BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Don't start me talking - I could talk all night My mind goes sleepwalking - While I'm putting the world to right Called careers information - Have you got yourself an occupation? Oliver's army is here to stay Oliver's army are on their way And I would rather be anywhere else But here today There was a checkpoint Charlie - He didn't crack a smile But it's no laughing party - When you've been on the murder mile Only takes one itchy trigger… Go on – admit it – your singing along already… So where do we start and who do we blame for this latest escapade into the world of tiny tanks? Was it @badger for getting me interested in AFV’s in the first place? Was it ALDI for putting an offer on these bad boys for £4.99 each? Was it @Lawzer for building one and then teasing me with the pictures of his triumph? Was it the PLASTIC SOLDIER COMPANY for luring me into the belief that these things are ‘easy and fast’ to put together? Anyway – let’s not apportion blame - until things start to go wrong of course… So let’s get going shall we and what better way to start than with the ‘box’ shot… ...well 3 boxes to be accurate... ...as usual I'm sure to have lots of questions along the way and as this is my first 'real AFV' kit(s) I'm sure to need some expert help - so I hope a few folk will tag along and keep my spirits up when it all goes pear shaped. More updates after tea - Steve 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawzer Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Don't blame me guvnor - big boys told me to do it....😂 I'll be watchind the build with interest - thrice the fun for your money! like i said the only real issue were the rear sprockets. Oh, the the machine gun (not the one on the turret - the other one) on MANY occasions looked like it was going to break off. since it was such a small subject i brush painted using the tinlets supplied. Seemed to go on ok.... i'm still checking my aldi's now - just in case they find another one through the back...... Edited January 28, 2018 by Lawzer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Aye up Steve. Nice to see you back again with more armour. Will watch with interest to see what you do with these Regards, Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 At a whopping 91 parts per kit and considering it can take me a month to complete a ‘fast build’ PSC kit with around 20 parts max – this could take a while… My maths says that with 273 pieces and with my rate of work that comes out at around 13 months – I will however endeavour to be a ‘little quicker’ than that. I am hoping that building all 3 at once has a ‘speeding’ effect. Last year I tried building 2 BF109’s at the same time and learned a few lessons along the way. The fun bits were ‘twice the fun’ – but the boring bits really ‘dragged’. I also learned how to make the same mistake twice. For anyone not familiar with the kit – here is what you get in the box… …remember these are ‘starter kits’ – but I won’t be using the paint or glue – though an extra paintbrush always comes in handy. Considering the ‘starter’ designation I was perhaps imagining something less complex – like the Spitfire I did last year – that had just 36 parts…. …and when you put everything on the bench it all looks a little ‘busy’. Following a tip off from my chief tormentor - I have been looking at the sprues for a few days and I have a couple of concerns that he highlighted for me. Firstly there are the rear sprockets… ...a few holes that need drilling out - but nothing too major - until you turn them over... ARRGGGHHHH!!!!! Flash City!!! ...and sprue gates welded onto the parts. …these look like they will need quite a bit of work to get them looking presentable. Then there is that front machine gun – which @Lawzer tipped me off about too. A quick look at it has confirmed that the slightest touch bends it wildly. I may have a solution – up in the loft – but we will worry about that when the time comes. Time to clear the decks and get building I think – or we could be here until Christmas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalkeEins Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 built one of these a while ago. It goes together quite quickly. Stalled though at the painting stage as I know very little about painting braille scale AFVs..looking forward to seeing you finish these.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 One round less for this ***** ****** Chorus, Hong Kong is up for grabs....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, FalkeEins said: built one of these a while ago. It goes together quite quickly. Stalled though at the painting stage as I know very little about painting braille scale AFVs..looking forward to seeing you finish these.. The instructions seem clear and simple enough - I just need to figure a plan for painting and then assembling the sub assemblies - I'll figure it out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Cromwells Looking forward to seeing how you go with these. I may have mentioned it's my favourite WW2 British tank (not for any particular reason to be honest), and second only to the Chieftain in being my all time favourite! Always wanted a kit of it when I was a kid but no-one made one in plastic and I hadn't discovered resin / metal at that point. I had to wait until I got back into modelling after uni when Revell released their kit before I finally got my wish granted. All the best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, badger said: I may have mentioned it's my favourite WW2 British tank ...no pressure there then... I promise I'll do my best In the run up to this build I took your advice and ordered 3 of these on Friday... ...I hope my work is good enough to justify them by the time they arrive next week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Totally worth a few £ not to have to clean up the seam along the gun barrel (I always find I end up making it an oval shape!) as well as not having to drill out the muzzle brake. I use them on all my builds if I can get them. RB are my preferred choice as they're a lot cheaper than Aber but as good quality. Just ordered a catering sized popcorn and settling in to watch your progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, badger said: Totally worth a few £ not to have to clean up the seam along the gun barrel (I always find I end up making it an oval shape!) as well as not having to drill out the muzzle brake. I use them on all my builds if I can get them. RB are my preferred choice as they're a lot cheaper than Aber but as good quality. Just ordered a catering sized popcorn and settling in to watch your progress OH NO - Not the £2 ASDA - 'stuff til yer chuck' popcorn bucket The muzzle break