly well, albeit not shown in my pictures. The engine cowling needs a little love and care. Did sand away some detail in order to get a proper fit but no worry's here as they are going to reinstated.. This left side was a little deformed with some loss of detail on the aft cowling ring !! The right side was a lot better.. Frontal view of the cowling. So far it is a very lovely kit to built with some nice features and I am enjoing this build a lot, it already raised some eyebrows when I took it to the club this week in this state.. Cheers, Jan 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim T Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Great work. My two arrived today and I am probably going to do one as a Cuban bird and the other using the decals in the box. Will be following with interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham T Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) IIRC the u/c bays were factory finished in a colour known as "Hawker Yellow", somewhat similar but paler than zinc chromate, however often over painted sky during line maintenance. Edited February 8, 2018 by Graham T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbus320 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Watching with interest as I have a Fury ISS planned also!! Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tim T said: Great work. My two arrived today and I am probably going to do one as a Cuban bird and the other using the decals in the box. Will be following with interest. Like to see your rendition of the Cuban Fury Tim! Those decals from the kit are top notch 34 minutes ago, Graham T said: IIRC the u/c bays were factory finished in a colour known as "Hawker Yellow", somewhat similar but paler than zinc chromate, however often over painted sky during line maintenance. Thanks Graham, it is probably almost the same as Airfix describes as far as i can make up from the pictures i have seen. The color pic i have seen from the the Pakistan Fury had the insides the same color as the underside! I have seen insides on a restored example which looks like the Azure color i am using... It wil be a can of worms to get it historically correct i think so hence the artistic touch to it(unless i make it factory fresh) 18 minutes ago, airbus320 said: Watching with interest as I have a Fury ISS planned also!! Chris Nice Chris, looking forward to yours as well. I hope i can distract the complaint department with this build and let see the positive side of this Fury.. Cheers, Jan Edited February 8, 2018 by janneman36 Put my name in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 What a lovely change ! Someone has the nerve to actually BUILD the new Airfix kit and not pontificate , criticise, run around yelling ''The sky is falling'' etc etc Looking forward to seeing this come along Great work 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k5054nz Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 5 hours ago, janneman36 said: I hope i can distract the complaint department with this build and let see the positive side of this Fury.. Hear hear. After all the excitement of waiting for this (and the Phantom) the tone of several posts had made me mellow a bit. And then I see a WIP like yours and all is right with the world! Thanks for sharing your build. The selfish part of me is hoping for camo - those Baghdad birds looked mean in the browns over blue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Exactly Zac Its a pity we don't have a ''Dislike' button as well as a ''like'' button as i would be using it all the time Cheers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I always liked that Iraqi Fury scheme, trying to remember if they had hooks but I assume they dont* Good to see you doing this and as alluded to, nice just to see modelling instead of whinging * a penalty of getting old, I sometimes forget I'm modelling and just sit looking at nice plastic Fondling... 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylo66 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Nice work, love that instrument panel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 27 minutes ago, perdu said: I always liked that Iraqi Fury scheme, trying to remember if they had hooks but I assume they dont I think there was a mix, with some having the ventral cut out at the bottom of the rudder whilst others didn’t. The problem with photos is that the Iraqi warbirds have been restored and some are in different schemes. I think there is one done as an RAN bird and others that weren’t Iraqi and which are now painted up that way! Try and find a period photo! And yes, it’s good that one is actually being built. Trevor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) @ Perdu and Trevor, there was indeed a mix of these aircraft with a hook system and without hooks. The original newly ordered ones are without those hook system and had those flat tails and extended rudders and later on there was a batch delivered of ex navy aircraft and these where modified but only by deleting the hook itself! If you search carefully on the net you can find pics of these aircraft! In the end during 1979 24 of these aircraft where bought in Iraq to David Tallichet and Ed Jurist in the states. Most where restored to flying condition some of these recieved a R2800 engine and even R3350 engines and where fitted in this case with four bladed prop. If i am correct those flying or flew in this livery where original from that batch of 24 Iraqi aircraft.. Linky to an original http://www.fastaero.be/media-2/?album=1&gallery=7 This one was one of the original aircraft with the extended rudder and i am going to use an old Aeromaster decal set 48-712 which depicts an early one .. Thanks to you all for the positive reactions Cheers, Jan Edited February 9, 2018 by janneman36 Linky added 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Small update