Valkyrie Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yes, first EVER Spitfire build. Eduard 1/72 Czech Squadron. With so many to pick from I loved the look of this. Tricky kit to get to this stage but great shape, lovely panel lines, finely engineered like the real thing...and although I love invasion stripes, this is my first attempt at painting them rather than decal. Not perfect but best I could do with my begginer skills. How to you get these stripes even and uniform? Thanks for stopping by... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Valkyrie said: Yes, first EVER Spitfire build. Eduard 1/72 Czech Squadron. With so many to pick from I loved the look of this. Tricky kit to get to this stage but great shape, lovely panel lines, finely engineered like the real thing...and although I love invasion stripes, this is my first attempt at painting them rather than decal. Not perfect but best I could do with my begginer skills. How to you get these stripes even and uniform? Thanks for stopping by... Although I have about 10 Eduard Spitfires in the stash, I haven't made one yet but it does look complicated in the box. Regarding invasion stripes, I would: 1) paint the area white with a spray can 2) use tape of the appropriate width to mask the white stripes 3) paint the black stripes I hope it won't be your last Spitfire. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Beard said: Although I have about 10 Eduard Spitfires in the stash, I haven't made one yet but it does look complicated in the box. Regarding invasion stripes, I would: 1) paint the area white with a spray can 2) use tape of the appropriate width to mask the white stripes 3) paint the black stripes I hope it won't be your last Spitfire. Thanks Beard, I am glad you looked in as your spitfire marathon kick started me to get this on the go. Thanks for the pointers, I will give that a shot on my next Spitfire. The Eduard kit is brilliant, just not straight forward, great cockpit. I might try a 1/48 spit too 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsairfoxfouruncle Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Thats pretty much the best way i can think of to do Invasion Stripes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Eduard kits always look brilliant in the box but they are somewhat unforgiving. I've only built the 1/48 Spitfires (so far; I have the 1/72 Royal boxing to build) but most Eduard kits really require great care in positioning parts. I made a boo-boo on their 1/72 MiG-15 cockpit recently and it resulted in a chunky old gap on the fuselage. The invasion stripes look good to me; but the mask and re-mask method Beard gives is absolutely the way to go for super-neat lines. Just remember to measure each strip twice as any differences in width will be surprisingly noticeable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, amblypygid said: Just remember to measure each strip twice as any differences in width will be surprisingly noticeable. I think invasion stripes on fighters were 18 inches wide. By my calculations, which may be wrong as I only have a CSE in Maths, that'd be 6.34 mm. I'm lazy and use 6 mm Tamiya tape. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, amblypygid said: Eduard kits always look brilliant in the box but they are somewhat unforgiving. I've only built the 1/48 Spitfires (so far; I have the 1/72 Royal boxing to build) but most Eduard kits really require great care in positioning parts. I made a boo-boo on their 1/72 MiG-15 cockpit recently and it resulted in a chunky old gap on the fuselage. The invasion stripes look good to me; but the mask and re-mask method Beard gives is absolutely the way to go for super-neat lines. Just remember to measure each strip twice as any differences in width will be surprisingly noticeable. Glad it’s not just me then, my only other Eduard was the MiG-15 and I errored in the cockpit too, nice kits when finished but unforgiving is great description. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Beard said: I think invasion stripes on fighters were 18 inches wide. By my calculations, which may be wrong as I only have a CSE in Maths, that'd be 6.34 mm. I'm lazy and use 6 mm Tamiya tape. Me too. I haven't got round to getting hold of 1/4" tape, which would be spot on. Assuming my maths is correct... John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, johnd said: Me too. I haven't got round to getting hold of 1/4" tape, which would be spot on. Assuming my maths is correct... John. My calculations agree with yours. Just had a look for .25" tape, it's available on Amazon: around £4 for a 60 m (as we shouldn't mix metric and imperial, that's about 196'). I think I might order some, I'd never need to buy masking tape again! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Beard said: Just had a look for .25" tape, it's available on Amazon I don't suppose they do 0.33" for multi-engined aircraft? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, johnd said: I don't suppose they do 0.33" for multi-engined aircraft? No (but I suspect you knew the answer before you asked the question). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Beard said: No (but I suspect you knew the answer before you asked the question). Yes, it would have been too good to be true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amblypygid Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Is this the point where it's worth reminding one to check references? There are plenty of photos of invasion stripes that were not neatly applied, as can be seen here: http://spitfiresite.com/2007/12/painting-d-day-stripes-june-5th-1944.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, amblypygid said: Is this the point where it's worth reminding one to check references? There are plenty of photos of invasion stripes that were not neatly applied, as can be seen here: http://spitfiresite.com/2007/12/painting-d-day-stripes-june-5th-1944.html Absolutely. The ones applied for D-Day itself were apparently applied with yard brooms and all sorts of improvised implements. Bit of a rush job. John. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 That’s a good photo, looks a bit like mine, I do like the stripes uniform in form and width too though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) I’m on my second Eduard 1/72 Spitfire. They’re much easier and quicker than all the others I’ve done from Airfix, AZ, Frog etc. Everything fits together nicely - use only liquid cement. The best option for me would be profi-minus or weekend-plus, ie lots of decals, masks but forget all the PE apart from the belts! cheers Will Edited January 18, 2018 by malpaso Recommend liquid cement 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fewr9fkr9595 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 15 hours ago, Valkyrie said: I might try a 1/48 spit too Go for it. Their 1/48 spits are awesome too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks for all the encouragement and help! A bit of decalling done and it’s really is beginning to look the part. Decals are very very nice. Y LD-O1RYUQ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share Posted January 18, 2018 19 hours ago, amblypygid said: Is this the point where it's worth reminding one to check references? There are plenty of photos of invasion stripes that were not neatly applied, as can be seen here: http://spitfiresite.com/2007/12/painting-d-day-stripes-june-5th-1944.html I was looking at the instruction sheet again today and the paint guide has the fuselage bands uneven and crooked in parts, so I based mine on that ha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 You can’t fault the finite detail in this kit but here is an example of over complicated assembly. Fine for experienced modellers but for a weekend kit for a relative beginner I feel 6 parts per landing gear is a bit fiddly and unnecessary, but not moaning... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 That's looking great Valkyrie! I agree that this kit is a little complex, but the fit is so good that it's not too much of a problem: the cockpit and wheel wells in particular surprised me with how well everything went together despite having so many parts. I wouldn't change your Invasion Stripe technique at all, they look just like the 'first day' type. You may want to use the 1/4" tape for the later 'summer' applied type. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 12:07 PM, Valkyrie said: Thanks for all the encouragement and help! A bit of decalling done and it’s really is beginning to look the part. Decals are very very nice. I think your stripes are fine. Looking forward to the finished result. The only thing I'd watch out for on future builds is making sure there's no dihedral on the tailplanes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Cookenbacher said: That's looking great Valkyrie! I agree that this kit is a little complex, but the fit is so good that it's not too much of a problem: the cockpit and wheel wells in particular surprised me with how well everything went together despite having so many parts. I wouldn't change your Invasion Stripe technique at all, they look just like the 'first day' type. You may want to use the 1/4" tape for the later 'summer' applied type. I am going to invest in this tape as I’m going to definitely be making this again AND I do love an invasion striped bird...what am I looking for and where will I get it? Tamiya stuff? Thanks for the comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, JosephLalor said: I think your stripes are fine. Looking forward to the finished result. The only thing I'd watch out for on future builds is making sure there's no dihedral on the tailplanes. Thanks! They could be neater I suppose but they will do. I hadn’t noticed the tailplanes, are they meant to be poker straight? I need to look properly at instructions. Thanks for that as i defo want to do more spits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephLalor Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Valkyrie said: Thanks! They could be neater I suppose but they will do. I hadn’t noticed the tailplanes, are they meant to be poker straight? I need to look properly at instructions. Thanks for that as i defo want to do more spits... For aircraft such as the Spitfire and the Mustang that would be the case. Keep the Spits coming, I'll always take a look. It's high time I finished one myself! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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