isn't solid on this kit though - it comes in 2 halves - but I have already broken one just looking at it - good job I ordered these - thanks for the tip mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Hi Steve. I made one of these three years ago - it was one of my early armour builds and I have to say it was a joy to build. As I brush paint I had to work our the stages for the sub-assemblies so my WIP thread might be useful. I also built the same kit in the Starter Set GB two years ago using only the glue, brush and paints provided in the set plus basic tools. Bit more of a challenge but still fun. Second time around I removed the central seam down the middle of the tracks. HTH. Kind regards, Stix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, BIG X said: OH NO - Not the £2 ASDA - 'stuff til yer chuck' popcorn bucket Sadly not - down around these parts its the £20 Waitrose "pure jersey butter with salted caramel, hand popped" variety!! And don't get me started on why no chippy down south does gravy on chips!!!, or breaded fish, or proper mushy peas!!! Ben (a proud northerner exiled to the south!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 OK – enough of the ‘blethering’ – time for some work… Let me proudly present the first 9 parts… …I like it when joins are easy to get to AND then totally invisible later in the build – it allows me to splash the glue on with great abandon. All that lovely glue inside ‘adds to the weight and gives a sense of realism to the build’ he says confidently… Next up another 6 pieces that form an outer layer for the suspension… Whilst these are drying I’ve identified another 6 pieces that can go on at this stage. The instructions would have me putting on the inside of the wheels at this point – but who reads instructions Back shortly - I'm just doing that blowing on the glue bit - you know - to make it dry faster me... no... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, PlaStix said: Hi Steve. I made one of these three years ago - it was one of my early armour builds and I have to say it was a joy to build. As I brush paint I had to work our the stages for the sub-assemblies so my WIP thread might be useful. I also built the same kit in the Starter Set GB two years ago using only the glue, brush and paints provided in the set plus basic tools. Bit more of a challenge but still fun. Second time around I removed the central seam down the middle of the tracks. HTH. Kind regards, Stix I'll take a look at the WIP now - I always need all the help I can get thanks Stix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, badger said: Sadly not - down around these parts its the £20 Waitrose "pure jersey butter with salted caramel, hand popped" variety!! And don't get me started on why no chippy down south does gravy on chips!!!, or breaded fish, or proper mushy peas!!! Ben (a proud northerner exiled to the south!) Waitrose eh - I saw one of those once... ...when I visited the big shiny city down the very long road So - go on then - whereabouts 'up north' were you dragged up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I'm originally from Stoke on Trent, spent 8 years in Derby then moved down to Surrey about 6 years ago when my wife got head hunted for a job she couldn't turn down. Other than the property prices and lack of gravy on chips (oh and Staffordshire oatcakes), it's not too bad to be honest. Oh and I'm less than 2 hours from Bovington tank museum !! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, BIG X said: but who reads instructions Not me! The kit I'm currently building doesn't actually have any (a rather squashed box dragon 1/72 T-34 missing instructions I picked up from ebay for £5 25 minutes ago, BIG X said: Back shortly - I'm just doing that blowing on the glue bit - you know - to make it dry faster me... no... That's why tamiya extra thin quick dry is awesome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Well the blowing worked – time for 6 more pieces – 3 for the front and 3 for the back… …these 3 also go on the back – now what did I do with that 3rd one… …and the 3 radiator grille thingies can go on too… WOW - that’s 27 pieces in one evening – that’s 2/3rds of a Spitfire – all since teatime - more blowing required and I think I've had enough for 1 night - 10% done though... You have to remember - when the fun stops - STOP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wow - that's some speedy progress! As a comparison I've stuck together 18 pieces on my T-34. Then again I did have to spend 15 mins finding a sprue I'd dropped out of the kit getting it off the shelf! (The box is very bashed) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatfingers Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Aye up Steve, Your 'cruising' along with these. Have em done in no time Regards Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnid Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, badger said: Sadly not - down around these parts its the £20 Waitrose "pure jersey butter with salted caramel, hand popped" variety!! And don't get me started on why no chippy down south does gravy on chips!!!, or breaded fish, or proper mushy peas!!! Ben (a proud northerner exiled to the south!) In Essex area fish an' chips cost £7.00,up here in North Warks, Pete's chippy £1.99 lol😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BIG X said: Waitrose eh - I saw one of those once... ...when I visited the big shiny city down the very long road Not my first choice tbh but it's over the road so ok for emergencies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Arachnid said: In Essex area fish an' chips cost £7.00,up here in North Warks, Pete's chippy £1.99 lol😁 Too true - last time I bothered it was £12 for two battered fish and one large chips! Remember when I first moved down here and asked for the usual breaded fish, chips and gravy and the bloke behind the counter looked at me as though I'd just spat on the floor!! Didn't even do mushy peas or curry sauce! Didn't go back to that one! Ben (who now has a craving for a bag of chips) 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG X Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, badger said: Too true - last time I bothered it was £12 for two battered fish and one large chips! Remember when I first moved down here and asked for the usual breaded fish, chips and gravy and the bloke behind the counter looked at me as though I'd just spat on the floor!! Didn't even do mushy peas or curry sauce! Didn't go back to that one! Ben (who now has a craving for a bag of chips) Best I can offer is a pie - pie. chips, peas and gravy - it a tray of course - with a fork 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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