as I did some sanding on the wing edges which needed almost no filler, no pics of that though.. There where a few ejector marks on the inside landing gear covers that are attached to the gear this took a very careful cleanup . On the outside of these covers there is a bulge on each side that isn't there on the ISS Fury and are sanded off as well. Also made the rudder extension which is drying at the moment for further treatment. Did some paint mixing as well as was trying to get the Azure a little more vibrant and lighter,just an experiment ... As a base I still used the humbrol 157 and threw some blue 25 and white in it.. Shown here are three pics that shows what lighting and compensation can do to color! The fun part of this experiment is that my color chip in no way compares to what I see when I hold it to the screen against these pictures!!! Cheers ,Jan Edited February 9, 2018 by janneman36 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) Next step were the seatbelts, my local hobbyshop had a set with three sets in them from Eduard and these are basically the same as the set special for the Airfix kit which has only one set in the bag!! Price difference was about 60p more for three instead of having one DSC_6498 DSC_6495 Now able to close the thing up with these belts in and the nose job had to be done ...there was a little need of filler but hey it is a nose job.. First I had the nose already put together and attached it to the ring that should be glued to the fuselage. I put it on but after a little bit of fondling with this attached I still wasn't happy about the fit, in all the nose consist of three rings and the third wasn't aligned properly!! So of it went and tried it again and at that moment still happy but then I looked again at a real Fury nose and saw that it was fairly snug fitted on that thing . My inner ring being the one with the bonnet as I call it was smaller in diameter that the forward and aft cowl ring and so of it went. And finally the third time is a charm, the problem was solved with a shim being inserted enlarging the diameter! DSC_6512 DSC_6511 DSC_6523 DSC_6529 DSC_6528 DSC_6533 DSC_6546 DSC_6538 DSC_6536 Next step where the nav lights on the wingtips.. These are being drilled out to and filled with the appropriate color to resemble the bulbs .. The first was spot on but the next was ruined by my own doing (and we all complain about the Airfix *****ups) So of I go with a clear sprue drilled it out as par procedure and glued it in place.. After the glue had hardened I was able to sand it in shape and polish it and voila a perfect nav light!! DSC_6525 DSC_6526 DSC_6530 DSC_6531 DSC_6527 Then after my paint experiment I came to the conclusion that a bottle of Vallejo Azure was cheaper than spending time on mixing .... But here a comparison of my brief experiment and shake and paint color from Vallejo (this isn't the air paint from them but hairy stick edition which airbrushes very well) The wheel wells had already a good primer in that being the Humbrol Azure blue, this is what am going to use as a primer on the whole model!! The lightest shade is the Vallejo Azure.. DSC_6494 DSC_6521 DSC_6514 The tail is also in shape by now!! DSC_6522 During my investigations on the web I discovered that Fury N57JB is in an American museum and still in a RAN color scheme it got when it was first restored after being bought in Iraqi stock condition.. It flew in the early eighties and then was sold to the U.S. to it's current owner albeit being in airworthy condition this aircraft is not flown for a long time now. The fun thing is with this aircraft that it is a original ISS aircraft and being number 23 of the first batch of aircraft, we don't know to which level the restoration was carried out but it still has Azure blue wheel wells! That being said is that I am more confident about that colour being used for my aircraft wheel wells which was ISS19.. Cheers, Jan Edited February 13, 2018 by janneman36 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJP Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Hi Jan - this looks like a great kit of the Sea Fury at last and nice for us to see a pair of skilled hands assembling it - I do have reservations about the shape of the spinner in the kit though but maybe someone like Barracudacast will sort that out - watching this with interest as it is on my purchase list. CJP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 31 minutes ago, CJP said: Hi Jan - this looks like a great kit of the Sea Fury at last and nice for us to see a pair of skilled hands assembling it - I do have reservations about the shape of the spinner in the kit though but maybe someone like Barracudacast will sort that out - watching this with interest as it is on my purchase list. CJP Thanks for your compliment! I think you will love this kit, it isn't perfect but for this price you don't hear me complain!! I have a Hobbycraft built once and when you put these next to each other the difference is big in level of detail.. Cheers, Jan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funguseater Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 When I think of my first ever Airfix kit, which my dad bought me back in 1968 (a Thunderbolt in those bags...anyone remember ?), and what we get in todays offerings...I will never moan. Keeping an eye on this thread with interest as I have one waiting to be started. I can remember that first kit...the dog got hold of it and ate the canopy. Yes, I cried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedders Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Really nice to see this going together. Makes me want to look again at my Trumpeter 1/72 kit... Justin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Well the thing is painted in my primer color.. And ready for findig blemishes like sinkholes and other uneven places wich are not easely seen without