71chally Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Rich is correct, the RAF FG.1s retained the cat hooks etc. Having said that you've done a blinding job at covering them up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Sanded the surface to add a few faded areas then the wash is applied. Still a bit more to do to the paint job but must reframe from going too far in this scale. Its hard to tell in this photo but I painted the pylons white. I noticed that on early films of the Phantom that they looked white. Any opinion on that? The rear areas next. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 1 hour ago, 71chally said: Rich is correct, the RAF FG.1s retained the cat hooks etc. Having said that you've done a blinding job at covering them up! Yes hands up, sorry! I should have asked the question. It was a pain in the bum to hide them. Talk about creating work for myself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Lord Riot said: The green looks perfect, is it Tamiya XF-81? No its a mixed colour slightly darker than XF-81. I messed around with different shades of both grey and green on a test piece until I found one that looked near enough when dried. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 hours ago, RichG said: Strictly speaking I think the cat hooks should be there on the FG.1 (Royal Navy or RAF) - like the nose legs and slotted tail planes they were retained by the RAF aircraft. Yes my mistake. I'm not digging them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Gondor44 said: What did you do with the holes for the catapult strops? Did you use plastic card to fill the area or did you fill around the strop hooks supplied in the kit or as a third option, am I simply haveing difficulty seeing them in your pictures? Gondor Don't fill them in! I'm stupid and did. And just to answer your question, I added the hooks and filled them in with green putty. Nightmare job getting them to look seamless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, DenPhill said: Yes my mistake. I'm not digging them out. ... sorry . I meant to add its a cracking build. 43 Squadron? What roundels will you be putting her in red/blue tactical or old school red/white/blue? I've a soft spot for the original style - going to go for this myself. Rich Edited February 18, 2018 by RichG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 35 minutes ago, DenPhill said: Its hard to tell in this photo but I painted the pylons white. I noticed that on early films of the Phantom that they looked white. Any opinion on that? Not something I've ever really noticed before, but now you mention it looking at photos of early camoflaged aircraft the pylons do seem lighter/brighter than the LAG undersides and whilst it could be a trick of the light they do look white; possibly a consequence of their Royal Navy heritage the pylons were all delivered in white. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Mee Likee! -d- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 The very early FGR.2s certainly had white under wing pylons and tanks, maybe the same for FG.1s? These 54 Sqn Phantoms are good examples. http://www.thephantomshrine.co.uk/raf54/54.htm Like Rich I think this was an issue with supplying aircraft to the Royal Navy as well, like the Navy FG.1s being finished in Dark Sea Grey and a pair in camo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 On 18/02/2018 at 4:38 PM, RichG said: ... sorry . I meant to add its a cracking build. 43 Squadron? What roundels will you be putting her in red/blue tactical or old school red/white/blue? I've a soft spot for the original style - going to go for this myself. Rich Yes 43 Squadron. Not sure yet the old school looks good, but I'll have to source some slanted fin flashes first. Will have to make a decision very soon. Images from Aircraft Illustrated 1973. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, DenPhill said: Yes 43 Squadron. Not sure yet the old school looks good, but I'll have to source some slanted fin flashes first. Will have to make a decision very soon You're in luck - Xtradecal have just released a new set for the Phantom FG.1 / FGR.2 (Part 4!). It includes the 43 Sqn markings from 1970 (including the slanted fin flash). https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72293 - talk about just in time Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Great info about the strop hooks and extendable leg being kept by the RAF. Did the FG.1's of 43 Sqn ever get the strengthening plates under the wings at all? Sorry for hi-jacking the thread but it is kind or related Gondor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC1966 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 3 hours ago, DenPhill said: Yes 43 Squadron. Not sure yet the old school looks good, but I'll have to source some slanted fin flashes first. Will have to make a decision very soon. Images from Aircraft Illustrated 1973. DenPhill, you do realise it is illegal in some parts of the world to display only small areas of Phantom pictures. I demand full reveal !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 19/02/2018 at 10:45 PM, PLC1966 said: DenPhill, you do realise it is illegal in some parts of the world to display only small areas of Phantom pictures. I demand full reveal !! Sorry I'm just a tease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm in limbo at the moment, waiting for the RAF stencil decals from Hannants. The rear exhausts are not 100% accurate in shape, real ones taper slightly. But until someone comes out with a resin replacement these will have to do. The etched ladders made up and are a real treat. These will be painting yellow instead of the dark green, just to add some contrast to the Phantom. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 On 19/02/2018 at 10:16 PM, RichG said: You're in luck - Xtradecal have just released a new set for the Phantom FG.1 / FGR.2 (Part 4!). It includes the 43 Sqn markings from 1970 (including the slanted fin flash). https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/X72293 - talk about just in time Rich I've had the RAF service part one decals for some time now, before I got the kit, with the later style roundel for No.43 Squadron. I bought a second sheet with 41 Squadron on, again later roundels. So I'm not buying any more, without the wrath of her indoors upon me. I'm in two minds at the moment 43 or 41?. I've just ordered the RAF stencils from Hannants, forgot that some of these stencils would be different from the Navy's. I've noticed the sheet comes with walkways. But looking at most photos these aren't present on the early RAF Phantoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichG Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, DenPhill said: I've had the RAF service part one decals for some time now, before I got the kit, with the later style roundel for No.43 Squadron. I bought a second sheet with 41 Squadron on, again later roundels. So I'm not buying any more, without the wrath of her indoors upon me. I'm in two minds at the moment 43 or 41?. Well of course it should probably be 43 (41 was an FGR.2 equipped unit) particularly after your deliciously painted slotted stabilators, a distinguishing feature of the FG.1. You could always try painting the slanted fin flash of 43. The stripes seem to be parallel - just a bit of careful masking - your masking elsewhere looks great. By the way, phabulous pholding of those PE ladders - they look absolutely gorgeous . What's their fit on the aircraft like? Rich Edited February 21, 2018 by RichG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 The ladders and exhausts have turned out a real treat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Thanks Airfix, I'm a little short somewhere. And for RichG. Not bad. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Those ladders look really great. As for the white pylons, according to the Double Ugly RAF/RN Phantom books these were indeed delivered in Gloss White. Later on they were repainted Light Aircraft Grey during depot maintenance. Cheers, Andre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 The work on those canopies looks so clean and precise, you wouldn't think that they are 72nd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 The Xtradecals RAF stencils turned up yesterday, which meant that I could get this Phantom finished. Just a word of advise, its up to you, I'd use as many of the Airfix stencils as possible. The Xtradecals numbering on the sheet for the under surface decals threw me big time, numbering doesn't match up with the decal sheet. And as you can see there is a slip in registration, this decal will have to come off, will use the Airfix one. Xtradecals Squadron insignia sheets are spot on though. I'll finish this Phantom today and will try to post some final photos late today, if not tomorrow. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPhill Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Well I'm calling this one done, hope you like her. The ladders really add something to the kit which has its faults, but then again so do my models. I'm glad its finished my interest was starting to wane its my age you know, 54 this year. 44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 That’s a model to e proud of. Well done! Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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