The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) I have just cracked open the box, the blue on the decals (cheat line) look too dark for Olympic, anyone care to expound or elucidate? Thomo. Edited January 5, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Olympic did have a couple of schemes at least where the blue changed. I've seen a postcard where the blue was quite light. They also had a run in with the Olympic organisation over the Rings on the fin over copyright infringement. They either knocked a ring off or added one, can't remember. Haven't seen the one you have.. Got a link please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'm aware of the chromatic issues with film in the '60s (and probably before) that used lighten blue. The classic case is, of the Midland ('blue') Pullman which in a whole slew of photos (including pro shot ones) appears mid-blue. When in fact Nanking blue the colour it was painted in was quite dark in reality. Even taking that into account the Amodel decals look a tad dark to me, or have Amodel got it right? I fancy getting a cheap Airfix Comet of eBay to have a gander at thier decals. Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, bzn20 said: Got a link please? Thomo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 That does look dark but if you take BOAC blue..It was all over the place.. It could morph to almost black. Get AVTUR on it and it changed, call it weathering, Rainbow shades after queueing behind Piston engine Douglas and Lockheed kites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 This is the dichotomy, I'm faced with when using period images as references: Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 hours ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: ... I fancy getting a cheap Airfix Comet of eBay to have a gander at thier decals. Thomo. Be aware that there is a 10mm difference in length between the Airfix kit and the Amodel version. I've never seen the Amodel kit but the difference in length is discussed in this earlier BM thread. Skippiebg's opinions are usually worth heeding and he seems to suggest that the whole kit is underscale. As I said, I have no personal experience of the Amodel kit but you may find that decals designed for other kits will not fit it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, Skodadriver said: Be aware that there is a 10mm difference in length between the Airfix kit and the Amodel version. Thanks, I'm aware of that. The Amodel kit is only underscale in fuselage length, it is 4C in length and is easy to correct - everything else is perfect for a 4B and is a quantum leap better than the Airfix kit. Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: Thanks, I'm aware of that. The Amodel kit is only underscale in fuselage length, it is 4C in length and is easy to correct - everything else is perfect for a 4B and is a quantum leap better than the Airfix kit. Thomo. Cheers Thomo. That's worth knowing when I run out of Airfix Comets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 My Dads got that Lincoln Imp on a Squadron Badge (piece of a/c Skin) off a scrapped Avro Lincoln he used to fly in, Flt Eng. Its hanging on his Garage wall ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, bzn20 said: My Dads got that Lincoln Imp on a Squadron Badge (piece of a/c Skin) off a scrapped Avro Lincoln he used to fly in, Flt Eng. Its hanging on his Garage wall ! My avatar is the club badge of LCFC, I'm not aware it was on any aeroplane as it was regarded as a sign of bad luck. Thomo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, The Tomohawk Kid said: My avatar is the club badge of LCFC, I'm not aware it was on any aeroplane as it was regarded as a sign of bad luck. My dad is with me right now, 90 this month.. He said.. Luck..Depends which Squadron you were on ! 61 Sqn was good enough for me and 55,57,60 etc. ! But football wise you are probably right ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixII Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Thomo, you've got to remember, odd lot in the 'Mob'! The Imp is a close relative of the Gremlin.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, bzn20 said: My Dads got that Lincoln Imp on a Squadron Badge (piece of a/c Skin) off a scrapped Avro Lincoln he used to fly in, Flt Eng. Its hanging on his Garage wall ! Taking this thread wildly off topic. The tradtional Imp as displayed in my avatar, has only returned to the Imps shirt in the last 18 months - a couple or decades back, an evengelical womens magazine ran a campaign to have LCFC to remove the Imp from the team shirts because it was an agent of the devil (which in mythology it is) after the club were involved in the Bradford fire and the David Longhurst incidents, also it is heavily featured in the horror film Brimstone and Treacle. The club regretfully bowed to the pressure eventually and replaced it with the City of Lincoln coat of arms. The Imp returned at the start of the 16/17 season and the club had it most succesful season in living memory. Right, lets get back to talking about Olympic Comet 4Bs. Thomo. Edited January 6, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I do like a sports fan's knowledge of their club's history. It's in the blood, just how it should be ! Nobody who saw it on live TV will ever forget the Bradford City fire. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Don’t forget that some of Olympic’s Comets made it to Channe Airways http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/4/4/9/1274944.jpg?v=v40 Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Max Headroom said: Don’t forget that some of Olympic’s Comets made it to Channe Airways http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/4/4/9/1274944.jpg?v=v40 Trevor Yes, like many family's in the early '70s I flew on an ex Olympic Comet to Spain, when in Channel stewardship. Thomo. Edited January 7, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, bzn20 said: I do like a sports fan's knowledge of their club's history. It's in the blood, just how it should be ! Nobody who saw it on live TV will ever forget the Bradford City fire. RIP The Stacey West (aka) the Railway end at Sincil Bank is named after two of the Imps fan that died that day. Sincil Bank is these days overlooked by the Bomber Command memorial that sits on top of Canwick hill, behind the ground. The Imps still come out to the Dambuster March on home match days. Thomo. Edited January 8, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundloop Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 05/01/2018 at 8:53 PM, The Tomohawk Kid said: Thanks, I'm aware of that. The Amodel kit is only underscale in fuselage length, it is 4C in length and is easy to correct - everything else is perfect for a 4B and is a quantum leap better than the Airfix kit. Thomo. The Amodel fuselage length is closest to the short fuselage Comet 4, the 4B (as used by Olympic) and the 4C both had the same lengthened fuselage as depicted by the fuselage in the Airfix kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) On 1/5/2018 at 2:57 PM, bzn20 said: Olympic did have a couple of schemes at least where the blue changed. I've seen a postcard where the blue was quite light. They also had a run in with the Olympic organisation over the Rings on the fin over copyright infringement. They either knocked a ring off or added one, can't remember. Haven't seen the one you have.. Got a link please? Not so I'm afraid as regards the Comet. The decal colour looks bang-on to me ' Navy Blue'. They had two schemes on the Comet, first with 'Olympic Airways' titles and later with just enlarged 'Olympic' titles, which also appeared on the wings (the decal gives you both options). The cheatline colour remained the same throughout. The postcard you refer to has been coloured in by an artist in anticipation of the livery change, which was never applied to the Comets. Edited February 11, 2018 by AMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, AMB said: blue was quite light Hi Adrian..The Lighter Blue I saw was on an early Olympic issued Comet postcard ,you might have it. I wasn't sure if it was a printing error or a proposed scheme that literally didn't take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMB Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, bzn20 said: Hi Adrian..The Lighter Blue I saw was on an early Olympic issued Comet postcard ,you might have it. I wasn't sure if it was a printing error or a proposed scheme that literally didn't take off. 2 minutes ago, bzn20 said: Hi Adrian..The Lighter Blue I saw was on an early Olympic issued Comet postcard ,you might have it. I wasn't sure if it was a printing error or a proposed scheme that literally didn't take off. That's the one - should be ignored for an accurate reference! Olympic later adopted a version of that scheme in the '80s, long after the Comets had gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, AMB said: should be ignored That's the reason I've never bid on one...Didn't like the look of it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomohawk Kid Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) On 11/02/2018 at 15:17, bzn20 said: Hi Adrian..The Lighter Blue I saw was on an early Olympic issued Comet postcard ,you might have it. I wasn't sure if it was a printing error or a proposed scheme that literally didn't take off. The photochromatic emulsions and inks used in '60s photos and prints are notoriously unreliable references, particularly with respect to blue. Thomo. Edited February 15, 2018 by The Tomohawk Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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