RidgeRunner Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Hi all, Does any MIG expert out there have detailed images of this airbrake interior and housing? I’m trying build up a plasticard one for my 1/72 build. Thanks in advance. Martin Edited January 22, 2018 by RidgeRunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I checked the pictures I took at a one of these aircraft but unfortunately I have no detail of this area as the front airbrake was shut. There's something visible in this walkaround, but very little is visible inside the airbrake. Still, it's better than anything else I found http://www.tantopergioco.it/immagini/walkaround/walkaround-aerei-jet/nggallery/walkaround-aerei-jet/walkaround-mig-21um Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverkite Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Probably is very similar to the one used on Mig-21 F-13 as they shared the same fuselage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Silverkite said: Probably is very similar to the one used on Mig-21 F-13 as they shared the same fuselage Yes, maybe. so does anyone out there gave that? Any help really appreciated. Thanks a lot. Martin 7 hours ago, Giorgio N said: I checked the pictures I took at a one of these aircraft but unfortunately I have no detail of this area as the front airbrake was shut. There's something visible in this walkaround, but very little is visible inside the airbrake. Still, it's better than anything else I found http://www.tantopergioco.it/immagini/walkaround/walkaround-aerei-jet/nggallery/walkaround-aerei-jet/walkaround-mig-21um Thanks Giorgio. I'll take a look tomorrow. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, RidgeRunner said: Hi all, Does any MIG expert out there have detailed images of this airbrake interior and housing? I’m trying build up a plasticard one for my 1/72 build. Thanks in advance. Martin Martin, The OOP 4+ Publications monograph on the Mig-21 has some photos of the front and rear speedbrakes and wells, IIRC. The best photo reference I could find was a very detailed walkaround from IPMS Nederland that has several good closeup photos of the forward speedbrake, its actuator, and well. I hope they will give you what you need. Waiting and keeping my fingers crossed that Eduard will include the 2-seaters when they do their 1/72 Mig-21's. BTW, I am NO Mig expert! Mike https://www.ipms.nl/walkarounds/walkaround-vliegtuigen-jets/1444-walkaround-mig-21.html Edited January 18, 2018 by 72modeler added additional text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi Mike! thanks for the steer :). Much appreciated. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 A further question - how was the rear airbrake disabldd when carrying a centreline tank? I cant see how it could have been used. Any thoughts? thanks, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, RidgeRunner said: A further question - how was the rear airbrake disabldd when carrying a centreline tank? I cant see how it could have been used. Any thoughts? thanks, Martin Martin, See the link below; it appears that when the centerline store carried a fuel tank, the aft speedbrake was disabled; I'm just guessing here that if the pistons were hydraulic, there was a valve forward of the rear speedbrake that cut off hydraulic fluid going to it. Just spitballing here, as they say. Sure would be nice to have a new, state of the art Mig-21UM in 1/72 scale! Hope this link helps. Mike http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/kraft/mig1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Hi Mike, Thanks for this. I thought that may be the case. I just couldn't see how it could have been extended with any tank on that centreline pylon. A mystery (for me) solved! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I don't know if these will be helpful or not. It does look to be a very thin piece, but of course you can't see details other than that… https://postimg.cc/gallery/1s6v6h93g/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Don McIntyre said: I don't know if these will be helpful or not. It does look to be a very thin piece, but of course you can't see details other than that… https://postimg.cc/gallery/1s6v6h93g/ Nice photos, Don! I'm guessing the TN Aviation Museum in Sevierville? How is their UH-34D restoration coming along? I go there every time I visit my sister in Seymour. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 Hi Don, very thoughtful, thank you. I’ve searched the net and cant find any detail shots of these forward brakes, sadly. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AeroNautique Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Should anybody be interested - Just saw a cheap copy of Yefim Gordon's MiG-21 book for sale on eBay Germany, ships across the channel it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kari Lumppio Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Hello! For whatever it is worth. Not sure about UM, but at least with MiG-21 BIS (produkt 75B) you had to pull a T-handle and then pry the forward speedbrake open for service. If the speedbrake hangs out wihtout the said process it is broken. Not saying that you should not model the brake open. Cheers, Kari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgeRunner Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Thanks Kari! That's my dream shattered! Actually I've seen shots of MIG-21bis and MIG-21MF with the forward brakes open and they were very alive! The rear brake in all if often seen part or fully opened on the ground. The is still hope ......... Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) On 1/24/2018 at 10:11 AM, 72modeler said: Nice photos, Don! I'm guessing the TN Aviation Museum in Sevierville? How is their UH-34D restoration coming along? I go there every time I visit my sister in Seymour. Mike Yep, that's the one. I think their H-34 is finished. It's in SVNAF markings (well it was when I was there about three years ago)… Edited February 16, 2018 by Don McIntyre Correct links for photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Don McIntyre said: Yep, that's the one. I think their H-34 is finished. It's in SVNAF markings (well it was when I was there about three years ago)… That's the one! Thanks for the photos, Don. As I recall, there were several sheet metal patches on the fuselage to repair hits from ground fire- a real veteran! I'm glad they put her in SVN markings as a tribute to all of those brave aircrew and maintainers- they were a proud bunch and aggressive fliers! Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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