paint... The low wintersun definetly shows those sinkholes very well And nothing that putty can't solve, still not perfect but much better in the end... Finally a coat of Humbrol 84 mid stone on it ... This nose looks fine but in the end it wasn't good enough for me ... You have to sand around those details and in the end i wasn't happy with a lot of very small blemishes, so i sanded all of these off in order to get a smooth nose... They will return.... Next thing are the cow spots wich is Humbrol 29 dark earth, the technicue i use is that of shaped play-doh rolls... You can make it a more tacky with adding some water to it. It is also easy to wash off when it leaves residue!! Play-doh is basically a very salty dough with a color in it.. And the overall result one arabian cow!! This looks pretty okay but i still am finetuning the spots on overspray and uneven coated spots... At least it starts to look like an almost finished aircraft.... The most time was spent on finding blemishes this week and boy i found more of them than i wished for and this wasn't always the kits fault...a lot of these where mine as well Cheers, Jan Edited February 21, 2018 by janneman36 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avro683 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 On 09/02/2018 at 8:24 AM, perdu said: I always liked that Iraqi Fury scheme, trying to remember if they had hooks but I assume they dont* Good to see you doing this and as alluded to, nice just to see modelling instead of whinging * a penalty of getting old, I sometimes forget I'm modelling and just sit looking at nice plastic Fondling... 😀 Sea Furies did have hooks as they primarily operated from aircraft carriers. One is provided in the kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airbus320 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Looking great! AFAIK the first batch of Fury FB.60s provided to Iraq did not have arrestor hooks or the mounting hump. A later batch of refurbished ex-RN FB.11s had the hump but no hook. Chris 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 That is just what I remember from the Sea Fury Profile publication too ☺ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, airbus320 said: Looking great! AFAIK the first batch of Fury FB.60s provided to Iraq did not have arrestor hooks or the mounting hump. A later batch of refurbished ex-RN FB.11s had the hump but no hook. Chris Absolutely correct there about these Fury's and thanks for your compliment! Still busy reinstating some details that where lost so i hope to make a update on tuesday with some pics. Sometimes the details that i change will not give me what i like to see so it takes a littlebit longer to finish the thing but slowly getting there..... Cheers, Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Did some make some progress on this but it was a little of one step forward and two back I was nearly to a point that I thought about giving up because the Vallejo gave me some headaches during the decaling process as the paint softened up after applying the clearcoat and diluted with that! And after that at some point I ruined my paint job on the Vallejo Azure again after applying a white decal stripe that needed to be In pairs of two on the wing. After the first one on I decided to leave these of as these aircraft at some point flew without them, but getting this stripe off it wasn't as easy as I thought so I marred the delicately soften't azure underside So here some results.... Nevertheless I regained myself and I was back on track after a day..and then ruined my newly painted and partly decalled tail whit a scratch so I needed to redo that one as well..... As I went decaling I didn't seem to find the right numbers and places for them as there are so many of them for the stenciling so I marked these that I had done away with a black marker to keep it easy ... The rudder will be riveted with HGW Webgarten silver rivets and it gives it a very restraint look and when you see it in real life and you almost won't notice it unless the light falls on it at the right angle .. some people at the club didn't even saw it at first until I told them to look a little bit better. I also did some on the aft cowling lip where in reallife these rivets are noticeable.. The fin flash needs some touching up as the rivets are thick and high and maybe a little overdone for the size they are .... As you all can see a can be fairly happy with the result and slowly I am getting there.. It may not be perfect but I have more kits to build.. Cheers. Jan Edited March 11, 2018 by janneman36 info and photo added 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janneman36 Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) I did polished the cockpit hood today, it had a small annoying sort off miniscule small dot in it !! I think it was a remnant of my last polishing effort but it was very small and difficult to tell if it was in the plastic or on the in or outside.. So armoured with my reading glasses and magnifying glass I came to the discovery that it was on the inside and I carefully removed it with my surgical blade.. And after that carefully sanding it again with a nail polish set.. Then the buffing with a lens cloth and Tamiya polishing compound started resulting in a blemish free and shiny hood, believe me it sounds easy but you need time and patience and the all ever learning curve to get it right.. Nowadays I am not afraid to buff out any scratches on my clear pieces and I don't have to dip them into a clear coat to make them shiny The masking tape is from Tamiya and is the flexible vinyl one and works like a charm for curves.. Just put some masking fluid on it and letting it dry, sadly I have to go to work so i have to stop Cheers, Jan Edited March 11, 2018 by janneman36 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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