Atom.uk Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I have some US aeroplanes, a P47 & P51, that I intend to complete as French AF and RAF. I intend to us Humbrol paints, but something slightly different for the areas on the wings and fuselage showing where the US markings have been covered. I am looking for something slightly lighter than the Neutral Grey and slightly darker than the Olive Drab. I do not want to mix colours. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Help & Support is for site related issues, so I've moved this to the Paint section of Tools & Tips where you should get a better audience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, Atom.uk said: I have some US aeroplanes, a P47 & P51, that I intend to complete as French AF and RAF. Check they were not actually delievred in the specific markings. Assuming you mean a French P-47 and an RAF P-51 I really suggest being specific of the airframes you wish to model, until very late in the war (some Mustang IV's are NMF) the RAF specfied camouflage, and as such Lend- lease types were delivered camouflaged with RAF markings factory applied. The actual colours vary, earlier they were US made version of British paint, later Equivalent colors, US paint shades that were accepatable to the British. I can't recall of USAAF Mustang being transferred, I'm sure a few were, but in general they were supplied direct to the RAF. EDIT - Same goes for P-47's in RAF service, though ones in SEAC may well have had RAF additions, ie Dark Earth added over the Olive Drab. French P-47's are different, but a look here http://www.frenchwings.net/combat/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=103 does not show obvious overpainting. In may cases aircraft were repainted before handover, there are photos of ex-RAF Spitfires having the RAF markings overpainted by the British, with standard paint colours, and Soviet stars applied. I appreciate this is not the answer to the question you asked, but maybe will let you avoid not mixing paint. If you do have a photo showing overpainted USAAF markings, then the basepaint is likely to be weathered, just find similar colours, I'd use a faded US OLive Drab, with darker fresh OD, but perhaps a lighter Gray, as the undersides tended not to fade, but get discolured. Again, try to work from photos, NOT profiles. If you want specfics on a scheme, ask in the WWII section. HTH T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom.uk Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Thank you, that is a very detailed reply. You are correct in your assumption ref the P-47 and P-51. The P-47 will be a bubble top variant, from late or just after the war, in Armee de l'Air markings. The P-47 will be the one used by Leonard Cheshire of 617 Squadron for target marking. I have decals for it from the xtradecal 617 Squadron set. My intention was to show where the US markings had been on the French P-47, I have not decided on the P-51 although I once read that some RAF aeroplanes used US colours rather than fully replace them. I think I was going to see how the French P-47 looked first. AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, Atom.uk said: My intention was to show where the US markings had been on the French P-47, I have not decided on the P-51 although I once read that some RAF aeroplanes used US colours rather than fully replace them. have a look through the gallery I linked for the French P-47's eg Bear in mind most bubble top P-47'sfor the USAAF were supplied in NMF, as late 43 they stopped the use of paint. So, were these ex USAAF, and if so,they may have been camouflaged at French request. There are serails visible on some so could ask. That is possibly the remains of a star bar on the intercooler door. also http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p47_19.html I think Cheshire's target marker P-51 was in standard RAF paint, as many B/C were in US made British spec paint, but in the earlier Temperate Land Scheme, and then repainted in Day Fighter Scheme. see here's the real plane pic is on photobucket, but shows with an embed fix. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom.uk Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Correction. That should read that Leonard Cheshire flew a P-51! Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom.uk Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Thank you HTH, again. AT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Atom.uk said: HTH HTH = Hope This Helps.... common forum abbreviation glad it was of use though cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapperastro Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Colourcoats enamels cover the US equivalent paints nicely for your P-51. I have done RAF and RAAF P-51's with their colours. Check out their colours on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie @ Sovereign Hobbies Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 16 hours ago, Troy Smith said: I like this one. I'm thinking it hasn't had much fresh Olive Drab painted on but instead many of the contrasts are the result of fairly optimistic masking and Mr Bean-esque spraying of new white markings. It would make for an interesting modelling exercise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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