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Max Headroom

A Cheat’s Way to a 1/72 Spitfire Vc

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@CedB

 

No need to be in the back there’s plenty of room at the front! ;)

 

Trevor

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Just a quick update tonight.

 

I have given the upper wings a waft of primer to see how things look. 

 

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I think it is fair to say that this is “work in progress”. Covering the wings with primer now gives me a better idea of the state of things. I think the port wing is the least worst of the two! As suspected the new gun hatch on that wing needs rescribing. 

 

Overall though, the result is encouraging. Another session to rescribe the new panel lines and to hide some of the old ones is in order.

 

More soon!

 

Trevor

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It seems my modelling is mostly at weekends.

 

So, whilst waiting for BM@10 groupbuild to start, I am back on this one. I have also found my P Cutter which has helped a lot.

 

I have mostly been tidying up the wings and at present here are the uppers

 

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and I have also started on the underwing too, courtesy of the drawings by Vasco Babic

 

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Don't know about you, but I always find it a bit confusing when rescribing and lose my track as to what I need to keep and what is new. It will all become much clearer when I blow some more primer over it.

 

Now to cover up the surplus holes in the leading edge and to attach the wing to the fuselage.

 

More soon!

 

Trevor

 

 

 

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Nice work Trevor, I'm looking forward to seeing what's next.

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Thanks Beard......so am I!

 

I am now turning my attention to markings. I picked this book up last year in a rather good bargain book shop in Llandudno.

 

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Inside I think I may have found my subject here.

 

There is a photo of EE721 DU*E in service with 312 Squadron. There is a view from above/behind which shows it to have fishtail exhausts (I have robbed my Hurricane spares box), original unmodified tailplane, no stub/plug outboard of the cannon fairing and perhaps most interesting of all, spanwise upper wing wing reinforcement over the wheel well but only on the port wing! Although not shown in the photo, it is also described as being clipped wing too.

 

Off to raid the transfers stash!

 

Trevor 

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Do you mean chordwise wing reinforcement?  They were intended for the A/B wing, but seem to have ended up on a few examples of the C wing - Shuttleworth's existing one is an example.

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@Graham Boak I was struggling for the correct name - thanks!

 

This is the port wing from the IWM Ia.

 

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For comparison, here is the Airfix Vc I started and abandoned *cough-rubbish*! Marvel at the balloon-like qualities of that wing.....

 

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It does however serve as a useful 3D template for the wings. I see a couple of teardrop shaped blisters that need adding. I will check from the AZ sprues if there is anything there. If not, I will use PVA glue and a pin.

 

The next thing to think of is the canopy. The kit one with the external armour is not appropriate so spares box here we come.

 

This is the one from Italeri

 

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A lot of work would be needed there......

 

This is the canopy from the horrid Airfix Vc

 

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Thick and optically distorted, to me the windscreen rake is also far too shallow.

 

Next, I think this is the closed canopy option from the Academy XIV

 

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The canopy is a better fit (worryingly?). For those who are unaware, the Academy XIV whilst looking good (and is an easy build) has a bloated midriff problem. Here is my XIV on the right with  the Airfix XIX on the left for comparison.

 

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I am minded to use the windscreen off this purely for fit purposes and to use the Italeri canopy in the open position and rear segment. Any opinions?

 

Next is the oil cooler. I have one from an Airfix Vb scrapper. If you compare this to the one offered by Italeri, this looks to be less chunky and more to scale.

 

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Since taking this photo, the recess in the kit wing has been slathered with Green Stuff. This will be smoothed over and the cooler stuck down with superglue.

 

I may do some sanding later, otherwise no more modelling today.

 

Thanks for looking.

 

Trevor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Max Headroom said:

 

I am minded to use the windscreen off this purely for fit purposes and to use the Italeri canopy in the open position and re

What about sanding the external armoured glass off the kits canopy and the polishing? 

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I don’t think it’s that simple. The windscreen was more raked forward and the side panels wider as a result. 

 

External armour

 

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Internet photo

 

Internal armour 

 

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Wikipedia photo

 

.......or is it just me?

 

EDIT

 

Here is a diagram from Hyperscale

 

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Still a bit unsure......

Trevor

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I’m tying myself in knots here about the side panel in the windscreen, but I think these side views in the Aeroguide I linked on the first page have nailed it.

 

http://www.boxartden.com/gallery/index.php/Profiles/Aeroguide/Classics-01-Supermarine/Classics-1-Supermarine-Spitfire-34-960

 

They are different, so it’s either the Academy one sanded flat on the sides, or I’m looking at some surgery on the Italeri one......

 

Trevor

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Great stuff Trevor, I'm sure you'll nail it... :)

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53 minutes ago, Max Headroom said:

I’m tying myself in knots here about the side panel in the windscreen... They are different.

 

 

Yes, the original had curved sides, the newer version was all flat panes (except that little bit across the top).  It was even a trifle taller, requiring a different hood, though that may not be evident on a model (with the hood slid back).  I believe that it also has (in the shot I just found online) a balloon hood, with bulging sides.  This was introduced shortly after the Mk.IX started, which is before your subject was built.  (The earlier hood had the domed top, of course, but more-or-less flat sides.)

 

bob

 

p.s. Yes, those photos of the Airfix Vc remind me of why I sold it on, despite being a hoarder of all things Spitfire.  Not exactly their finest hour...

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Another update.

 

As you see above the windscreen fitting is a bit haphazard. After thinking about it, I decided to not to go with the Academy item. I know it’s too wide and although an easy cop-out, it would annoy me every time I looked at it. So that leaves me with the Italeri one. Advantages are that it’s the right size and it’s nice and thin so I can show the canopy open, an option not offered by Airfix. However it doesn’t fit. The problem lies with the base of the windscreen opening which is curved to match the transparency. So, out with the micro strip and a bit of deft slicing. Glue the mating surface on the kit and place the sliver of plastic carefully using tweezers. (I bought a set from Hobbycraft for not much recently and they are a lifesaver!).

 

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This is the result.

 

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And then blended in with Greenstuff. You can also see I’ve redrilled the new position for the .303 aperture. I haven’t done the 20mm cannon hole yet.

 

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Next thing to do was to retry the canopy. I temporarily fixed it with RevellContacta Clear.

 

It still doesn’t fit

 

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But that’s ok because I aim to blend in the bottom of the canopy with thin plastic card in a way similar to the 1:1 version like this, (that could be an VIII judging by the kill markings.

 

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That’s all for now. I’m off to start my Meteor PR.10.

 

Trevor

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Great work Trevor - you're really making this thing happen.

 

I almost wish I hadn't seen all of this about the windscreen/canopy - I've been building away in blissful ignorance all this time!

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On 1/13/2018 at 12:43 PM, Max Headroom said:

 

 

A couple more photos

 

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Trevor

 

 

 

Like to know what book those drawing are in or if l can get a set?

 

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31 minutes ago, hacker said:

Like to know what book those drawing are in or if l can get a set?

 

Hacker

@hacker PM inbound.

 

Trevor

 

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